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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 3:31:33 AM   
WingedIncubus


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I move my troops to make a final stand behind the Moskva and Nara rivers, while I extend my left flank over the lower Nara behind Kaluga.

Reserve Front relocated behind the MV Canal north of Moscow.

I spend a massive number of AP to assign new, competent commanders to Armies on the front:

10th - Malinovsky
54th (in Moscow itself) - Govorov
20th - Rybalko
69th Rifle - Galitsky
22th - Petrov
33rd - Golikov
34th - Galanin

I also send the biggest wave of bombers and tactical bombers as possible on Psych0's tanks, motorized, and massed Infantry Divisions. For the first time, I am starting to see some "significant" damages - and no Luftwaffe cover in sight, so I send EVERY ABLE BOMBER.





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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 3:35:45 AM   
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The last survivors from the Dnepr line have now reached the rear line.

Same as in the Centre. I've spent the remaining APs to change a few commanders around Kharkov and reassign units to closer HQs.

Bombers ahoy!



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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 3:39:12 AM   
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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 4:16:02 AM   
M60A3TTS


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Status: offline 		You've got the airbases fixed, so thumbs up there.

Leningrad- it bears repeating, never ever withdraw from the Finnish No Attack Line. In doing so, you deprive yourself of two hexes worth of units that now cannot be in a reserve state in defending Osinovets since they are adjacent to enemy units.

Have you taken the industry from Kaluga? The units there and immediately to the east need to pull back behind the river by Serpukhov.

Your industry looks healthy, you could win the game no problem with what is remaining.

You have good leaders it seems where you need them.

How many panzer corps are operating around Moscow based on what you have seen from various combat results?

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 4:19:21 AM   
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Leningrad- it bears repeating, never ever withdraw from the Finnish No Attack Line. In doing so, you deprive yourself of two hexes worth of units that now cannot be in a reserve state in defending Osinovets since they are adjacent to enemy units.



The reason I withdrew was that I was actually attacked by Finnish troops across that No Attack Line. I had placed troops on the three hexes below the line, and the Finnish attacked me nonetheless.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 4:21:29 AM   
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Have you taken the industry from Kaluga?



No. And neither from Bryansk either. Totally forgot about those two when I used all my Cap.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 4:24:38 AM   
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How many panzer corps are operating around Moscow based on what you have seen from various combat results?


No clue. I refer myself to what I see on the map.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 6:05:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Drakken

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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Leningrad- it bears repeating, never ever withdraw from the Finnish No Attack Line. In doing so, you deprive yourself of two hexes worth of units that now cannot be in a reserve state in defending Osinovets since they are adjacent to enemy units.



The reason I withdrew was that I was actually attacked by Finnish troops across that No Attack Line. I had placed troops on the three hexes below the line, and the Finnish attacked me nonetheless.


That simply isn't possible, unless there is a bug.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 9:37:23 AM   
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How many panzer corps are operating around Moscow based on what you have seen from various combat results?


No clue. I refer myself to what I see on the map.


Good recon and intelligence is really important for the Soviet side! Try to keep track where the panzers are and what they're doing.

Here's my "Stavka intel" document attached, for your eyes only :D

I try to find all the PzCorps and their divisions, and also should keep track what the best infantry corps are up to too. I check their supply distance (6/30 = 6 hexes, 30MP for example), keep track of their fuel situation and try to speculate if they would be doing a buildup.




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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 9:41:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow i want you as my chief of staff . (While i grumble general directions on the map and let my subordinate translate this into orders).

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 9:44:10 AM   
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Wow i want you as my chief of staff . (While i grumble general directions on the map and let my subordinate translate this into orders).


Let me check the translation for this spreadsheet... it seems to be "HOLD YOUR POSITION AT ALL COSTS.".

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 3:14:35 PM   
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That simply isn't possible, unless there is a bug.


There was a SEC unit in the marsh hex, below the No Attack Line, and it got pushed through the line right into the Tank Division.

https://www.screencast.com/t/Gvi6zSU9N

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 3:16:46 PM   
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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 3:21:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Drakken

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That simply isn't possible, unless there is a bug.


There was a SEC unit in the marsh hex, below the No Attack Line, and it got pushed through the line right into the Tank Division.

https://www.screencast.com/t/Gvi6zSU9N


Look at that hex again. It is above the line.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 4:18:32 PM   
WingedIncubus


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Look at that hex again. It is above the line.


Oh jeez, I got confused by the red border layout.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 4:20:26 PM   
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Look at that hex again. It is above the line.


Oh jeez, I got confused by the red border layout.


What is the red border meant to represent? The old Finnish border? Sorry I am still on vanilla map.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 6:26:53 PM   
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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/4/2017 6:29:16 PM   
Telemecus


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Status: offline 		Ah - I would be interested - does that mean there is a red line for the original Rumanian border too? If so this map mod is interesting.

Does that also mean there is one hex north of the Finnish no move line which could, theoretically, spawn partisans?

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/7/2017 6:57:29 AM   
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Psych0 is finally starting to slow down in both the Centre and the South. He has candidly admitted to me in comment that his fuel supply is holding on shoelaces, especially in the South.

Osinovets has fallen, so Leningrad is now officially and unirredeemably ****ed. We will start evacuating the Sviritsa area to create a new line in the heavy woods between the Oyat and the Chagodosha River.

While they have reached the neighborhood of Moscow and tried to push in the North they have been unable to cross the MV Canal. Iksha is ZOC-converted but not occupied, I will sacrifice two screens to occupy them to prevent his panzers from spending less MPs moving in.

Kharkov is threatened, but there some good occasions for small counter-attacks there in both flanks around Lyubotin...

Stalino is stronk, but panzers have reached my southernmost flank on the Kalmius. Should I build a second line behind the Mius and make a stand there, hoping to bottle them there in the plains? However, the rear in the Ilovayskoe is quite vulnerable to cross the Mius there.










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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/7/2017 8:47:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Stalino looks a bit scary, he might be preparing for an enveloping maneuver across Kalmius and Torets. The cities don't necessarily need that strong garrisons since they usually just get surrounded and starved to death :(

On Krim, the best fortified positions should be south of Armyansk and north of Dzhankoy, since those hexes have limited space to attack and enter from. If you hold before these positions, especially before fortifying them, you'll just get unnecessarily beaten back by attacks coming from multiple hexes. Romanians have trouble gathering enough CV to attack from a single hex against a well fortified position.

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RE: Newbs in the East: Psych0 (Axis) vs Drakken (Sov) -... - 10/20/2017 4:50:45 AM   
WingedIncubus


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Status: offline 		Just letting you know, guys. I have not abandoned this game. Real life has forced me to take a break because my schedule is too busy for the next two-three weeks.

Of course, psych0 was advised.

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