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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/13/2017 5:13:19 PM   
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Sounds like a good plan. I did basically the same, with the exception that the Clemsons also became APDs. That ASW rating of 6 sure is useful in the beginning of the war.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/13/2017 7:43:38 PM   
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Sounds like a good plan. I did basically the same, with the exception that the Clemsons also became APDs. That ASW rating of 6 sure is useful in the beginning of the war.

Ditto. The problem with waiting is that you lose the ability to convert them to APD after their first upgrade as DDs.
Between invasions, I like the APDs to run units that have no equipment like Port Service Dets and HQs to more forward bases. My APs are not risked and if a sub hits an APD with a torp you don't lose the entire unit.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/13/2017 8:43:31 PM   
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I gather up and hide the APs that can convert to APAs in 3/43 at Mare Island. The Allies need every one of them in early 43.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/20/2017 3:09:56 PM   
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Residents of coastal Malaya watch in awe as the night sky is lit by many fires and the peace of the tropical night broken by the occasional thunderous roar, as Japanese subs turn the Malacca straits into a killing field. xAP Ipoh, xAP Perak and xAK Demedocus all succumb as they desperately flee a doomed Singapore.
The flight has also started in earnest from other bases, and the Japanese subs pick off a tanker and an AG off the eastern coast of Borneo. It’s a grim night for the Allies, but a good night for the sharks.

There is no let up during the day either, with both AMCs fleeing Singapore taking a torpedo. Both have float damage in the 50s. The carriers off the Philippines also get in on the act, sinking a few transports with torps and bombs.

This stage of the game reminds me of those nature programmes showing the wildebeest migrating across the Serengeti. Those poor animals know they have to cross the river, and they know the crocodiles are waiting. But they all jump in anyway, on the basis that most of them are going to make it even as a few get munched.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/20/2017 3:49:42 PM   
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The Allies refuse to take it lying down though. Force Z speeds towards reported Japanese landings at Singakawang. Prince of Wales with CLs Danae and Mauritius gets there first and the lookouts spot a group of Japanese transports at just 8,000 yards. At that range it’s not a battle but an execution. Four xAKs are sent to the bottom by broadsides from as close as 3,000 yards.
But alas, unseen among the transports is DD Yamagumo, and the canny Japanese commander takes advantage of the confusion to get off one round of torpedoes before disappearing into the night. His aim is true, and the valiant British battleship lurches as a torpedo strikes deep into her vitals.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Fushimi Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAK Mexico Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Mikasa Maru, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Ryoyo Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1
CL Danae
CL Mauritius
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Vendetta

This is why I hate night engagements with the Japanese, one stupid torpedo can turn a storming success into a disaster. PoW ends the turn south of Singakawang with 40 float and various other damage, so that’s our best ship in the area knocked out in its first fight. If we can get her out, she will limp to Cape Town for repairs.

The Renown and Repulse find no more ships at Singakawang, so instead content themsevles with pounding the landing beaches. It must have hurt the Japanese, because their attack fails to take the base.





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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/20/2017 4:23:10 PM   
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Cape Town - Expand the port to ensure that everything on PoW can be repaired.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/20/2017 4:24:29 PM   
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There is a bit of a tussle in the air over Georgetown as our poor Buffaloes go up against some Nates and Lilys, and manage to down one each for a loss of two fighters.

A group of Vildebees flying from Miri put a 500lb bomb into an xAK off the north coast of Borneo. I’d flown a couple of groups in here in the hopes I could surprise something unloading. It sort of worked, but unfortunately there were just not enough planes to really make a difference. Most of the torpedo bombers are lying in pieces on the Singapore runway.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Zyunyo Maru, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

The ground combat phase is particularly grim, with shock attacks all over the place.

In Malaya, the Japanese launch a shock attack at Mersing. The defenders reel back to Johore, with tanks in close pursuit. He can probably attack with the tanks next turn and take Johore, sealing most of our troops on the Malayan peninsula and ensuring the swift fall of Singapore.

The Japanese do almost the same at Lingayen in the Philippines, with their shock attack driving the defenders back on Clark Field and Japanese tanks in reserve appearing there the next day. It seems like a pretty good idea. Why spend days driving down muddy jungle tracks to the next hex when troops on reserve can magically teleport with their defeated opponents?

There’s a really interesting battle at Malaybalay in the southern Philippines. The 1300 troops of the 102nd PA Infantry Regiment are easily swept aside by paradropped elements of the 1st Para Assault Div.

Ground combat at Malaybalay (80,90)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 654 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 47

Defending force 1362 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 44

Japanese adjusted assault: 26

Allied adjusted defense: 10

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Malaybalay !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1865 casualties reported
Squads: 68 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 72 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (10 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
1st Para Assault Div /1

Defending units:
102nd PA Infantry Regiment

He also launches another paratroop attack with the 1st Raiding Regiment at Victoria Point, capturing it easily.
Other bases to fall include Kota Bahru, Kuantan, Iba, Aparri, Busuanga and Makin.

Edits to mention that his attacks at Kuching and Singkawang fail. They're small battles, but hey, we'll take it. Any delay in the steamroller is a good delay.


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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 8:19:13 AM   
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Cape Town - Expand the port to ensure that everything on PoW can be repaired.


Good advice nygiants, I didn't know that. I have also just discovered that Batavia cannot rearm the big guns on the Brit battlecruisers, so they have upped anchor and are heading to Soerebaja.

Another turn back, much excitement. Will have to post later.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 9:46:35 AM   
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What are your deployment plans for the 'at sea' brigades around India?

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 12:20:53 PM   
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What are your deployment plans for the 'at sea' brigades around India?


Because Singapore is going to fall really early, am expecting a strike on India. So dropping two independent brigades in Diego and Socotra to cover the supply lines, and putting anything else onto the mainland.
We'll probably abandon Colombo, which is easy to cut off and take, and pull the useful units onto the mainland as well. Plus the British division coming from Cape Town.
US air groups are being shipped to Cape Town for reinforcing India, plus the heavy bombers and Catalinas from PI. Not sure it is going to be anywhere near enough.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 12:24:32 PM   
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You could consider paying the PP to transfer at least one USA Inf Div from the East Coast to India. They could help 18th Brit Inf Div in the defense of the subcontinent.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 12:31:39 PM   
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I certainly have had that thought, and even know what division I'm going to send and it is currently railing to the east coast. But PPs are in short supply and high demand at the moment.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 12:33:42 PM   
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I can definitely relate!

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 3:16:59 PM   
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It takes a concerted PP savings effort to amass enough to buy out a division.

US divisions cost approximately 1,800 to 2,100 PPs to buy out.

At a rate of 50 PP per turn.

If you spend none for forty days you can buy a division.

We all know that no one can go 40 days without spending.

What I do is try to limit spending for 60 days to no more than 10 per day.

Also, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER EVER allow a unit you plan to buy out to take replacements before buying it.

Cost is based on size. Cost increases as you allow a unit to fill out with replacements.

The same is true for switching commands of bases.

Cost is 10 points per level of airfield and port so buy BEFORE you build!

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 3:19:56 PM   
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In this mod PPs are 75/day, and that helps a lot. Also, I but a Rgt at a time, splitting an Inf Div in 3 if necessary. That also helps get SOMETHING where you need it quicker.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 3:22:49 PM   
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quote:

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The Allies refuse to take it lying down though. Force Z speeds towards reported Japanese landings at Singakawang. Prince of Wales with CLs Danae and Mauritius gets there first and the lookouts spot a group of Japanese transports at just 8,000 yards. At that range it’s not a battle but an execution. Four xAKs are sent to the bottom by broadsides from as close as 3,000 yards.
But alas, unseen among the transports is DD Yamagumo, and the canny Japanese commander takes advantage of the confusion to get off one round of torpedoes before disappearing into the night. His aim is true, and the valiant British battleship lurches as a torpedo strikes deep into her vitals.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Fushimi Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAK Mexico Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Mikasa Maru, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Ryoyo Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1
CL Danae
CL Mauritius
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Vendetta

This is why I hate night engagements with the Japanese, one stupid torpedo can turn a storming success into a disaster. PoW ends the turn south of Singakawang with 40 float and various other damage, so that’s our best ship in the area knocked out in its first fight. If we can get her out, she will limp to Cape Town for repairs.

The Renown and Repulse find no more ships at Singakawang, so instead content themsevles with pounding the landing beaches. It must have hurt the Japanese, because their attack fails to take the base.






Good getting in and knocking that TF to pieces. At least PoW survived! How about having a PAIR of Brit BC instead of just Repulse!

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 3:44:05 PM   
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On the basis that a picture says 1,000 words...




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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 3:52:27 PM   
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Strange turn, strange turn.

It’s a shooting gallery as transports pour out of Manila and start the lemming run down to the south. There are a couple of small Japanese surface groups operating in the area picking off ships at will. What a horror for our captains, not knowing if this will be the moment when some Japanese ships heave over the horizon.

Our brave Manila PT boats make a desperate run to help clear the way, but despite loosing all their torpedoes, manage to lose one of their number for no hits. Poor PT-22, just one hit from CA Maya was enough to end its career.

In a slightly surreal engagement, DDs Thanet and Scout, sailing cautiously south from Hong Kong, stumble into a transport group. There is a brief exchange of fire before both break off, but not before two escorting PBs are sent to the bottom. I’m sending these guys to the north coast of Borneo to see if they can run into some transports returning from dropping off troops there.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Iba at 75,74, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Kyo Maru #2, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
PB Kyo Maru #11
PB Shonan Maru #1
PB Shonan Maru #2
PB Shonan Maru #17, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Nagara Maru
xAKL Fukuei Maru
xAK Korei Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Scout
DD Thanet


After the excitement of the night, day dawns over Georgetown with the sound of incoming bombers. With the route into Singapore closed off we’re making an attempt to pull out an infantry unit from Georgetown, but this has clearly been spotted.
Luckily the brave Buffaloes of No 21 Sqn RAAF and No 488 Sqn RAF are there to meet them, with Bettys and Lilys going down with no hits on the transports. But another wave of bombers arrives in the afternoon, and while the exhausted fighter pilots down more, enough get through to sink one xAKL and heavily damage another, for a total of 4 Bettys and 6 Lilys.

Off northern Borneo the torpedo bombers are back in action. I have to say, these guys are lethal as long as there are no enemy fighters around, which there aren’t. Over three rounds of attacks we score the following:

APD Aoi, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hokko Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TB Kasasagi, Bomb hits 1, on fire

xAKL Kaishi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

xAK Giyu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Kaishi Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD Aoi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


While no troop losses are shown, we’re still pretty happy to be killing transports. Every dead transport now will not be shipping supplies or troops in the next invasion wave.
It’s good while it lasts, but the first time Swordfish or Vildebees run into Zeroes they will be butchered, and the fun will be over.

Ground combat starts. The gate to Singapore has closed. A group of Japanese tanks, racing ahead of the main force, easily smash aside the defenders and take Johore.

Ground combat at Johore Bahru (50,83)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2144 troops, 2 guns, 273 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Defending force 5525 troops, 50 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 31

Japanese adjusted assault: 190

Allied adjusted defense: 29

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Johore Bahru !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2945 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 282 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 30 (30 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 49 (49 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 3

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
22nd Australian Brigade
112th RAF Adv Base Force
113th RAF Adv Base Force
29 Battery/3 HAA
III Indian Corps
111th RAF Adv Base Force
30 Battery/3 HAA
109th RN Base Force


Japanese forces also capture Tarawa, Guam, Brunei, Jesselton. But surprisingly he again fails to capture Singkawang, and at Kuching this happens.

Ground combat at Kuching (58,88)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1629 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Defending force 1753 troops, 9 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
736 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
91st Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
Sarawak Force
2/15 Punjab Battalion
106th RN Base Force


Looks the 91st Naval Guard is a spent force for now.

Right near the end of the turn, we get this.

Sub attack near Terempa at 55,80

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Minegumo
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 2

Ammo storage explosion on CVL Ryujo
Ammo storage explosion on CVL Ryujo


Stroop waffels all round for those boys. Four torpedoes launched, four hits, and CVL Ryujo is no more.The end of turn shows 20 Zeroes and 18 Kates as ground losses, so she went down with her whole complement.

The upside of operating with carriers in the confined waters of the DEI is being able to cover landings at Mersing and keep Force Z feeling rather nervous. The downside is that you are in the middle of a bunch of subs with working torps. We got lucky, very lucky, but hell, we’ll take it.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/21/2017 3:57:28 PM   
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Congratulations and... "scratch one flattop!"

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/22/2017 1:49:51 AM   
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Those Dutch subs are worth their weight in those restricted waters, just gotta get those CM laying mines.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/22/2017 9:24:30 AM   
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Those Dutch subs are worth their weight in those restricted waters, just gotta get those CM laying mines.


The CMs have been extremely busy. Palembang is now a very dangerous place, and a couple of other Dutch ports have been seeded with mines as well. One or two subs are creeping out for some sneaky minelaying.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/22/2017 9:32:45 AM   
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I but a Rgt at a time, splitting an Inf Div in 3 if necessary. That also helps get SOMETHING where you need it quicker.


I hadn't thought of doing that, but it's an excellent idea. That way you can start fleshing it out with reinforcements earlier as well.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/23/2017 1:00:21 PM   
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The turns continue mixed.

The bad part continues through the night, as fleeing transports get butchered. He has at least two TFs operating southwest of Manila, and about the only thing they need to be worried about is running out of ammo. I am not going to post every combat report here -- it is too long and too depressing. Once this phase of the war is done, I’ll upload the list of lost ships.

Our subs though are doing a sterling job, and continue to take advantage of seas filled with juicy targets.

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Submarine attack near Kuantan at 53,79

Japanese Ships
xAK Kisogawa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXI

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Submarine attack near Singkawang at 54,86

Japanese Ships
xAK Ikushima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O16

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Particularly like this last one, as those troops were heading somewhere, and now they are going to have to swim to get there.

But then disaster strikes. Houston, heavily damaged by Kates on turn 1, has been waiting for the swarm of transports to be thickest before trying to make a run out, but it is to no avail. The Mikuma takes some time off from sinking transports to put the finishing touches to the work started by the carriers. Ouch.

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Tawi Tawi at 71,89, Range 21,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
CL Ishikari
DD Fubuki
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
DD Pope, Shell hits 18, and is sunk.


And then the day starts, and the Allied aircraft get in on the action. The landings on northern Borneo on uncovered are still not covered, giving the torpedo bombers a free run at a lone transport.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Brunei at 65,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 5
B-339D x 5

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Aso Maru, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk


And then sweet revenge for the Houston, the torpedo bombers put two penetrating hits on the Mikuma. Burn baby burn. I imagine she is going to need a bit of yard time after that.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sandakan at 71,88

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 3
Vildebeest III x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
DD Shirayuki, Bomb hits 1


I’d also moved up two groups of Banshees from Darwin to Ambon in the hopes of picking off any transports venturing a little too far south. Despite having absolutely terrible pilots, and boy do I mean terrible, unloading transports are clearly an easy enough target even for these guys. I was hoping for one or two hits, but the lads come through beautifully. I’ve summarised four attacks into this one report.

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xAK Atago Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Meiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
APD Hagi
xAK Santos Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Raizan Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

xAK Atago Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
TB Hayabusa
APD Hagi, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

APD Hagi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Santos Maru, heavy fires
xAK Zyuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TB Hayabusa

APD Hagi, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Zyuyo Maru, on fire
xAK Meiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Santos Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


Because of the Japanese unload bonus he seems to have been able to get all troops ashore before the transports got slammed, because there is not a single troop lost. Still, he is going to have send fresh transports to pick these guys up again. Those xAKs have got to be suffering after sucking up 1,000 lb bombs.

And now I have made a little mess of things. A Dutch CL group is creeping up the west coast of Borneo, looking for targets of opportunity, but strays too far north and comes within range of the light carriers covering Singapore.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Pontianak at 56,90

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CL Java, Torpedo hits 1
CL Durban
CL Tromp
DD Van Nes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Pontianak at 56,90

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Evertsen
CL Durban
CL Java, Bomb hits 1


End of turn reports shows Jave with just 23 float damage, so we got lucky. But we’ve been rumbled, so time to make scarce.

Japanese bombers hammer Clark Field, and for the first time US airplanes flying from adjacent fields rise to meet them. It’s a mere drop in the ocean, but the Warhawks down 5 Bettys and two Nells for no loss.

After being heavily skewed in the Japanese favour by the first round hammering, Japanese aircraft losses now exceed Allied. Helped along nicely by the 38 planes of Ryujo.

Ground combat phase, Hong Kong holds out for the turn, and the forts hold as well. Good casualties on the attackers.
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Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21489 troops, 289 guns, 189 vehicles, Assault Value = 955

Defending force 8112 troops, 132 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 234

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 227

Allied adjusted defense: 301

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
987 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 69 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
104th Division
38th Division
66th Infantry Regiment
19th Ind Com Engineer Regiment
20th Ind Com Engineer Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
1st Middlesex Battalion
Kowloon Brigade
102nd RN Base Force
Hong Kong Fortress


And it looks like one Japanese tank regiment got a bit too keen, and jumps the Singapore straits ahead of its friends, getting mauled for its troubles.

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 378 troops, 0 guns, 70 vehicles, Assault Value = 38

Defending force 21538 troops, 261 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 151

Japanese adjusted assault: 6

Allied adjusted defense: 271

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 45 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 39 (8 destroyed, 31 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
2nd Malay Battalion
2/17 Dogra Battalion
3rd Cavalry Regiment
SSVF Brigade
22nd Australian Brigade
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
224 Group RAF
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
Singapore Fortress
III Indian Corps
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Malayan Air Wing
Singapore Base Force
Malaya Army
29 Battery/3 HAA
112th RAF Adv Base Force


A third attack fails at Singkawang, at 1 to 3 odds, leaving this vital base for covering an invasion of Palembang in our hands for another turn. The hammering from Force Z must have really knocked the stuffing out of these guys, and I’m not sure he is going to be able to take it or Kuching without throwing in more resources.

We lose the base at Miri. We also lose Atimonan, cutting off Manila from the south. But our troops are already past this bottleneck, and Festung Manila will be happening soon.
What a pity we won’t have any forts, because we don’t have enough engineers to build any. Curse the designers of this mod and their hatred of massed engineers. I hope our Japanese opponent is suffering similarly.

There are landings at Davao and Cagayan in the southern Philippines, so he is moving quickly there as well.

But the most interesting development is the appearance of a very large Japanese Tf just off Palembang. There’s not too much we can do about it as Force Z is too far away, and he seems to have brought some battleships along to cover the landings. Hopefully one of them runs into the copious minefields we have planted.

The hard work will once again fall to the Vildebees, who are gathered at Oosthaven. There’s only 15 of them, and no torpedoes, so it doesn’t look like we’ll be able to achieve all that much. It should be interesting though because without Singkawang any air cover for the invasion is going to be flying a very long distance.


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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/23/2017 1:52:29 PM   
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Warning: When you normally capture a base with Heavy Industry (HI), half of it is destroyed. However, if the base is empty of enemy troops or auto flips to Japan then it is totally destroyed [down to (0)1]. I had that happen to me at many bases in southern India. I'm posting this in both AARs. I would suggest that any base with HI have to have some Allied troops there to prevent this.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/23/2017 2:25:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Warning: When you normally capture a base with Heavy Industry (HI), half of it is destroyed. However, if the base is empty of enemy troops or auto flips to Japan then it is totally destroyed [down to (0)1]. I had that happen to me at many bases in southern India. I'm posting this in both AARs. I would suggest that any base with HI have to have some Allied troops there to prevent this.

That's odd. A change in the latest patch maybe? (I do not use it). With the older patch I get the opposite effect - auto-flip preserves everything, even enemy aircraft plants and all the Manpower!

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/23/2017 2:25:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Warning: When you normally capture a base with Heavy Industry (HI), half of it is destroyed. However, if the base is empty of enemy troops or auto flips to Japan then it is totally destroyed [down to (0)1]. I had that happen to me at many bases in southern India. I'm posting this in both AARs. I would suggest that any base with HI have to have some Allied troops there to prevent this.


Scorched earth? We abandoned the base but blew up everything before we left?

Is this a problem just the with the mod, or more generally?

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/23/2017 3:06:09 PM   
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HI problem is with latest patch.

I use 2 of 3 Banshee groups while the 3rd trains. It will take until March/April b4 they can hit warships.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/23/2017 3:40:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I use 2 of 3 Banshee groups while the 3rd trains. It will take until March/April b4 they can hit warships.


Now you tell me? I've already set them up to have a go at the carriers. Who knows, maybe we'll get insanely lucky.

I've set up a bunch of bombers in mainland USA training naval bombing. Once they get up to 70, I'll transfer the pilots to the Banshee groups.

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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/24/2017 4:15:47 PM   
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Dec 11, 1941

Oh well, I needn’t have worried about the poor aim of my Banshee pilots because his carriers veer away, instead going for an airfield strike on Tarakan. Which is where our torpedo bombes had been operating from, until just the turn before.

The night starts with a bit of disappointment. A Dutch TF of 2 CLs and 4 DDs races into Manado, where a Japanese TF has just arrived. This is the perfect opportunity to destroy these guys before they can their troops off. But...nothing happens. The combat event logs shows this:

Task Force 339 encounters enemy Task Force at 75 , 99
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway


But there is no fight. Perhaps the Japanese ships managed to slip away in the darkness. So it looks like Manado is about to fall. The frustrated Dutch force instead takes it out on an xAK at Ternate, one that had previously taken a 1,000lb bomb.

The air action is concentrated over Palembang, as wave after wave of bombers tries to hit the landing forces. To no-one’s surprise, the Duitch bombers hit nothing. Even transports stopped dead in the water too unload are a bit too tough for these guys, and 12 bombers are lost for nothing. It is left to the Vildebees to do the business again, putting 4 bombs into one xAK and 3 bombs into another.

Ground combat, and the other three tank regiments arrive at Singapore, joining their friend who went over last time. I think they saw the immense glory being gained dying for the emperor and wanted in on the action.

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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1739 troops, 2 guns, 202 vehicles, Assault Value = 130

Defending force 21628 troops, 260 guns, 143 vehicles, Assault Value = 154

Japanese adjusted assault: 136

Allied adjusted defense: 249

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 45 (7 destroyed, 38 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
303 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 24 (13 destroyed, 11 disabled)


There is also a battle at Clark Field, where the Allies manage to hold despite taking a hammering. This is not too bad, as we’re abandoning the place anyway, and we needed one more to get the bulk of our troops out.

We hold on at Cagatan, giving the Kimura Detachment a small knock, and at Davao, although it's a very close run thing and should fall next turn to the Miura Detachment.

But the real shock comes at Ichang, where, to the general amazement of everyone concerned, the Chinese actually manage to win a battle. Look at the negatives on the Japanese side. I must say I didn’t think the Chinese were capable of storming level 3 forts in a single go, but apparently I was wrong. Loving those casualties for the Japanese. Hopefully the 34th Division will be licking its wounds for some time yet.

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Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 63013 troops, 349 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1686

Defending force 15828 troops, 116 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 517

Allied adjusted assault: 1504

Japanese adjusted defense: 254

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ichang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5072 casualties reported
Squads: 170 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 152 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 33 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 62 (49 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
1907 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 321 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
68th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps


I’m watching to see where the Japanese are going with their moves in China, but so far I haven’t seen anything as my troops race to defensible positions.


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RE: Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs ... - 11/24/2017 4:24:24 PM   
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Here's the situation in the DEI. I've circled the carrier groups in red. The oe in the China Sea is the ex-Ryujo force, which I assume is heading back to restock. The two in the Celebes are having a merry old time sinking transports.

I have concentrated one Indian division at Alor Star, and another at KL. Japanese tanks are in Singapore, and the follow up forces have just arrived at Johore. Assuming the tanks don't enough steam left to take Singapore by themselves after taking a bit of a hammering on the crossing, we've probably got another 3-4 days before Singapore falls. The northeastern coast of Borneo is gone, but the northwest hangs grimly on, with Kuching and Singkawang both still in Allied hands.

At the very bottom left is the PoW, starting its very long journey back to Cape Town.




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