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OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 4:20:55 AM

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OK. It is time to separate the players from the GEEKS. Who has their Stars Wars tickets for TOMORROW night?

The Cochran Clan will be watching it tomorrow night at 10:30pm. It WILL rock! I've never missed an Opening Day/Pre-Open for 40 years of this series and cannot wait for tomorrow.

Who else is going?

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 4:41:10 AM

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?? My eldest saw it at 0001 this morning, are you guys on a delay over there?

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 10:08:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

OK. It is time to separate the players from the GEEKS. Who has their Stars Wars tickets for TOMORROW night?

The Cochran Clan will be watching it tomorrow night at 10:30pm. It WILL rock! I've never missed an Opening Day/Pre-Open for 40 years of this series and cannot wait for tomorrow.

Who else is going?

I mandated my son to attend for me.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 12:08:15 PM

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I watched the Italian premiere in Milan yesterday with my daughters.

NO SPOILERS

At 2h30m the movie is too long. I could see in real time whole scenes and subplots which should have been left on the cutting room floor. This is the movie biggest weakness.

OTOH, the last 30 mins or so were really, really tense (another reason to be left perplexed by all the unnecessary padding). There was a twist a minute: some a bit arbitrary but some really cool. Ironically, one of the best also deprived the fans of another scene that everyone was waiting for - but the rug pulling was hard with this one.

Star Wars wise it was... dunno: half and half. For sure it was not "The Empire Strikes Back". Also, the plot often relied on fortuitous coincidences and "the cavalry arrives!"-scenes which were stunningly convenient. And some scenes were "disneyfied" to the point that they made "Frozen" look like a dark and serious drama (no, the Porg were actually cute; a pleasant surprise).

The acting was quite good all around, with Adam Driver, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Andy Serkis (as Snoke: one day they will recognise the bravura that this guy puts in his thankless job) being on top. The direction by Ryan Johnson "grounded" the movie in pseudo-realistic ambiences. Still, Johnson also showed a lot of visual flair, even managing to film lightsaber battles in a truly original way. There are a lot of ways to use a lightsaber, and Johnson showed us how we saw only a few in the previous movies (I also liked how he mostly kept the camera away from the clashes, so that the audience could follow and admire the unique choreographies).

At the end all is good in The Last Jedi - the acting, the cinematography, the direction... except the script. When it is good, it is great. When it isn't, it is either boring and arresting, or flatly bad (it was, however, also very funny, and Domhnall Gleeson ruled as the Monthy Pythonesque General Hux

). Some of the mysteries left from "The Force Awakens" are addressed - and some in a satisfactory way, some in a perplexing one (like if Ryan Johnson had a lot of material he had to address and got rid of some of it as fast as possible; it was known that J.J. Abrams, as usual, had created "mysteries" to which not even him had an answer).

All in all, it was not totally original but it was also not totally an embarrassing "copy&paste" like "The Force Awakens" (even if a couple of key moments were copy & paste).

But, at the end of the day, those last 30 minutes are really worth it.

My vote: 6/7 on 10

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 12:25:28 PM

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Daddy Daughter Star Wars Date Day is set for Sunday.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 1:40:16 PM

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I am starting to get the "oriental patience" of those who know how crazy big openings can be and can wait for things to settle down. Afternoon matinees during the week mean good seats and no stiff neck from looking up at the screen (or left or right).
Many years ago I was wow'd by the SFX stuff, but now I look forward to good acting by the key characters. Of course, seeing more acrobatics from Daisy Ridley is on the list of acting chops I am looking forward to!

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 1:58:18 PM

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My son has finals starting Saturday ( who does finals on a freakin weekend?!?). Probably go next week.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 3:50:28 PM

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We have our tickets in hand for the premier tonight at 1900.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 10:30:23 PM

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I keep showing up for casting calls. Last time some wise guy said "green is definitely not the new black".

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/14/2017 11:52:47 PM

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My wife and I are going Sunday morning. We bought the tickets 2 months ago.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 4:05:32 AM

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My boys are going tomorrow night. If they say it's really good, wife and I will go later. I thought the most recent two really weren't very good.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 10:12:28 AM

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Hi all,

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ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

We have our tickets in hand for the premier tonight at 1900.

I will take my wife next week (I hate the "rush" of the first week)...

BTW, this will give us opportunity to watch the "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" again before watching the new one...

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 12:31:33 PM

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Me and the kids tomorrow morning

Wife not remotely interested

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 1:29:03 PM

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GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!! I'm a huge fan to begin with, but I was thrilled and blown away by The Last Jedi! Quite likely my favorite of all 9 films so far. I'll be going back to the theater to see it again soon!

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 2:12:16 PM

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I really enjoyed Rogue One...

The best part of Rogue One was that it turned Darth Vader "back" into the villian that I knew and grew up with.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 2:23:23 PM

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I am probably going to skip this one.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 2:31:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My boys are going tomorrow night. If they say it's really good, wife and I will go later. I thought the most recent two really weren't very good.

From what I hear the new one has loads of special effects stuff like the last two, but the new director really made the characters come to life. So you might hate the action stuff and like the actual acting.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/15/2017 10:23:02 PM

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i just saw it. I haven't decided if I like it yet

It does have nice refer-backs to earlier films.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/17/2017 8:38:15 AM

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I've been an SF geek from an early age. Grew up watching Star Trek and saw most if not all the SF shows of the 70s and 80s growing up. I also read SF voraciously until the internet came along. I never got into Star Wars though. I saw Episodes 4-6 once each back when they initially came out, but I haven't seen anything the franchise has produced since.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/17/2017 1:10:16 PM

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Really liked this . Went with my daughter but felt like a 14 year old for 2 1/2 hours. The director dispenses with much of the heavy , weighty B.S. and brings the humor back to the franchise. Movie is bracketed with 2 great space battles but plenty of fun and action in between. Really nice to see whole families at the movies. I was worried the little ones would get fidgety , but not a peep of fussiness but plenty of Ohhhs and ahhhs in all the right places. It's a Star Wars movie....treat yourself

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 4:03:48 PM

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Last Jedi was a bad movie.

Director made up stuff to move the 500 plot lines along, then discarded the stuff when it wasn't convenient.

1/3rd of the movie was completely irrelevant to the story.

The 'fake-out' death at the beginning was really poorly done and in extremely poor taste.

When it comes to the Kylo/Luke/Rey/Snoke plot, the director forgot he was directing Act 2 instead of Act 3.

The director let a vision of the special effects drive the story, instead of having the story drive the special effects.

The director left a big mess for JJ Abrams to clean up in Episode X.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 4:05:56 PM

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I find your lack of faith in Disney disturbing.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 4:13:36 PM

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quote:

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Last Jedi was a bad movie.

Director made up stuff to move the 500 plot lines along, then discarded the stuff when it wasn't convenient.

1/3rd of the movie was completely irrelevant to the story.

The 'fake-out' death at the beginning was really poorly done and in extremely poor taste.

When it comes to the Kylo/Luke/Rey/Snoke plot, the director forgot he was directing Act 2 instead of Act 3.

The director let a vision of the special effects drive the story, instead of having the story drive the special effects.

The director left a big mess for JJ Abrams to clean up in Episode X.

You must have left your inner child at home.

It's Episode IX, not X, that comes next. Rogue One is Episode III.5

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 4:53:34 PM

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My inner child was with me. She's 12 :)

After Force Awakens, she talked non-stop for about 2 days over it. After this one, only about 30 mins.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 4:58:29 PM

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No prisoners, no mercy, � but wait, here comes a solitary x-wing fighter that is hailing us. .. Forget about that last edict for a few minutes, because we really need to pause so that itty bitty ship can knock out our cannons and make this a fair and square battle. Don�t launch any tie-fighters to keep an eye on this single fighter, we don�t need em. We are obviously incapable of learning the lessons that doomed the Death Star...twice. And oh yeah, while we can detect transmissions between the old-school rebel cruiser and the x-wing fighter, it�s completely believable that the reb cruiser can�t communicate with us, just this puny fighter can�.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 4:59:08 PM

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This 3rd trilogy needed Thrawn, not Hux.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 5:29:58 PM

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SPOILERS - Who would have thought that all along, Yoda could use force-lightning, you know, a decidedly Sith-type force power?

It�s irrelevant stupid �didn�t think this one through� stuff like this, that is completely 100% unnecessary to the movie, so the director can put some �spashy visuals� on the screen, the ruins Last Jedi.

It would have been just as effective, and far more �Star Wars� for Yoda to have picked the Jedi books and force-moved them into a fire. But wait, �lifting rocks� isn�t �dazzling eye-candy� so �force lightning from a Jedi it is��

The director let his idea of special effects drive the story, instead of letting the story drive the special effects� and that�s what makes Last Jedi a bad Star Wars movie.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 5:41:38 PM

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I kept waiting for Jar-jar Binks to appear.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 8:22:56 PM

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I keep showing up for casting calls. Last time some wise guy said "green is definitely not the new black".

Didn't I see you in episode III? I was impressed that you got Leia to wear that awesome outfit. Kudos! Of course-I didn't know how to say this-you look like you put on a few pounds for the role.

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RE: OT: The Last Jedi - 12/18/2017 8:25:01 PM

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I've been an SF geek from an early age. Grew up watching Star Trek and saw most if not all the SF shows of the 70s and 80s growing up. I also read SF voraciously until the internet came along. I never got into Star Wars though. I saw Episodes 4-6 once each back when they initially came out, but I haven't seen anything the franchise has produced since.

Bill

My wife grew up with one of the Authors of The Expanse series. Sci Fi channel has shown the first two seasons and the third is set to begin in January, IIRC. For true connoisseurs of Sci Fi, I'd strongly recommend this.

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