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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/15/2018 3:45:36 PM   
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Im not sure

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/15/2018 5:41:55 PM   
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Okay this defense strategy has been approved. I give you the greenlight.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/16/2018 3:51:01 AM   
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Its air marshall's turn.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/16/2018 3:51:31 PM   
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I Finnish my air turn.
happy to report that I evacuated all the factories that are in danger, discounting the doomed armaments in Voronezh we now have 239 Armaments and 181 Heavy Industry.
Not much I can do about Yaroslavl... if it holds next turn I would like to evac the H. Industry but the price of evacuation is now horribly expensive, it will cost 16 000 rail capacity per piece!! considering that we might get 60 000 rail or less next turn, that is a high price to pay.
I re-establish contact with the Voronezh pocket with the sacrifice of a weak Cav division, but this is the last time, I plan to retreat the troops to the next safest river line.

Central commander, I placed all Fighter reserves at the Airfields North of Yaroslavl. it seams Moscow M.D HQ disbanded so keep that in mind.
I recommend that you replace the leader of 48th Army or transfer the more important troops to the 43rd army(the one with the 5.4 leader), it would be great if we can get as high CV as possible with the same army in the city. I fear 73 CV is not enough.
recon as much as you need!
there is still 1700 rail capacity left, if you need it, use it!

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/16/2018 7:01:53 PM   
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Товарищи!

Center done.

Report:
20th Army bolstered with high CV units and set to 100% TOE (Gorky Main Defense).
Yaroslavl defense set to 90% TOE and Refit, all 43rd Army.
Deepening of defensive lines made along critical areas.

Request:
Please divert some reinforcements to Penza and Saransk next week!

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/17/2018 3:44:34 PM   
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Funny, I don't seem to be able to do recon behind my front. There are recon aircraft with miles left on functioning airbases with supplies, etc., but no love. Ah, I think it is % required to fly that is the issue. Was this intentional? Maybe air units that have fewer than the required # of a/c to fly could be withdrawn to national reserves.

There are a couple of units back behind the front who are on rail lines and have some MP left. Are you planning to move them at the end, Supremo? It's not critical, but it would be nice if I had a cavalry division in the Leningrad Front sector so I could put him on reserve and try to put some hurt on the Finns.

Another thing: there doesn't appear to be any Axis rail lines north of Moscow except for the line running down through Karelia. Does this suggest that there will be an offensive in my sector in the snow, or later? I might need some reinforcements if the Finns are going to get pushy over the winter. Has anyone been keeping track of the Axis rail repair units? I can't see any evidence of Axis rail operations anywhere.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/17/2018 7:52:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

Funny, I don't seem to be able to do recon behind my front. There are recon aircraft with miles left on functioning airbases with supplies, etc., but no love. Ah, I think it is % required to fly that is the issue. Was this intentional? Maybe air units that have fewer than the required # of a/c to fly could be withdrawn to national reserves.


Acknowledged, I've sent 2 recon air groups to your front, one is a U2 rcn, it has low range, 10 hexes, with a staging base it has a max range of 15 hexes, max range = radius + 1/2 radius.
so keep that in mind.
actually the % require to fly is pretty low, 30%, meaning that 70% of total planes can fly, once Mud arrives, I will change it to 50% to improve the VVS.
I mostly care to send low morale air groups to the reserve, and unless the airbase is being attack by Axis air force.
once Mud arrives, I will sent all air groups except recon to reserve.

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Another thing: there doesn't appear to be any Axis rail lines north of Moscow except for the line running down through Karelia. Does this suggest that there will be an offensive in my sector in the snow, or later? I might need some reinforcements if the Finns are going to get pushy over the winter. Has anyone been keeping track of the Axis rail repair units? I can't see any evidence of Axis rail operations anywhere.


the Karelia rail way as not be fixed even in the town of janisjarvi, low damage of 7-12 all the way to the Russian mainland. it seams Axis has poorly administer the repair here.
the poor supply even in summer on your front, with the best being 30 MP, suggest that the Axis will not perform an offensive here or indeed receive little attention if at all.
it's also my opinion that an offensive with the Fins is highly unlikely, the Fins have little manpower and attacking our forces is the best way to drain their manpower as long as you don't suffer any encirclements.
there is little value for the Axis in capturing more territory there other then the city of Cherepovets and that is not worth the casualties of Fins to reach there.

To find out where the FBD is working just check the rail line with 1 damage, for example at Moscow with 4 rail hexes with 1 damage.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/17/2018 10:05:58 PM   
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So yeah, open up the game and try to do a recon mission behind the Finnish sector. I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. Not a big deal.

As you say, a Finnish offensive is a good thing from our point of view, since there aren't very many Finns and any casualties can't be replaced. In fact, the Finnish Army is getting smaller all the time.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/18/2018 1:53:07 AM   
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Flag text file has been saying "North has file" for quite a while. Doctor, are you still working on it?

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/18/2018 3:53:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

So yeah, open up the game and try to do a recon mission behind the Finnish sector. I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. Not a big deal.

As you say, a Finnish offensive is a good thing from our point of view, since there aren't very many Finns and any casualties can't be replaced. In fact, the Finnish Army is getting smaller all the time.


at the start of turn 16, your front only had 2 recon groups, with just 5 aircraft each, not suprising it could only do 2 or 3 missions, which I personal did.
for next turn you will have an additional 2 recon groups.

The Fins also have a lot of withdrawals.




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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/18/2018 6:32:25 AM   
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Sorry, long day, I'm done now.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/18/2018 2:35:29 PM   
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Finish my South and air turn.
I'm slowly retreating to the Don and Rostov, to ensure the safety of Rostov I will keep on defending the minor river, however if I spot mobile units in close proximity I will retreat further back, I still believe that space between the enemy and Rostov can guaranty the safety of the City during the vulnerable snow turns.

I also did another change, I notice that most units directly under Stavka were on refit, the more units that are on refit the less likely men and arms are to reach the more important units, we only want manpower to slowly fill up these formations so they can start training, I turn off refit for these units.

in about 2 turns, we are about to hit an armaments shortage, compounded by a manpower shortage, we need to be more careful then ever on what stays on refit and what doesn't. with all this said, I'm contemplating a risky strategy, I plan to let the Rostov industries stay in place for the entirety of winter, while I feel confident in the safety of the city, this will no doubt make it an even more tempting target.
perhaps I will evacuate the Heavy Industry regardless.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/18/2018 5:23:08 PM   
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I just took a look at the Supcom Final save.

Forgive me but...

Noticed there were 2 Tank Brigades in the Voronezh pocket that were still assigned to STAVKA. Is this intentional?

Also 50% of the units in the pocket are set to refit. Are these the important units we are talking about? Does this not mean that we will be throwing away valuable men and equipment for nothing? All this while practically no units in the North or Center have this priority. I would have imagined at least some of the very weak new formations arriving around Gorky would receive some priority so more men have time to conduct training.

Would be very interested to hear the angle on these decisions.


Also, there are (relatively speaking of course) a lot of units under Central Command. Should a couple of armies be diverted from Center -> South command to replace the lost southern front section?

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/18/2018 6:49:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darojax

I just took a look at the Supcom Final save.

Forgive me but...

Noticed there were 2 Tank Brigades in the Voronezh pocket that were still assigned to STAVKA. Is this intentional?


won't make a difference, the tank Brigades CV is puny, a hasty attack by a inf. regiment can take it out.
couldn't bother with the effort to wast command points on it.

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ORIGINAL: Darojax

Also 50% of the units in the pocket are set to refit. Are these the important units we are talking about? Does this not mean that we will be throwing away valuable men and equipment for nothing? All this while practically no units in the North or Center have this priority. I would have imagined at least some of the very weak new formations arriving around Gorky would receive some priority so more men have time to conduct training.

Would be very interested to hear the angle on these decisions.

Refit only works effectively to units close to the rail, while there is still a bonus, only those units right on the rail will get priority for replacements.
besides, I downgraded all the isolated units ToE to 20%, so its a non issue.
the main reason I do this is to prevent the divisions from wasting supply building meager fort levels.

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ORIGINAL: Darojax
Also, there are (relatively speaking of course) a lot of units under Central Command. Should a couple of armies be diverted from Center -> South command to replace the lost southern front section?


are you talking about moving a decent number of divisions as well to the South?
if so, I strongly object, the priority right now it to protect Gorky from an all out assault during the 1st winter month, the center with lack of troops hold little value either way.
weak reinforcements, to slow down the enemy will do just fine.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/18/2018 6:54:03 PM   
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Very well. Thank you for stilling my curiosity.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/20/2018 6:52:39 AM   
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Guys Im a bit mute these days but dont worry, I read everything, every day.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/22/2018 10:18:48 PM   
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Alright. the files will be with us by tomorrow, the axis team said....They ended their message with "Good Luck" .....

that is quite troublesome.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/23/2018 9:14:21 PM   
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Turn is in.

Yaroslavl fell this week. Despite our valiant troops fighting like Russian steppe bears, 3 Panzer and 6 Infantry divisions (150,000 men) led by von Manstein proved too much.

No German has yet crossed the Volga, however. The Germans are massing on the other side in the Yaroslavl sector. Mud is forecasted for next week, if that happens we should be able to hold them back. Will focus on improving our depth defenses where possible.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/23/2018 11:38:05 PM   
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such a shame for Yaroslavl, we could have evacuated the factories over the mud, we must march forward.

turn 18 is always the mud turn with the anomaly of snow for the South.

Honestly I want to resign my position as Air marshal, let some other brave comrade take the mantle.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/25/2018 2:59:02 AM   
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The only other person who knows a lot about air is Darojax I believe. Il do my turn tomorrow, but I will need to get a replacement after that. Too much to do here right now and after this Im leaving. Will be back around the week of the 4th April.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/25/2018 4:42:09 AM   
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I'll take the Air.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/25/2018 1:50:08 PM   
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cool, good luck Darojax, just a note, the Axis seams intent on bombing the Yak 1 factories at Engels,etc. they can grow to 25 but are at 14 right now, they only need 1% damage to stop expansion. I've put two air bases covering the 2 city hexes, but it seams the Axis just does night bombing as well.
I recommend filling all those airbases with good Fighters, and set some of then to night mission, and/or Both night and air.
there is also PVO regiments, these seam better thanks to the 85mm anti air.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/25/2018 1:56:32 PM   
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Alright, I'll make note of this.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/25/2018 6:38:54 PM   
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Alright guys I saw a bit the battlefield last night. I will leave you with these instructions, to fullfill until I come back.

The USSR will transform into a triumvirate. All three Marshals will discusss between themselves on what move to do is best.
But here are my orders :

Distribute Reinforcement as originally planned. I put a copy of those orders below :

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Marshall Darojax, expect this much reinforcement arriving by the 25th September. :

-29 Rifle Division
-6 Cavalry Division
- 17th Moscow Rifle Division. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th_Rifle_Division )

Marshall Doctorking, expect this much reinforcement arriving by the 2nd October :

-23 Rifle Division
-Misc of Construction, Naval Brigades, Sappers, AT Artillery, Motorized and Cavalry divisions


Marshall Mamluke, expect this much reinforcement arriving by the 9th October:

-18 Rifle Division
-30 Tank Brigade



On the 16th October. Reinforcement will be shared between North and South.
On the 23rd and 30th October, Reinforcement will be sent in the Central Front.
On the 6th November, reinforcement will be given to the South
On the 13 November, reinforcement will be given to the North.

On the 20th, 27th and 4th December, ALL reinforcement will be given to the Kursk Front. The Kursk front will be somewhat of a Active/Sleeping Commando Army that can be activated whenever I decide. This is a new Front I want to open, with, POSSIBLY, a new human commander. If not by a new commander, It will be taken by Thedoctorking in sleeping time and taken by either Central or Southern Commander during Active time. During Active time, the Kursk Front will have for objective to execute pincer movement where an opportunity arise, either going North towards Smolensk, or South towards Kiev. During Sleeping time, it will try to go and capture back Chernigov and Gomel.

This is the reinforcement you will all receive. ALL Moscow Rifle divisions will be sent to Moscow Front. All Leningrad Rifle Division will be sent to Leningrad Front.
Keep in mind Marshalls, that those forces are going to be the one you will have at your disposition for the Winter Offensive I am currently planning. The date of the attack has not yet been decided but during mid October, I will communicate with each of you, the objectives I want to achieve, and you will need to draw me a strategic plan. I may change some details , but if accepted, you will all be expected to achieve those objectives so be realist in your execution. Each Front will need to be in pair with each other, we cant have the central front advancing 50 miles, while North and South advance 10 miles.



This is pretty much it, do as you will in order to keep the defensive line stable until I come back basically.
Sorry for the hasty leave, but I cant hang out on the computer from now on.

Good Luck ( My turn has not been done, you guys can elect someone to do supreme commander turn, wich basically consist of assigning reinforcement and data collection ( wich you dont have to do in my absence ) Also in position to change leadership as will.

Il be back.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/25/2018 6:40:46 PM   
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PS: Dont open the Kursk front without me, this is something that needs a bit more planning right now.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/27/2018 10:35:11 AM   
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Alright I will do the Supreme Commander turn as well.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/27/2018 10:39:33 AM   
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Doctorking, where do you want your reinforcements to arrive?

Mamluke, where do you want your reinforcements to arrive?

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/28/2018 8:05:52 AM   
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OK then, never mind.

Most reinforcements have been sent to the South sector, not so many to the North.

Commander South, all units and reinforcements south of city Penza (Y61) and west of Kuybyshev (X155) is under your command.

All commanders feel free to use remaining strategic movement points to move your units currently loaded on rail to disembark where you deem best.

Air turn commencing.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/28/2018 10:25:52 AM   
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Alright, so to clarify, each Ground Commander is responsible for their own Tactical Air Operations and moving the Air Bases that belong to each Front. However, do not move Long Range Air Command bases, these are directly under the Air Marshal. Here are some pointers from one of our previous Air Marshals:

* If you ever attack anything, bomb the hex twice beforehand.

* Keep airbases around 5 hexes behind your front line, unless it is clear that that area will be overrun.

* Bunch your airbases up as close to each other as possible; mutual fighter protection.

* At the end of your turn, bomb all tank/mech units twice, and any threatening infantry units twice as much as possible.

* For bombing missions, don't do the auto mode: Hold shift, then right click the hex you want to bomb. That way you can choose which air units will take part. More than 200 bombers per attack is not that efficient. Il-2 are better against mech/tank units. Level bombers better against infantry.

* If it is likely that the Germans will use air supply in an area, make sure that bases with fighters with miles left in them are close by as much as possible.

* Only aircraft attached to a front can fly ground support for that front. So, within your command, make sure that each front has some air units, and that they are within range.

* You are free to transfer air regiments within and between the Bases and Fronts under your command to your liking. Try to maintain the following Air Base organization when possible:

IAD - Fighters AB
BAD - Bombers AB
DBAD - Long Range Bombers AB
TBAB - Heavy Bombers AB
SAD/VVS/PVO - Mixed (All types of AC) AB
VVS-ChF - Mixed Black Sea AB
VVS-KBF - Mixed Baltic AB


At the time of writing this report we have 2541 Fighters, 721 Tactical Bombers, 1955 Level Bombers, 166 Recon and 95 Transport aircraft, 5478 in total.

Current distribution of SAF Regiments is listed below. Feel free to come with requests, suggestions etc.





Air turn now done, will proceed with Center.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 3/28/2018 11:05:09 AM   
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Roger comrade Darojax.

Comrade, I would like to recommend that the city of Murom be fortified, it will be hard to build a fort with mud but at least over a level 1 fort would be nice, just in case.

they have so much territory, I fear an attack on Gorky could be a very real possibility! however, perhaps an attack at Rostov to the Don river would be easier for then and make it easier to contain the Southern front.

Also another advise:
special attention should be given to the fully man rifle divisions that will arrive during the mud and snow. these are high morale, experience units, their placement for an offensive will be crucial, those of note in the next 3-4 turns are:

65th rifle division.
413th rifle
415th rifle
239th rifle
372nd rifle
17th Mountain cavlary division.

for turn 22, 6 great rifle division will arrive! but this will be way up in snow.
366th rifle
382nd ridle
390th rifle
385th rifle
387th rifle
391st rifle

and of course all naval rifle brigades, with high exp and morale, a very efficient use of command points.

personally, I use a special color to distinct then, dark red. this makes then much easier to spot.


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