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Magic Carpet - 6/13/2017 9:28:32 PM

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Just curious. Has anyone ever conducted a Magic Carpet at your end game? Let's say you were bored, waiting on an opponent's PBEM turn, and had a game going against the AI and you'd taken everything but maybe left Tokyo besieged and burned out, and wanted to see exactly what it took to ship everything back to home bases. This thought struck me while reading certain ship histories, including those of captured vessels impressed into Magic Carpet service.

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RE: Magic Carpet - 6/13/2017 10:00:36 PM

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Just curious. Has anyone ever conducted a Magic Carpet at your end game? Let's say you were bored, waiting on an opponent's PBEM turn, and had a game going against the AI and you'd taken everything but maybe left Tokyo besieged and burned out, and wanted to see exactly what it took to ship everything back to home bases. This thought struck me while reading certain ship histories, including those of captured vessels impressed into Magic Carpet service.

You won't be able to quite match historic magic carpet repatriation. IIRC, some CVs were used - landing their aircraft at a base so the hangar decks could be used for troops. I don't think the game will let you load troops on an Allied CV.

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RE: Magic Carpet - 6/13/2017 10:11:21 PM

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BBfanboy, I agree, many ship types won't be usable in game for this purpose due to lack of cargo capacity, and CV-6 Enterprise was one such carrier employed bringing troops home. I was just curious whether anyone's ever attempted this :)

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RE: Magic Carpet - 6/13/2017 10:32:39 PM

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It would make for an interesting and unusual end to the game. In real life, DD696 - USS English - participated in the Magic Carpet ride back to San Francisco. As said above, many of the ships used for this have no troop capacity for this.

Of course, it is possible to add troop capability to a late war class upgrade that would accomplish this.

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RE: Magic Carpet - 6/14/2017 1:12:46 AM

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And then there are all those POWs liberated at the end of the war that are not represented in game. I've never seen mention of numbers by theatre of ops, so I don't know how you could build in the thousands of disabled troops involved. But feel free to create an army of nurses to tend to them!

I'm sure MakeeLearn could come up with a suitable unit picture for them!

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RE: Magic Carpet - 6/14/2017 4:39:15 AM

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And then there are all those POWs liberated at the end of the war that are not represented in game. I've never seen mention of numbers by theatre of ops, so I don't know how you could build in the thousands of disabled troops involved. But feel free to create an army of nurses to tend to them!
I'm sure MakeeLearn could come up with a suitable unit picture for them!

I've wondered of late what became of the Canadians present at Hong Kong. I assume, like most other early war POWs, that they fared poorly, but am curious about their experiences. Do you have a recommended biography or other book on the topic?

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RE: Magic Carpet - 6/14/2017 7:16:54 AM

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Haven't seen a book specifically about that battle, although I have read newspaper articles about it since the Winnipeg Grenadiers were there.
I think about 40% if the Canadians lived through the camps and came home, but most had nutrition deficit diseases like beriberi.

A Canadian Brigadier was killed during the battle. I remember reading that when the Canadians arrived he was appalled at the unpreparedness of the garrison. There were outposts in the mountains set up to give early warning of Japanese movements, but no men were assigned to the outposts. The garrison that had been there for ages did not want to leave the city where they had barracks (and probably, Chinese girlfriends).

The Canadians had barely begun to dig in around the perimeter when the Japanese attacked. The Japanese had lots of artillery and MGs, the Canadians had, at best, 3" mortars. No contest in the result, although the defenders earned the Japanese respect for their determination. IIRC, they allowed the Brigadier to be buried with full honours before they marched the prisoners off.

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RE: Magic Carpet - 6/14/2017 7:33:08 AM

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And then there are all those POWs liberated at the end of the war that are not represented in game. I've never seen mention of numbers by theatre of ops, so I don't know how you could build in the thousands of disabled troops involved. But feel free to create an army of nurses to tend to them!
I'm sure MakeeLearn could come up with a suitable unit picture for them!

I've wondered of late what became of the Canadians present at Hong Kong. I assume, like most other early war POWs, that they fared poorly, but am curious about their experiences. Do you have a recommended biography or other book on the topic?