Aurorus
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I started a new game recently with a new opponent, who wanted a historical turn 1. I thought that this was a little odd, but I have never played with a historical turn 1, so I agreed. As I was watching the combat replay, I was amazed. It was the most incredible Pearl Harbor attack that I had ever seen in WiTP, and I have seen many of them, because I have played the AI numerous times and sandboxed opening moves for Japan many, many times. The allies scored 60 torpedo hits and 64 bomb hits on ships; sunk 7 of the 8 BBs; 6 DDs; 3 CLS; and heavily damaged all of the CAs. It was an almost impossible attack with hit rates of 85% on both bombs and torpedos, which is nigh impossible to achieve. The typical hit rate is about 50% or slightly less. I know, because I have seen the game simulate many Pearl strikes.
When I posted about this attack on the forum and how astonished I was at its success, my opponent replied that this was not as good as his previous attack on a different opponent. I know that these results are nearly impossible to achieve, so I became suspicious, when someone told me that they had achieved these results twice in a row. So, I set up a test. I saved a file as a historical first turn Japan that contained a very good Pearl Harbor result. Then I opened it several times, saved it again as 3 different allied players, and "returned" it to myself as the Japanese player. Then I ran the combat report for the three different games. What I found was this. The results were the exact same for each game. Since there was no input by the allied player, the combat result was predetermined based off the Japanese save. What this means is that a Japanese player, in a PBEM, with a "historical first turn" can start a game time and again, until he achieves results that he wants. Then send this file to any number of opponents and get the exact same first turn results in each game.
I have no "hard" evidence that my opponent cheated on this first turn. I have no doubt, however, that he did. I post this simply to advise everyone of this exploit. Below are the results of my first two tests. Remember these are two different games, both based off the same original Japanese save with a historical first turn.
Here is Test 1 of the Pearl Harbor Attack
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB California, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT-29, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DD Helm, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PT-23, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DM Preble, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Monaghan, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DMS Perry, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Dewey, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Chew, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Ralph Talbot, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Cummings, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAP St. Mihel, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, on fire
DD Dale, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Shaw, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Aylwin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
DM Tracy, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL St. Louis, Torpedo hits 1
DD Farragut, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Dolphin, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
Here is Test 2
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB California, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT-29, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DD Helm, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PT-23, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DM Preble, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Monaghan, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DMS Perry, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Dewey, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Chew, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Ralph Talbot, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Cummings, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAP St. Mihel, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, on fire
DD Dale, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Shaw, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Aylwin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
DM Tracy, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL St. Louis, Torpedo hits 1
DD Farragut, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Dolphin, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
Remember, these are from 2 completely different games, with 2 different allied "players," both based upon the same original Japanese save. The combat reports are identical in every detail. Anyone can verify my results for themselves. Simply save a game, with historical first turn "on" as Japan, and then open the file under 3 different saves as the allies. Reopen each allied file as the Japanese player and view the results. They will be identical.
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