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Vision in Generated Campaign.... - 5/20/2001 3:24:00 AM

murx

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I got a real hard problem, playing generated WWII Campaign as Germans I always get Vision ranges from 1 - 11 ! Very rarely I get 21, it is summertime - so why do I always get bad vision ? The real bug is when I have a sandstorm, then vision is 255 !!! Considering 8 of 24 hours as dark time vision should be 2/3 of the time at one kilometer and up at least, not only 5% as it is right now. murx

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- 5/20/2001 6:04:00 AM

Del

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As was pointed out to me, visibility is randomly chosen and has nothing to do with the games current weather conditions. Seems to me it shouldn't have been too hard to correlate vision with weather. *shrugs* Go figure. :rolleyes:

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- 5/20/2001 6:28:00 AM

Mikimoto

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Originally posted by Del: As was pointed out to me, visibility is randomly chosen and has nothing to do with the games current weather conditions. Seems to me it shouldn't have been too hard to correlate vision with weather. *shrugs* Go figure. :rolleyes:

Hello. I thinked that this corrected that matter: 99) Improve and added more detail to the weather routines. Dont corrected anyway?

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- 5/20/2001 7:29:00 AM

Mike Wood

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Hello... Yes, in version 5.1, we correlated the weather, time of day and visibility. So, on a perfect day at noon, the maximum visibility is 44 hexes. It is reduced by time of day or night, the season and the weather.

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Originally posted by Mikimoto: Hello. I thinked that this corrected that matter: 99) Improve and added more detail to the weather routines. Dont corrected anyway?

If anyone is getting a 255 in version 5.1, that would be a bug (an unsigned character underflow) and we would need to fix it. Bye... Michael Wood

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- 5/20/2001 9:03:00 AM

murx

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Hi, the 255 Vision Bug only happens in desert with sandstorm so far, hopefully this information will help to track that bugger down :) But on the maximum 44 hex vision I completely disagree ... 44 hex = 2.2 Km - at good, clear weather vision from hills is 4-6 Km at least. And vision reaches very quickly its maximum after about one hour after sunrise until about 1 hour before sunset. So from about march to september the vision from 7 am till 7 pm should be at a maximum. The vision is calculated now is a bit unrealistic (and that is in my view an understatement :D ). I have been a lot out in the open trecking & camping and my experience is that a vision of 50 m (1 hex) only happens in really dark nights or around midnight - at full moon with clear weather a trained eye can see up to a kilometer !! Normal vision is about 200-250 m at night (well, you cant read the newspaper but you still can see people moving around) - and I'm not talking about clouds reflecting citylights down to the surrounding area. I have played with the newest version about 15 battles in campaign (and reloaded about 50 missions with so bad vision that I didn't liked it) - I never had a 'normal' vision range of about 44 hex - only twice I had the 255 vision bug, the 'best' normal results are 20-24 hex vision. So please check the routine :) murx

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