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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/19/2017 9:58:05 PM

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In the South Pacific, SS I-22 spots this TF off the coast of southern Australia. Where could they be headed and what could they be up to? The Salt Lake City, Honolulu, and Phoenix? Looks like the escort flotilla for a U.S. CV or two to these eyes.

Your subs seems to be everywhere. Can't remember an unescorted ship that made it to destination port.

Jajaja... I know the allied shipping lanes pretty well for someone who has never played as the allies.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/19/2017 10:02:39 PM

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Dutch medium bombers try their hand on a cover and screening SCTF in the Java Sea. The Java Sea swarms at the moment with Zeros, however.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 63,105

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 4 damaged
139WH-3: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Makassar at 63,105

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 7080.
Raid is overhead
Zuiho-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes

Yes... that is the Shokaku and Zuikaku in the Java Sea... just as the Japanese did historically.

I made a mistake on my CAP settings. I wanted layered CAP over the carriers, but placed only the higher altitude CAP on long range. Lesson learned.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/19/2017 10:07:44 PM

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So, I picked up a second game as the allies, against Tomamars (which in Spanish means "Take the Seas"). I liked the name. I will not be doing an AAR, since Japan is my first love, but I have been thinking about playing as the allies for some time. He wants a historical first turn... so this should be interesting. I have never played a historical first turn, but I imagine it will not be good for TF Z.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/19/2017 10:24:56 PM

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With some luck PoW or Repulse may survive.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/19/2017 10:42:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: 821Bobo

With some luck PoW or Repulse may survive.

You have no idea what I am watching right now... . It is the most amazing thing. I am watching the combat replay from Dec. 7th in my new game as the allies I will post sections of the combat report when I get it. 6 BBs sunk at Pearl... yes 6... and 6 DDs sunk at Pearl... and CLs... CAs hit with torpedos. The most amazing Pearl Harbor attack that I have ever seen.. and I have run about 70 Pearl attacks with all games and sandboxing the first turn.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/19/2017 11:09:30 PM

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Ok... Look at this, Bob... this is the combat report from my new game as the allies for the Pearl Harbor attack. Have you ever seen anything like? Has anyone?

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Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 51 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 68
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 126

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 12 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed by flak
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 9 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 52 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 4 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 22 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 4 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 48 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 7 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 91 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 15 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 12 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 41 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 2 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 10 damaged
O-47A: 2 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 23 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 8 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 6 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 33 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 5 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 8 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP St. Mihel
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dale, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AV Curtiss, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk
DM Montgomery
DM Pruitt
CL Helena, Bomb hits 2, on fire
BB California, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
AV Wright, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL Manini
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AM Vireo, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 4, on fire
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Torpedo hits 1
AM Grebe, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AV Tangier, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1
DD Helm, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Cassin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AR Medusa, Torpedo hits 1
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Castor, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
PC Reliance, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DMS Perry, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hull, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Bagley, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Case, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Litchfield, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Cummings, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Dewey, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Selfridge, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AD Whitney, Bomb hits 1
DD Aylwin, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CM Oglala, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Repair Shipyard hits 4
Airbase hits 36
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 89

For those counting at home, that is 60 torpedo hits from 70 Kates carrying torpedos and 64 bomb hits from 92 aircraft using bombs on the port. This is a 1 in a million attack... literally. Oh... and from the historical start... Repulse took 4 torpedoes. The great news is that PoW only took 2 torpedos and now constitutes the only allied capital ship in the Pacific Theater.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/19/2017 11:18:41 PM

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wow....

As an AFB my stomach got sick just looking at it

That is one heck of a start!

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/20/2017 6:33:00 AM

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Ok... Look at this, Bob... this is the combat report from my new game as the allies for the Pearl Harbor attack. Have you ever seen anything like? Has anyone?

Not really

But I was right with Force Z

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/20/2017 2:44:00 PM

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I may be ending my Passover break up

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/20/2017 2:51:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus

Jan. 25th. Recon showed that the allies had pulled their airforce back from Batavia to Buitenzorg. A squadron of Zeros was sent in. The sweep was undetected until the last minute and curiously, there were no allied aircraft airborne, but a dozen on standby.

Morning Air attack on Buitenzorg , at 48,99

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 24
P-40E Warhawk x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.21 Sqn RAAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.488 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
24th PG/17th PS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes

Why was it so good ?

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/20/2017 2:53:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus

Jan. 21st

After a two night bombing attempt at Oosthaven, which netted little, the allies try a daylight raid. Severe storms hamper the air activities of both sides. The raid is a bit uncoordinated and the first wing to arrive are unescorted bombers. Japanese CAP is likewise disorganized and slow to respond.

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Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 23
CW-22 Falcon x 9
L-212 x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb
8 x 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb
5 x 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb
9 x CW-22 Falcon bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
1 x 139WH-3 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 300 kg GP Bomb
2 x L-212 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 15 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Yamada Det S-1 with A6M2 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 11 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes

The second wave arrives with the escorts.

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Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 10
L-212 x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 1 destroyed
L-212: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x L-212 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 15 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Yamada Det S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 15 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes

Notice that the CAP was not even airborne owing to the storms.

This guy (Bobo) is terrificly aggressive and imaginative. I like it. British fighting spirit.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/20/2017 4:22:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus

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ORIGINAL: 821Bobo

With some luck PoW or Repulse may survive.

You have no idea what I am watching right now... . It is the most amazing thing. I am watching the combat replay from Dec. 7th in my new game as the allies I will post sections of the combat report when I get it. 6 BBs sunk at Pearl... yes 6... and 6 DDs sunk at Pearl... and CLs... CAs hit with torpedos. The most amazing Pearl Harbor attack that I have ever seen.. and I have run about 70 Pearl attacks with all games and sandboxing the first turn.

It's not really that bad as it might seam from the combat report, there is a lot FoW in this...
Btw this is not the best result I ever had, you should see one from last week in my previous failed game against pz501, PH was a burning wasteland after day one - no wonder he bailed on me...

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/20/2017 8:27:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

This guy (Bobo) is terrificly aggressive and imaginative. I like it. British fighting spirit.

I have tried to limit his opportunities to inflict losses on my forces to the best that I am able. Most every amphibious groups have had a SCTF lurking nearby, CV support, and under the cover of Nells/Betties. I also tried to the best of my ability to take away as many offensive weapons as I could as quickly as I could: such as the B-17s at Cagayan.

In my opinion, he has done a very good job of taking advantage of mistakes and oversights that I have made to hamper the Japanese advance and cause losses for my forces. He is aggressive and does run into trouble sometimes, but he also finds weak spots to exploit. That is the nature of aggressive play. It is always a gamble. I am inclined toward being aggressive myself, depending on circumstances.

What impresses me most about Bob is that he is aggressive without being entirely reckless. This is a fine line. He has lost little and always maintains an "exit" door for his naval forces.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 2:28:08 AM

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Jan. 28th

I did it again: left a group of bombers on target after the target had retreated or been destroyed. As a result, a fighter sweep in China went over the adjacent hex, while the bombers strayed into allied LRCAP and found an element of AVG.

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Morning Air attack on 1st Chinese Corps, at 85,43 , near Loyang

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 55
Ki-27b Nate x 20
Ki-51 Sonia x 3

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

The poor Nate pilots (and they are not the best that the IJA has) did a fine job of keeping AVG off the bombers. The next 2 waves were not so fortunate.

Morning Air attack on 96th Chinese Corps, at 85,43 , near Loyang

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 18

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 1st Chinese Corps, at 85,43 , near Loyang

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 9

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 2:31:12 AM

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In Indochina, 1st Sentai evens the score.

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Morning Air attack on 2nd RTA Division, at 58,57 (Pisanuloke)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Blenheim IV x 12
Buffalo I x 7
Hudson IIIa x 9
Hudson I x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed
Hudson IIIa: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 20th AA Regiment, at 58,57 (Pisanuloke)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Buffalo I x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

He has been bombing here and there with the British air force out of Burma. This was his first attack on this hex, and I expected that he may try this location next. So we each guess correctly with our CAP on the day.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 2:37:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: tomamars

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus

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ORIGINAL: 821Bobo

With some luck PoW or Repulse may survive.

You have no idea what I am watching right now... . It is the most amazing thing. I am watching the combat replay from Dec. 7th in my new game as the allies I will post sections of the combat report when I get it. 6 BBs sunk at Pearl... yes 6... and 6 DDs sunk at Pearl... and CLs... CAs hit with torpedos. The most amazing Pearl Harbor attack that I have ever seen.. and I have run about 70 Pearl attacks with all games and sandboxing the first turn.

It's not really that bad as it might seam from the combat report, there is a lot FoW in this...
Btw this is not the best result I ever had, you should see one from last week in my previous failed game against pz501, PH was a burning wasteland after day one - no wonder he bailed on me...

Unless you found some way for Kates to carry more than 1 torpedo or Vals to carry more than 1 bomb, this is the best result you could ever possibly hope to achieve in 1 million Pearl Harbor attacks... since every bomb and torpedo hit.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 9:55:30 AM

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I didn't play WitP for 2 years and made many blunders so far. You are giving me to much credit.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 12:41:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aurorus

In Indochina, 1st Sentai evens the score.

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Morning Air attack on 2nd RTA Division, at 58,57 (Pisanuloke)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Blenheim IV x 12
Buffalo I x 7
Hudson IIIa x 9
Hudson I x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed
Hudson IIIa: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 20th AA Regiment, at 58,57 (Pisanuloke)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Buffalo I x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

He has been bombing here and there with the British air force out of Burma. This was his first attack on this hex, and I expected that he may try this location next. So we each guess correctly with our CAP on the day.

more than evened.

but still, huh, doesn't he know you're there with the Oscars? Still, he undertakes such a big raid - and exacts results even!

wow

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 1:32:10 PM

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Except recon, from December 7th, there was zero(I mean the #

) Japanese air activity in Burma. I've been expecting his fighters to show up eventually in Burma but it is cat and mouse game. My other option was to sit idle on the ground.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 5:51:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aurorus

quote:

ORIGINAL: tomamars

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aurorus

quote:

ORIGINAL: 821Bobo

With some luck PoW or Repulse may survive.

You have no idea what I am watching right now... . It is the most amazing thing. I am watching the combat replay from Dec. 7th in my new game as the allies I will post sections of the combat report when I get it. 6 BBs sunk at Pearl... yes 6... and 6 DDs sunk at Pearl... and CLs... CAs hit with torpedos. The most amazing Pearl Harbor attack that I have ever seen.. and I have run about 70 Pearl attacks with all games and sandboxing the first turn.

It's not really that bad as it might seam from the combat report, there is a lot FoW in this...
Btw this is not the best result I ever had, you should see one from last week in my previous failed game against pz501, PH was a burning wasteland after day one - no wonder he bailed on me...

Unless you found some way for Kates to carry more than 1 torpedo or Vals to carry more than 1 bomb, this is the best result you could ever possibly hope to achieve in 1 million Pearl Harbor attacks... since every bomb and torpedo hit.

This is what I call TOTAL DEVASTATION on turn 1. Look at attachment.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 8:52:31 PM

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In Indochina, 1st Sentai evens the score.

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Morning Air attack on 2nd RTA Division, at 58,57 (Pisanuloke)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Blenheim IV x 12
Buffalo I x 7
Hudson IIIa x 9
Hudson I x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed
Hudson IIIa: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 20th AA Regiment, at 58,57 (Pisanuloke)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 6
Buffalo I x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

He has been bombing here and there with the British air force out of Burma. This was his first attack on this hex, and I expected that he may try this location next. So we each guess correctly with our CAP on the day.

more than evened.

but still, huh, doesn't he know you're there with the Oscars? Still, he undertakes such a big raid - and exacts results even!

wow

He has been probing northern Indochina with small bomber strikes: I think to clarify his recon reports and determine exactly what forces are there. His recon is showing troop concentrations, so I think he wants to know exactly what troops are there. His small bombing raids have revealed nothing but puppet units to this point.

e noticed that I forgot to check the detection level at Victoria Point and did not respond to his recon. So he was able to hit the airfield there with B17s during the 2-day stretch when I had bombers there without fighters. I think, though I may be wrong, that he was thinking that I would make the same mistake here. It is still early in the game, and we are still feeling out the tendencies of our opponent. BTW, the aviation support and the fighters arrived at this base the day the attack came, so the day before there were only ground troops here. It was a very well-devised "cap trap," if I do say so myself, but one should be careful about bragging. This game can humble anyone very quickly.

It is quickly becoming a very good chess match. Bob made a few mistakes early on. As he stated, he has not played for 2 years, but I can see that he is (re)learning all the nuances of the game very quickly: how effective bombing in clear terrain can be, for example, how to set altitude to his best advantage, how to arrange CAP and prevent losses to "bleeding" into adjacent hexes, and so forth. This promises to be a very good game.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 10:25:49 PM

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With some luck PoW or Repulse may survive.

You have no idea what I am watching right now... . It is the most amazing thing. I am watching the combat replay from Dec. 7th in my new game as the allies I will post sections of the combat report when I get it. 6 BBs sunk at Pearl... yes 6... and 6 DDs sunk at Pearl... and CLs... CAs hit with torpedos. The most amazing Pearl Harbor attack that I have ever seen.. and I have run about 70 Pearl attacks with all games and sandboxing the first turn.

It's not really that bad as it might seam from the combat report, there is a lot FoW in this...
Btw this is not the best result I ever had, you should see one from last week in my previous failed game against pz501, PH was a burning wasteland after day one - no wonder he bailed on me...

There is FoW, but as far as I know not in terms of the count of hits nor in terms of whether "on fire"/"heavy fires" or "heavy damage" (>50) is reported. Those are always accurate - i.e., you never see "heavy damage" in the combat report and then open the turn to find the ship has sub-50 damage in all categories. Likewise, if the combat report tells you a bomb or torpedo hit, then that bomb or torpedo did in fact hit. Whether it did any damage, well...that's another story.

As to the attack results here, I would be curious to see how many Kates carried 800kg and how many were carrying torpedoes. From the looks of it, there were not very many carrying bombs and a lot of them carrying torpedoes (judging by lots of torpedo hits relative to "normal", and fewer bomb hits relative to "normal").

Also, any magazine explosions?

Lastly... this is just an incentive to play the Allies properly in the first bit of the war, as now you will not be tempted to overextend with your meager forces because your meager forces are even more meager

. It is a blessing in disguise.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/21/2017 10:48:58 PM

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With some luck PoW or Repulse may survive.

You have no idea what I am watching right now... . It is the most amazing thing. I am watching the combat replay from Dec. 7th in my new game as the allies I will post sections of the combat report when I get it. 6 BBs sunk at Pearl... yes 6... and 6 DDs sunk at Pearl... and CLs... CAs hit with torpedos. The most amazing Pearl Harbor attack that I have ever seen.. and I have run about 70 Pearl attacks with all games and sandboxing the first turn.

It's not really that bad as it might seam from the combat report, there is a lot FoW in this...
Btw this is not the best result I ever had, you should see one from last week in my previous failed game against pz501, PH was a burning wasteland after day one - no wonder he bailed on me...

There is FoW, but as far as I know not in terms of the count of hits nor in terms of whether "on fire"/"heavy fires" or "heavy damage" (>50) is reported. Those are always accurate - i.e., you never see "heavy damage" in the combat report and then open the turn to find the ship has sub-50 damage in all categories. Likewise, if the combat report tells you a bomb or torpedo hit, then that bomb or torpedo did in fact hit. Whether it did any damage, well...that's another story.

As to the attack results here, I would be curious to see how many Kates carried 800kg and how many were carrying torpedoes. From the looks of it, there were not very many carrying bombs and a lot of them carrying torpedoes (judging by lots of torpedo hits relative to "normal", and fewer bomb hits relative to "normal").

Also, any magazine explosions?

Lastly... this is just an incentive to play the Allies properly in the first bit of the war, as now you will not be tempted to overextend with your meager forces because your meager forces are even more meager . It is a blessing in disguise.

Hit rate by the torpedoes was 61/70, huge. But I had no say in this, it's just the game settings, dec.7 surprise, historic first turn etc. Full auto. In my last, brief game it was similar if not even more brutal. It would be nice to know if someone else had similar results with those same settings...

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/26/2017 1:39:42 AM

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Jan. 29th.

The allied submarines are focusing mostly on shadowing and attempting to attack surface combat TFs and likely paths of troop movement. He has a number of subs stationed near Manila, for example, knowing that I will need to move some troops from Manila in the next few weeks. So with a large number of allied subs stationed near Japanese shipping concentrations, allied submarines find several targets.

Near Bangkok, they find a small TK convoy carrying oil to the refineries at Bangkok.

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Sub attack near Prachuap Khiri Khan at 55,64

Japanese Ships
TK San Pedro Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Mitu Maru
PB Fuji Maru #4

Allied Ships
SS KVIII

SS KVIII launches 2 torpedoes at TK San Pedro Maru
PB Fuji Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fuji Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fuji Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fuji Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fuji Maru #4 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Outside Manila, some small cargo ships. This encounter went poorly for the Seadragon.

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Sub attack near Bataan at 78,77

Japanese Ships
xAK Kotohira Maru
xAK Holland Maru
xAKL Bokuei Maru
PB Kaisho Maru

Allied Ships
SS Seadragon, hits 5

SS Seadragon launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kotohira Maru

The submarine war is heating up in earnest, and I have only a handful of escorts with the type 2 depth charges.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/26/2017 1:44:19 AM

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Daylight, and Japanese planes appear over Port Moresby: recon and a fighter sweep. This is the first sign of Japanese interest in Port Moresby. The crack Zero pilots, veterans of the Luzon campaign (some of whom have been through a Pete training class similar to the armies' Topsy training program) prove better than their allied counterparts.

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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,130

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 11 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

Bombers also struck Singapore as intermittent bombing continues there to obstruct the construction of fortifications. The bulk of the Japanese Malaysian army has mustered across the river from Singapore but has yet to cross the river. I have been using Sallies exclusively over Singapore to hold up better against the flak, but the damage and destroyed numbers are accumulating.

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/26/2017 1:47:14 AM

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In China, elements of 4 small Chinese corps cut off in the Chinese plain by the pincer movement on Nanyang hold off an SNLF dispatched to mop them up. The SNLF had to cross a river to initiate the attack, but my congregation of forces on Loyang opened up a supply path to these units briefly. I was surprised to see them in supply, and the SNLF paid the price.

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Ground combat at 89,48 (near Hwainan)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1459 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60

Defending force 1718 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 48

Japanese adjusted assault: 13

Allied adjusted defense: 12

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
349 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Nanking Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
51st Chinese Corps
69th Chinese Corps
Lusu War Area
89th Chinese Corps

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/26/2017 1:51:59 AM

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Jan. 30th.

The allied submarines find numerous targets near Manila and Bangkok, scoring a hit on a very nice cargo ship, carrying vehicles.

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Sub attack near Prachuap Khiri Khan at 55,64

Japanese Ships
xAK Seia Maru, Torpedo hits 1
SC Ch 20

Allied Ships
SS KVIII

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

What patrol boats and aerial search Japan can muster is out hunting the subs with some limited success. A Mary reports a bomb hit on a sub near Bangkok and these 1 rack PBs actually manage to score a few hits.

ASW attack near Kompong Trach at 55,73

Japanese Ships
PB Chitose Maru
PB Edo Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXI, hits 1

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ASW attack near Kompong Trach at 55,73

Japanese Ships
PB Edo Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXI, hits 1

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/26/2017 1:57:54 AM

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Nells follow up the fighter sweep with a raid on the Moresby airfield, but the P-40s have been mostly withdrawn. A CV group, SCTF, and amphibious TF appear at the southwest tip of the New Guinea coast, headed for Moresby... no doubt. I took a rather circuitous route to New Guinea, moving down behind the Solomons and then advancing west to avoid naval search and submarines, which seemed to be concentrated on the area just south of Rabaul. Bob saw the CVs a couple days ago near Rabaul, but then they moved off to the east along with the amphib group to lose detection. I would not say that the attack is a surprise, but it did seem to arrive suddenly: (an impression that I work hard in the early game to achieve).

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/26/2017 2:02:57 AM

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In the DEI, Bandjemasin falls as the Japanese forces approach Java.

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Ground combat at Bandjermasin (60,99)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1929 troops, 21 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 79

Defending force 456 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Japanese adjusted assault: 63

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 63 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bandjermasin !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
L-18 Lodestar: 2 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
465 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
1st Engineer Co
Sasebo 3rd SNLF

Defending units:
SE Borneo KNIL Battalion
Bandjermasin Base Force

In China, the Nanking Naval Guard is trashed by the Chinese units in a follow-up attack. Sallies were sent in support of the SNLF, but it faired badly regardless.

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Ground combat at 89,48 (near Hwainan)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1212 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Defending force 1120 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 19

Allied adjusted assault: 36

Japanese adjusted defense: 11

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
257 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
69th Chinese Corps
Lusu War Area
51st Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
Nanking Naval Guard Unit

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RE: Argentina vs. Slovakia (Aurorus against 821Bobo) - 4/26/2017 2:05:49 AM

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Jan. 31st and some Shiratsyu DDs put the old type 95 depth charges to good use as the submarine wars continue near Manila and Bangkok.

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Sub attack near Lubang at 78,78

Japanese Ships
xAP Horai Maru
DD Okikaze
xAP Hoten Maru
DD Yukaze
DD Akikaze

Allied Ships
SS Sailfish, hits 8

SS Sailfish launches 4 torpedoes at xAP Horai Maru

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