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RE: 1942 March 28 - 4/25/2018 4:11:14 AM

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1942 March 28

FOR YOUR EYES ONLY

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RE: 1942 March 28 - 4/25/2018 5:47:30 PM

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Wasted sub patrols on the party of thy enemy....

This may be one of the best insights / tactics written of in AARs in many many months...

Certainly something new to me.

Clearly something for all PBEM players.

Perhaps many do it but never recorded as such

Fits in nicely - with your other lesson to me "time in patrol (subs) is critical".

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I did not recognize Argleton as the home of the school of dezinformatsiya

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RE: 1942 March 28 - 4/25/2018 6:11:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Wasted sub patrols on the party of thy enemy....

This may be one of the best insights / tactics written of in AARs in many many months...

Certainly something new to me.

Clearly something for all PBEM players.

Perhaps many do it but never recorded as such

Fits in nicely - with your other lesson to me "time in patrol (subs) is critical".

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I did not recognize Argleton as the home of the school of dezinformatsiya

It was Nemo who made the notion of "playing the player" the way to conduct the game. Most of the best players here try to get inside their opponent's head and play with his suppositions. Nasty, brilliant, stuff!

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RE: 1942 March 28 - 4/25/2018 6:24:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

Wasted sub patrols on the party of thy enemy....

This may be one of the best insights / tactics written of in AARs in many many months...

Certainly something new to me.

Clearly something for all PBEM players.

Perhaps many do it but never recorded as such

Fits in nicely - with your other lesson to me "time in patrol (subs) is critical".

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I did not recognize Argleton as the home of the school of dezinformatsiya

It was Nemo who made the notion of "playing the player" the way to conduct the game. Most of the best players here try to get inside their opponent's head and play with his suppositions. Nasty, brilliant, stuff!

You are quite right, but I want to point out there are two very different slices to this. One - which Walter and I very deliberately do not play - is the "off the board" game. That's a significant part of what you are quoting with Nemo's explanations. That is fine, but like other things both players have to be good with it, and we don't practice it. We do a little light banter here and there but purely as friendly comical interaction and there is never any attempt to lead/mislead/whatever "off the board".

This 'subs vs convoy routes' example is totally "on the board" which we both regard as fully part of the game.

There is nothing at all wrong with "off the board" play as long as the parties agree to that. I'm just clarifying what we are doing.

Now, will he buy it and for how long?!

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1942 March 29 - 4/26/2018 3:31:24 AM

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1942 March 29

INVADED
Amphibious TF 20 offshore of Singkep
Cebu, Samarinda, Batavia, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP

Overall
� No carrier sightings.

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Yard work.

Pacific
� Fuel unloading at Pago Pago.

� Nothing for certain:

quote:

KV Cyclamen detects Japanese Float Fighter at 132,160 near Suva
OS2U-3 Kingfisher reports shape below surface at 147, 163 near Pago Pago

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� Enemy sub activity near Sydney.

Philippines
� Hmmmmmmmm...

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� All of our bombers assigned to hit Oil at Balikpapan flew today but none of the fighters assigned to escort flew. The bombers were savaged as on most days and made no hits. We will try ordering the fighters to sweep.

China
� We are sneaking out two of the AVG squadrons to upgrade one (due to low pool of P-40B's) and get replacement aircraft for the other.

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
� The Imperials have caught our troops retreating toward Lashio. One unit might make it out before destruction time tomorrow.

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� 1 sub on station. No contacts.

Complete combat report attached.

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1942 March 30 - 4/27/2018 3:58:06 AM

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1942 March 30

INVADED
Airborne Assault --> Melak !!!
Airborne Assault --> Sampit !!!
Cebu, Samarinda, Batavia, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Singkep is occupied by the Japanese
Japanese forces CAPTURE Melak !!!
Japanese forces CAPTURE Sampit !!!

Overall
� No carrier sightings.

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Yard work.

Pacific
� Fuel unloading at Pago Pago.

� Enemy sub activity near Suva.

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� Enemy sub activity near Sydney.

Philippines
� Think positive thoughts.

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� Aliens! They came from the sky!

quote:

Ground combat at Melak (63,95)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 275 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Defending force 275 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5

Japanese adjusted assault: 15

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Melak !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1

Defending units:
II Samarinda Cdo

quote:

Ground combat at Sampit (58,97)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 288 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 9

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sampit !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /1

� Steamrolling across the island.

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Ground combat at 51,101 (near Tjilatjap)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 12606 troops, 104 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 357

Defending force 1369 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Japanese adjusted assault: 250

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 62 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: fatigue(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
395 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 32 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division

Defending units:
IX KNIL Battalion
Andir ML Base Force
A-III-Ld AA Battalion
Tjiitjap KM Base Force

� Our PT boat (singular) sortied, our bombers flew, our fighters swept (2 for 3). No hits.

China
� Punished for our success.

quote:

Low garrison leads to damage and 1 VP loss from partisan attack at Ichang (83, 48)!
Low garrison leads to damage and 1 VP loss from partisan attack at Sining (80, 32)!

� Grinding the defenses until ready for the next general assault I figure.

quote:

Ground combat at Lanchow (81,34)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22445 troops, 161 guns, 255 vehicles, Assault Value = 794

Defending force 23799 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 592

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 64

Allied adjusted defense: 481

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 7 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 73 (3 destroyed, 70 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
405 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment
26th Division

Defending units:
82nd Chinese Corps
81st Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
8th War Area
8th Chinese Base Force
21st Chinese Base Force

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
� The HQ stayed behind to cover the retreat.

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Ground combat at 60,46 (near Mandalay)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3789 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Defending force 1413 troops, 0 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 114

Allied adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
112th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
Burma Corps
Upper Burma BAF Battalion

� India is building and arming as fast as possible.

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� 1 sub on station. No contacts.

Complete combat report attached.

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RE: 1942 March 30 - 4/27/2018 3:58:40 AM

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1942 March 30

The main area of infiltration at the moment.

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1942 March 31 - 4/27/2018 7:39:16 PM

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1942 March 31

INVADED
Cebu, Batavia, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Ichang is occupied by the Japanese
Japanese forces CAPTURE Samarinda !!!

Overall
� No carrier sightings.

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Enemy sub activity east of Hawaii. 9 hexes east of Pearl Harbor:

quote:

Sub attack near Lahaina at 189,107

Japanese Ships
SS I-1

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes, Torpedo hits 1
DD Meredith

SS I-1 launches 4 torpedoes at CA Vincennes
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meredith attacking submerged sub ....
DD Meredith cannot reach attack position over SS I-1
SS I-1 eludes DD Meredith by diving deep
DD Meredith loses contact with SS I-1
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Vincennes' damage stands at 13-36(18)-0-0. She made 3 hexes after the attack and should make Pearl Harbor tomorrow.

Pacific
� Enemy sub activity near Suva/Nadi.

� Fuel unloading at Pago Pago.

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� Yard work.

Philippines
� Waiting. Will Cebu be kept as an aerial training target?

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� Two shattered squadrons of Falcon's went with the base. More than 1,800 refugees join more than 200 from Melak heading for Bandjermasin.

quote:

Ground combat at Samarinda (65,96)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7752 troops, 62 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 228

Defending force 3155 troops, 34 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 51

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 182

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Samarinda !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
CW-22 Falcon: 6 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1457 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (13 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
21st/B Division
21st/C Division

Defending units:
VI KNIL Battalion
VII KNIL Battalion
I Samarinda Cdo
Balikpapan MLD Base Force
Tarakan MLD Base Force
Balikpapan Defenses
1e-VLG-I Sup Afd

China
� The westernmost infiltrator has changed direction and is heading for a slightly stronger defensive position. It's clear it is a holding force.

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
�

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Ground combat at 60,46 (near Mandalay)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3789 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 125

Defending force 1205 troops, 0 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 103

Allied adjusted defense: 16

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
237 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
112th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
Burma Corps

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� 1 sub on station. No contacts.

Complete combat report attached.

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1942 April 01 - 4/29/2018 4:57:12 PM

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1942 April 01

INVADED
Amphibious TF 20 offshore of Muntok
Cebu, Batavia, Palembang, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Tambelan-eilanden is occupied by the Japanese

Overall
� No carrier sightings. Based on DL of a sub just north of the Strait of Malacca (5/5) and a sub near Nias on the other side of Sumatra (8/8) it is possible there is a carrier in the Srtait of Malacca.

� The Empire's amphibious invasion bonus has expired.

� Dang.

quote:

Previous report of sinking of CL Kiso incorrect. Intelligence reports ship is still in service

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Upgrades galore! Pearl Harbor shipyard is much over-subscribed, but we accept the queuing.

� 8 destroyers which upgraded in San Diego in March have finished and are on their way to San Francisco. From there they will escort a number of AP and AK carrying assigned invasion units from the West Coast to Pearl Harbor. Some units will not be able to leave the West Coast until bought out but we are staging everything we can far ahead of time.

Pacific
� Fuel unloading at Pago Pago.

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� A large aircraft & troop convoy is making its way around Tasmania on the way to Melbourne.

Philippines
� Cebu, Cebu.

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� Events are coming to a head. Clearly our strikes on Balikpapan have the Empire acutely worried.

quote:

Night Naval bombardment of Bandjermasin at 60,99

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Shirayuki
DD Usugumo
DD Umikaze
DD Yukikaze

Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Manpower hits 1
Resources hits 1
Fires 72
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 7
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

CL Nagara firing at S Borneo KNIL Battalion
DD Shirayuki firing at Bandjermasin
DD Usugumo firing at Bandjermasin
DD Umikaze firing at Bandjermasin
DD Yukikaze firing at Bandjermasin

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Night Naval bombardment of Bandjermasin at 60,99

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu
DD Fubuki
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Fires 67
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

CL Isuzu firing at Bandjermasin
DD Fubuki firing at Bandjermasin
DD Kawakaze firing at Bandjermasin
DD Yamakaze firing at Bandjermasin
DD Tokitsukaze firing at Bandjermasin

In spite of those rains of steel, our fighters swept and our bombers bombed.

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
DB-7B x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 Det B with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
Ryujo-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

� Our PT boat avoided destruction due to the sharp eyes of its elite crew. Note well this mine field was laid exclusively to intercept this lone PT boat!!!

quote:

TF 435 encounters mine field at 50,98

Allied Ships
TM-13

quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Kalidjati at 50,99, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze
DD Yakaze

Allied Ships
TM-13

Improved night sighting under 96% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 96% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages TM-13 at 11,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages TM-13 at 11,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages TM-13 at 11,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages TM-13 at 11,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages TM-13 at 11,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages TM-13 at 12,000 yards
DD Kamikaze engages TM-13 at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...

� There is finally an enemy unit at Palembang, which arrived after circling around to avoid auto-shock attacking across the river. Another unit still sits at Praboemoelih just to the SW.

China
� Good defense.

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Ground combat at Lanchow (81,34)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 29043 troops, 199 guns, 253 vehicles, Assault Value = 970

Defending force 23502 troops, 115 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 558

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 393

Allied adjusted defense: 535

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2446 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 296 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 28 (2 destroyed, 26 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1051 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 119 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 26 (1 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Ind.Mixed Brigade
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
26th Division

Defending units:
81st Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
8th Chinese Base Force
8th War Area
21st Chinese Base Force

� Yet another infiltration engages.

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Ground combat at 81,42 (near Ankang)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3882 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 532

Defending force 19987 troops, 119 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 567

Assaulting units:
32nd Division
138th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
14th Chinese Corps
36th Chinese Corps

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
� Imperials hot on the heels of our troops withdrawing to Lashio.

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� 1 sub on station. No contacts.

Complete combat report attached.

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1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:12:06 AM

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1942 April 02

INVADED
Cebu, Batavia, Palembang, Tanjoengbalai, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Muntok is occupied by the Japanese

Overall
� No carrier sightings.

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Yard work.

Pacific
� Fuel is unloading at Pago Pago.

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� Two of our subs in the Solomon Sea are showing strong detection.

� Large aircraft/troop convoy will pull into Melbourne tomorrow.

Philippines
� The most diabolical strategy has been adopted by the Empire here at Cebu: they are waiting for the population's next generation in the hope they will vote to flip sides.

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� Palembang recon.

quote:

Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4536 troops, 40 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 148

Defending force 2642 troops, 23 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th/B Division

Defending units:
Lahat Cdo
Palembang Cdo
Riouw Cdo
Palembang ML Base Force
PBg-Ld AA Afd

China
� Armour-only, so I guess we did OK.

quote:

Ground combat at 84,42 (near Sian)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4104 troops, 159 guns, 544 vehicles, Assault Value = 959

Defending force 45334 troops, 158 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 880

Japanese adjusted assault: 60

Allied adjusted defense: 2179

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 36

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 45 (2 destroyed, 43 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 73 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Regiment
36th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
37th Division
3rd Division
11th Tank Regiment
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
92nd Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
93rd Chinese Corps
98th Chinese Corps
4th Chinese Cavalry Corps

� The westernmost infiltrator is still moving on the 'new' crossing hex as mentioned recently. Just behind it the larger stack is moving on an adjacent crossing hex. We have two strong units dug in there waiting for them.

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
� The chase to Lashio is still on.

� Only two British units remain to cross the border out of Burma into India. Many units are still in the jungle inside India but as the last infantry unit should make it out of the jungle tomorrow (they are much faster in jungle) the support units should be safe from being cut off. The first two Chinese units are (still in Burma) in the hex adjacent to Ledo and will start taking replacements. Five more Chinese units are in Burma and one more in China. Their route will take them 2 hexes from any base in Burma and I hope they escape notice.

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� 1 sub on station. No contacts.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 2:25:46 PM

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Its time for me to reread everything on supply again. I have to wonder what
his infiltrators are receiving in this regard. I assume its coming from Nanyang.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 2:42:26 PM

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It's time for me to reread everything on supply again. I have to wonder what
his infiltrators are receiving in this regard. I assume it's coming from Nanyang.

The problem is that they don't need a lot. Really, not even any at all until or unless they are involved in actual combat. And even then, the risk is not all that high.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 3:42:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

It's time for me to reread everything on supply again. I have to wonder what
his infiltrators are receiving in this regard. I assume it's coming from Nanyang.

The problem is that they don't need a lot. Really, not even any at all until or unless they are involved in actual combat. And even then, the risk is not all that high.

The large stack is on the road, it's last hex. The "westernmost" is adjacent to them so only 1 hex off-road. Crossing the river puts the main stack off-road and the westernmost possibly out of supply but I haven't bothered to try and calculate it.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:13:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: jwolf

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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

It's time for me to reread everything on supply again. I have to wonder what
his infiltrators are receiving in this regard. I assume it's coming from Nanyang.

The problem is that they don't need a lot. Really, not even any at all until or unless they are involved in actual combat. And even then, the risk is not all that high.

The large stack is on the road, it's last hex. The "westernmost" is adjacent to them so only 1 hex off-road. Crossing the river puts the main stack off-road and the westernmost possibly out of supply but I haven't bothered to try and calculate it.

Just use the "5" key to see the supply flow from Nanyang. The numbers represent the theoretical amount that can arrive at each hex if you start with 100 at Nanyang. Note that competing demands for that supply may mean that less arrives because other units get some or all of it. But the AI tried not to let units starve so if they are truly out of supply I think they get a token amount each turn, if there is a supply path.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:26:43 PM

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I will try that but I thought the 5 key was disabled for PBM because it was leaking Intel about un-spotted units?

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:30:24 PM

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I will try that but I thought the 5 key was disabled for PBM because it was leaking Intel about un-spotted units?

You may be right. I haven't done a PBEM.
He could start a non-pbem game and check it out though. The numbers should be the same as they are based on calculations taking into account terrain and roads/rail.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:34:58 PM

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I will try that but I thought the 5 key was disabled for PBM because it was leaking Intel about un-spotted units?

You may be right. I haven't done a PBEM.
He could start a non-pbem game and check it out though. The numbers should be the same as they are based on calculations taking into account terrain and roads/rail.

It's not worth starting a game to do that, the formula was given by the developers. Here is what I have, after some editing as they made small changes after first releasing it.

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Each receiving base that is in range of a base that has excess supplies and needs supplies will get them.

1st. every base that needs 1x requirement gets 1x. So this is one big loop through all bases so as to get maximum coverage and that every base gets at least 1x previously this was 3x only. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement and if add supply is being used then sending base guards up to 4x.

2nd every base that can get 3x or some portion there of will get it. So this is another big loop to see if we can get bases up to at least 3x requirement. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement.

3rd. every base that is eligible for excess normally this is big major bases or bases with the highest spoilage limit previously there was no check before sending supplies to small bases. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement.

4th. One final big loop through all bases to resupply LCUs and whatever base the LCU is at is the only base it can draw supplies from previously there was no restriction. If LCU is in non-base hex or enemy then no restriction. Sending base will guard up to 20 supply points meaning if a unit can be supplied and base has it then unit gets it, previously base had to have above 3x.

In each big loop except for the 4th the amount that can be sent is modified by Prim HQ of base (just like witp) and if present adds an extra 25k to requirement and we check for max draw and we check spoilage limit at base receiving base.

How far a base can receive supplies is determined by tracing a supply cost path starting value used is 100 just like witp. There are three different ranges used throughout each week 89 which is very short range and happens 4 times a week, 49 which is medium range and happens twice a week and 10 which is long range which happens once per week. These values are the minimum required trace value from sending base to receiving base and the trace value must be equal to or greater than this to receive supplies so you may notice that some bases only get supplies 3 times or in some cases once per week.

Using the add supply button means first the base will try and get 1x requirement then during the 3x loop it will try and get 3x whatever is in that field so a base has 1000 normal requirement and I press the add supply to 1000 making new requirement of 2000 thus 1x + 3x = 2000 + 6,000 = 8,000 that the base will try and get.

Short range is trace value of 89 - 100 and is used 4 times per week.
Medium range is trace value 49 - 100 and is used 2 times per week.
Long range is trace value 10 - 100 and is used 1 time per week.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:36:43 PM

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I should add a receiving unit is treated the same as a receiving base for purposes of calculating the supply cost path.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:39:16 PM

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Here is a good terrain chart to use for the cost of hexes:

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:41:16 PM

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This one from the manual has roads, so maybe it's better.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 4:52:03 PM

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I have several units which escaped total destruction and are
walking back towards Chungking. If I get this style of "infiltration"
I will use them to assault the "leakers", try and burn their supply,
and with their ultimate sacrifice, rebuild at 1/3 strength at the
Capitol.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 4/30/2018 9:14:09 PM

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I will try that but I thought the 5 key was disabled for PBM because it was leaking Intel about un-spotted units?

Correct. Although dots do show I believe...just no numbers if I recall correctly.

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1942 April 03 - 5/1/2018 5:21:30 AM

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1942 April 03

INVADED
Amphibious TF 76 offshore of Bandjermasin
Cebu, Batavia, Palembang, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Tandjoengbalai is occupied by the Allies

Overall
� No carrier sightings.

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Yard work.

Pacific
� Enemy sub activity near Suva.

� Fuel unloading at Pago Pago.

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� Large aircraft/troop convoy has put in at Melbourne and will begin unloading tonight.

� All Australian units have finished infantry squad upgrades.

Philippines
� Cebu's population is working on that next generation.

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� We are flying what aircraft are ready out of Bandjermasin.

� The liberation of Sumatra has begun!

quote:

Tandjoengbalai is occupied by the Allies

The Tapanoeli Cdo is now moving on to Medan.

China
� Great result on the river crossing.

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Ground combat at 72,50 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 32810 troops, 264 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 1014

Defending force 22818 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 704

Japanese adjusted assault: 181

Allied adjusted defense: 2131

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 11

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
8172 casualties reported
Squads: 150 destroyed, 423 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 59 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 39 disabled
Guns lost 55 (11 destroyed, 44 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
535 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
116th Division
15th Division
39th/A Division

Defending units:
60th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
35th Group Army

Our guys are over stacked 25,688 on 25,000. Mouse-over shows 36,000 enemy infantry in the hex so the Empire should be pouring supplies in until it hurts. Our units' fatigue ratings are in single digits so I guess we got a very bad die roll on that minus.

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
� Soon we should have more subs along this convoy route.

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Sub attack near Phuket at 48,67

Japanese Ships
xAK Kaiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Keisyo Maru
DD Yamagumo

Allied Ships
SS Truant

SS Truant launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kaiko Maru
Truant diving deep ....
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

� All units have finished upgrading to Ind Inf Section 42 squads.

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� 1 sub on station. No contacts.

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RE: 1942 April 03 - 5/1/2018 11:02:23 AM

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One of the great conundrums of the game, when is it viable for the Chinese
to counter attack. It's easy to sit tight, harder to give the order. That's
a lot of disruption and he can't have a better supply situation than yesterday.
I know I would be hesitant, but it would definitely cross my mind....

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RE: 1942 April 03 - 5/1/2018 3:59:31 PM

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One of the great conundrums of the game, when is it viable for the Chinese
to counter attack. It's easy to sit tight, harder to give the order. That's
a lot of disruption and he can't have a better supply situation than yesterday.
I know I would be hesitant, but it would definitely cross my mind....

Crossed my mind too. My guys have meager supply there and also had a supply(-). With that and the overall situation, available forces, etc better to keep the strength and pin them there.

It looks like a bunch of Imperials are moving from the changsha area. To early to tell if they will be making a local end around there or if they will come to the western infiltration. If he does send more forces west I will have to move more forces there too.

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1942 April 04 - 5/2/2018 3:41:35 AM

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1942 April 04

INVADED
Amphibious TF 76 unloading at Bandjermasin
Amphibious TF 46 offshore of Cebu
Cebu, Batavia, Palembang, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP
Japanese forces CAPTURE Bandjermasin !!!

Overall
� No carrier sightings.

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Yard work.

� Loading a large fuel/supply convoy for New Zealand at Los Angeles.

Pacific
� Fuel unloading at Pago Pago.

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� Enemy sub activity near Sydney.

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Sub attack near Port Kembla at 90,170

Japanese Ships
SS I-175, hits 1

Allied Ships
APD Bulmer, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD Alden

SS I-175 launches 2 torpedoes at APD Bulmer
APD Alden fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Alden fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Alden fails to find sub, continues to search...
APD Alden attacking submerged sub ....
APD Alden is out of ASW ammo
APD Alden fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

With 95 flotation damage, Bulmer is in escort with three other APD's to try and make Sydney.

� The aircraft/troop convoy is almost completely unloaded at Melbourne.

Philippines
� More enemy coming ashore at Cebu.

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5600 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 196

Defending force 9901 troops, 73 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 393

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu Constabulary
1st Port Maint Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
146th Infantry Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Rgt /1
47th Infantry Rgt /1

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� Last base on Borneo.

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Ground combat at Bandjermasin (60,99)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4050 troops, 37 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 126

Defending force 1435 troops, 4 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 32

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 99

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bandjermasin !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed
DB-7B: 3 destroyed
Do-24K-1: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1278 casualties reported
Squads: 31 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 80 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
21st/A Division

Defending units:
S Borneo KNIL Battalion
Oelin ML Base Force

� Blasting slowly across Java.

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Ground combat at 52,101 (near Semarang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 12674 troops, 104 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 364

Defending force 733 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 279

Allied adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 139 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
373 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 3
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division

Defending units:
A-III-Ld AA Battalion
IX KNIL Battalion
Andir ML Base Force
Tjiitjap KM Base Force

China
� Lanchow, under siege, has built fortifications back to 2.

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
� I really haven't the slightest idea how this group held off the Imperials, but somehow they did.

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Ground combat at 61,46 (near Lashio)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4070 troops, 32 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 255

Defending force 1182 troops, 0 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 13

Allied adjusted defense: 16

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
112th Infantry Regiment
33rd/B Division

Defending units:
Upper Burma BAF Battalion
Burma Corps

� More success!

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Sub attack near Phuket at 47,69

Japanese Ships
xAK Kaiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Trusty

xAK Kaiko Maru is sighted by SS Trusty
SS Trusty launches 2 torpedoes

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� 1 sub on station. no contacts, DL 7/7.

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1942 April 05 - 5/3/2018 6:23:43 PM

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1942 April 05

INVADED
Amphibious TF 46 unloading at Cebu
Amphibious TF 20 offshore of Toboali
Cebu, Batavia, Palembang, Djokjakarta, Urumchi, Changsha, Lanchow are also invested.

CHANGED OWNERSHIP

Overall
� No carrier sightings.

� Lexginton's fighters have upgraded to F4F-4, so now all of the carriers' fighter squadrons are Wildcat's of one mark or another.

West Coast USA, Alaska, Hawaii
� Enemy sub activity near Pearl Harbor.

Pacific
� Fuel unloading at Pago Pago.

New Zealand, Australia, New Caledonia, New Hebrides, Solomons, Papua New Guinea, New Britain
� Enemy sub activity near Sydney. APD Bulmer and rescuers have made one hex (three to go) and flotation damage is 95(59).

� Supply unloading at Melbourne. Some of the aircraft unloaded moved immediately by rail and have arrived at Brisbane and Charters Towers.

Philippines
� The Empire has grown weary with our population turnover rate.

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Ground combat at Cebu (80,86)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12095 troops, 84 guns, 17 vehicles, Assault Value = 401

Defending force 5618 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 199

Japanese adjusted assault: 227

Allied adjusted defense: 225

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
263 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
554 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 53 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
47th Infantry Regiment
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment

Defending units:
81st PA Infantry Division
Cebu Constabulary
1st Port Maint Engineer Battalion

DEI, Dutch new Guinea, Borneo, Malaya
� Our aircraft (and PT boat) continue to attack and continue to be stymied. Road marches are slowing the Empire's advnace as much as we are.

China
� The westernmost infiltrator has vanished, either a recon weakness of the nearby LCU's or a withdrawal?? Have to wait and see.

India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina
� Only one base force remains in Burma and it should cross the Indian border in two or three days.

� Many units, and now more, are taking replacements for Indian infantry squads.

Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Russia
� No subs on station.

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RE: 1942 April 05 - 5/3/2018 6:24:04 PM

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The fearsome defense has caused the pursuing Imperials to wait for reinforcements before attacking again.

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RE: 1942 April 02 - 5/3/2018 8:32:00 PM

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Each receiving base that is in range of a base that has excess supplies and needs supplies will get them.

1st. every base that needs 1x requirement gets 1x. So this is one big loop through all bases so as to get maximum coverage and that every base gets at least 1x previously this was 3x only. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement and if add supply is being used then sending base guards up to 4x.

2nd every base that can get 3x or some portion there of will get it. So this is another big loop to see if we can get bases up to at least 3x requirement. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement.

3rd. every base that is eligible for excess normally this is big major bases or bases with the highest spoilage limit previously there was no check before sending supplies to small bases. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement.

4th. One final big loop through all bases to resupply LCUs and whatever base the LCU is at is the only base it can draw supplies from previously there was no restriction. If LCU is in non-base hex or enemy then no restriction. Sending base will guard up to 20 supply points meaning if a unit can be supplied and base has it then unit gets it, previously base had to have above 3x.

In each big loop except for the 4th the amount that can be sent is modified by Prim HQ of base (just like witp) and if present adds an extra 25k to requirement and we check for max draw and we check spoilage limit at base receiving base.

How far a base can receive supplies is determined by tracing a supply cost path starting value used is 100 just like witp. There are three different ranges used throughout each week 89 which is very short range and happens 4 times a week, 49 which is medium range and happens twice a week and 10 which is long range which happens once per week. These values are the minimum required trace value from sending base to receiving base and the trace value must be equal to or greater than this to receive supplies so you may notice that some bases only get supplies 3 times or in some cases once per week.

Using the add supply button means first the base will try and get 1x requirement then during the 3x loop it will try and get 3x whatever is in that field so a base has 1000 normal requirement and I press the add supply to 1000 making new requirement of 2000 thus 1x + 3x = 2000 + 6,000 = 8,000 that the base will try and get.

Short range is trace value of 89 - 100 and is used 4 times per week.
Medium range is trace value 49 - 100 and is used 2 times per week.
Long range is trace value 10 - 100 and is used 1 time per week.

Thanks for summing up this information, but I have a few questions beyond this:

1) Does anyone know what determines the sequence in which the loops are processed

a) with respect to the distributing base? (possibly base ID ?)

b) with repect to recieving bases while a given distributing base is analyzed? (possibly base ID? or weighted distance, so base with need which is closest to 100 comes first ?)

2) Does anyone know how the counter to determine whether it is a short range, medium range or long range delivery day works? Is it global for all bases and works like an assignment to the days of the week (like Short on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday; medium on Tuesday and sturday, long ond Thursday?) Or is it local, i.e. different for different bases on the list?

3) Does anyone know whether the "stockpile" button does anything apart from taking the unit from the list for the distribution loop? Specifically, does it affect transfer of supply to bases if their supply route would run through the base set to stockpile supplies ? I think I have read that the corresponding switch for resources is believed to have an influence.

4) Does anyone know if resource/oil transfer works the same way? My intuitive answer would be "no", because my feeling is that it takes a bit of manipulation to make it flow into the right direction.

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RE: 1942 April 05 - 5/3/2018 8:48:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: hartwig.modrow

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Each receiving base that is in range of a base that has excess supplies and needs supplies will get them.

1st. every base that needs 1x requirement gets 1x. So this is one big loop through all bases so as to get maximum coverage and that every base gets at least 1x previously this was 3x only. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement and if add supply is being used then sending base guards up to 4x.

2nd every base that can get 3x or some portion there of will get it. So this is another big loop to see if we can get bases up to at least 3x requirement. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement.

3rd. every base that is eligible for excess normally this is big major bases or bases with the highest spoilage limit previously there was no check before sending supplies to small bases. Sending base will not send any supplies that would dip into its own 3x requirement.

4th. One final big loop through all bases to resupply LCUs and whatever base the LCU is at is the only base it can draw supplies from previously there was no restriction. If LCU is in non-base hex or enemy then no restriction. Sending base will guard up to 20 supply points meaning if a unit can be supplied and base has it then unit gets it, previously base had to have above 3x.

In each big loop except for the 4th the amount that can be sent is modified by Prim HQ of base (just like witp) and if present adds an extra 25k to requirement and we check for max draw and we check spoilage limit at base receiving base.

How far a base can receive supplies is determined by tracing a supply cost path starting value used is 100 just like witp. There are three different ranges used throughout each week 89 which is very short range and happens 4 times a week, 49 which is medium range and happens twice a week and 10 which is long range which happens once per week. These values are the minimum required trace value from sending base to receiving base and the trace value must be equal to or greater than this to receive supplies so you may notice that some bases only get supplies 3 times or in some cases once per week.

Using the add supply button means first the base will try and get 1x requirement then during the 3x loop it will try and get 3x whatever is in that field so a base has 1000 normal requirement and I press the add supply to 1000 making new requirement of 2000 thus 1x + 3x = 2000 + 6,000 = 8,000 that the base will try and get.

Short range is trace value of 89 - 100 and is used 4 times per week.
Medium range is trace value 49 - 100 and is used 2 times per week.
Long range is trace value 10 - 100 and is used 1 time per week.

Thanks for summing up this information, but I have a few questions beyond this:

1) Does anyone know what determines the sequence in which the loops are processed

a) with respect to the distributing base? (possibly base ID ?)

b) with repect to recieving bases while a given distributing base is analyzed? (possibly base ID? or weighted distance, so base with need which is closest to 100 comes first ?)

I think they run in both directions of whatever list they use. Whether that is each time or on alternate times I am not sure - I don't remember precisely what they wrote, but I do recall they mentioned going in both directions so that the same bases (/units) don't get shortchanged every time.

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2) Does anyone know how the counter to determine whether it is a short range, medium range or long range delivery day works? Is it global for all bases and works like an assignment to the days of the week (like Short on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday; medium on Tuesday and sturday, long ond Thursday?) Or is it local, i.e. different for different bases on the list?

I believe it is universal (i.e. a 'long pull' day is a long pull day all over the map) but I don't know the specific schedule.

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3) Does anyone know whether the "stockpile" button does anything apart from taking the unit from the list for the distribution loop? Specifically, does it affect transfer of supply to bases if their supply route would run through the base set to stockpile supplies ? I think I have read that the corresponding switch for resources is believed to have an influence.

AFAIK and understand they go base to base dependent on range, so bases in between the two bases being calculated at that instant have no effect. That is just my understanding and could be wrong.

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4) Does anyone know if resource/oil transfer works the same way? My intuitive answer would be "no", because my feeling is that it takes a bit of manipulation to make it flow into the right direction.

I think it does. Anybody? Bueller? Beuller?