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air attack of subs - 5/15/2003 10:56:31 PM

yamato

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Currently playing as the Japs and have noticed air attacks on several of my subs. Despite having lots of my air committed to
asw patrol, I have yet to see them attack a sub yet. Just the luck of the draw or am I missing something ?

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- 5/15/2003 11:52:16 PM

AmiralLaurent

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With ASW patrols at 1000 feet, I had sightings, attacks and sometimes hit (two claimed in two months).

All floatplanes except Mavis and Emily usually flew ASW, being detached from their AV to be present in every base. I use also Vals when far away from Allied planes and ships (N of SHortlands for example in June 1942).

It seems to me that to have a chance to attack and hit something, you should have a concentration of ASW planes, not only 4 of them.
But the most useful result of ASW planes is to watch subs so you can send DD to hunt them.
I's very rare to kill a sub with a bombing attack. I saw only one B-17 managing that in a test game I ran. In my normal games, B-17 have other things to do...
On the opposite, I have seen numerous cases where a sub has to be sent to Pearl or Tokyo, having suffered from 40 to 60 SYS and FLT in a bombing.

I have a related question : half of my floatplanes on board cruisers are on ASW (100%) while the other are on naval search. If I have seen them numerous times watching enemy ships, I have not yet seen a SOC-3 attack a sub. Are they useful at all in this role ? At least CV planes work for that.

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- 5/16/2003 12:55:06 AM

Lrfss

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Hi All!

I have seen my SOC-3 Floats set at Naval Search and 50% ASW attack Sub's off of my CA's before, so this must work.

It does seem though if you have the Floats set the same based on land/Tender application you get more hits on ASW, however this may just be luck rather than truely being related?

Later,

Lrfss

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- 5/16/2003 4:18:46 AM

Drex

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I had 6 subs clustered in front of Buna to thwart Japanese supply of their invasion force. In come the big bad CV TF with all of its bombers and search craft on asw. One sub was hit and the other 5 used all their fuel diving away from the plane attacks. I had to send them all back to Australia. The subs never even got to attack.

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- 5/16/2003 4:37:29 AM

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Set ASW missions to an elevation of 100 ft for maximum effectiveness..

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- 5/16/2003 5:18:02 AM

madflava13

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I've had some success with hits at 1000', but I'm gonna try Snigbert's suggestion of 100' and see what happens...

On a related note, I recently had some B-26s score hits while on routine naval search - I had them on Naval attack with 20% searching. Up came the report of 2 APs sighted, then a report that said "AP reported hit" or something to that effect... I have yet to see PBYs do that, even though they did so on a regular basis historically...

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- 5/16/2003 11:31:06 AM

Admiral Scott