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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/9/2018 10:52:45 PM   
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Turn 142
24th January 1942


I continue to try and trade space for time - albeit I am conscious that my enemy has plenty of time and, for me, space is running out..... My front line is not far from Sidi Barrani now...

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 3:28:40 AM   
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Turn 142
24th January 1942


I continue to try and trade space for time - albeit I am conscious that my enemy has plenty of time and, for me, space is running out..... My front line is not far from Sidi Barrani now...


Continue to really enjoy yr AAR's!

Would it be dumb to think of falling back all the way to Alamein? I guess it would mess with his supply ...

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 6:01:30 AM   
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Turn 142
24th January 1942


I continue to try and trade space for time - albeit I am conscious that my enemy has plenty of time and, for me, space is running out..... My front line is not far from Sidi Barrani now...


Continue to really enjoy yr AAR's!

Would it be dumb to think of falling back all the way to Alamein? I guess it would mess with his supply ...
warspite1

Hi Szilard. Not having played the game as the Axis beyond Turn 5, I don't know what devoncop's supply situation is like, but I'm guessing that having Tobruk makes a big (and sadly positive) difference.

The reason I don't want to fall back too quickly is two-fold; a) If he breaks through there then I've got nowhere I can contain him so that is my last resort, and b) as seen everywhere so far, the massive amount of artillery at his disposal means I doubt I could hold El Alamein anymore than I could hold Tobruk or Halfaya or indeed any of the stop lines I've tried since. He simply rocks up and opens up a massive barrage - and one full turn of that costs losses I can't replace for a dozen turns.

Previously I had units to surprise him with a flank attack. With the loss of the key units the CW has recently suffered, I have no ability to mount such a counter-attack and the advantage of surprise has gone anyway.

I am building my air forces back up (although even that is subject to withdrawals) but it is taking forever - I am still angry at the loss of those four Blenheim squadrons for no earthly reason I can think of - and the program really hates the Hurricane! So at present, no air force, there will be no more battleships and so a much reduced navy, and an army that is devoid of the required infantry, armour and artillery.

But am I defeated? Am I down-hearted? Am I beaten?........ well yes actually - fun times!

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 12:50:39 PM   
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Turn 143 - (Axis Turn - in real time)
28th January 1942


We get to Move 118 and I see the Ariete Division Bersaglieri HQ evaporate. Once again I've got no idea how or why this happens. There is no attack and I have no aircraft. Very, very strange.

Units move up to and beyond Sidi (I can still only see the units in this town and not anywhere else).

The camera then pans out and I can see some more probing of my units in the desert south of Mersah Matruh.

There are then some moves around Bardia and Tobruk before a series of invisible moves that take the move-counter to 1,471.

Then another evaporation - and this time its the 21st Panzer's 104th Sch HQ

More invisible moves - now up to 2006.

Wow - about a dozen aircraft on the move too....

But then that is it. A turn reprieve from the shelling



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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 1:53:55 PM   
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Turn 143
28th January 1942


I fall back another two hexes in the west. The Kiwis disappear next turn so I have taken them out of the line in preparation.

My air forces continue to slowly recover and now have 36 paper squadrons - although the actual strength is equal to only 31 and includes Albacore, Gladiator and Tomahawk squadrons that won't ever replenish. My 17 Hurricane squadrons are still 55 aircraft short of authorised strength.....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 4:16:23 PM   
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Turn 144 - Axis Turn (in real time)
31st January 1942


Annoyingly I can't really see what is going on. I can only see in the bottom right hand corner of the screen that the Italians have pulled up to my troops in the southwest corner of the line.

Ah, now it moves! Once again devoncop is using his base units as cheap and cheerful recce outfits. This appears to find nothing and so the Italian motorcyclists are sent in and find my southern outpost....

He calls in a load of his chums... and to the northwest, other outposts are being probed...

Interestingly I can see a lot of units passing through Sidi Barrani and these are heading south before moving out of sight.....

Okay this is serious now as panzer units are involved in the south. With every move my position gets more worrying.

More panzers... Uh-oh...

A ton of non-visible moves and then the bombardments starts - I can't make out where yet.


When I switch back to my go I can see what I was viewing more clearly. The one bombardment was very costly and all my XIII Corps units have gone into reorganisation so there will be no moving back this turn...



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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 4:42:52 PM   
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Turn 144
31st January 1942


I will lose the Kiwis next turn. I decide that they will go out either in glory - or glorious failure and order the entire 2nd NZ Division south.

The big question is whether or not to call in the only armour I have in the south? (Edit: I decide the answer to that is a resounding no!).

What is clear is that I need to bring my air force back into the fray. I am still well short of the required strength but if the Germans get through my thin crust in the south then its all over anyway. I make all bar 2 squadrons operational. That is on paper a force of 35 squadrons - 26 fighter and 9 bomber squadrons.... I even get air superiority 13 vs 12!

Ever mindful of force proficiency failures, I start the turn with bombardments of the southwest corner - and the only units my forces can see here.




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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 6:13:06 PM   
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Turn 144
31st January 1942


After some bombardment I decide its time to attack - after all, I have air superiority, my airfields are closer to the action than the Axis, its a sure thing right?




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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 6:41:32 PM   
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Turn 144
31st January 1942


In the northern battle a mixed force of Kiwis and Indians from the 5th Indian Division force back an Italian reconnaissance regiment with roughly equal losses.

To the south and all Kiwi force attacks a German infantry battalion and a flak unit with it. A battalion of Bersaglieri from the Sabratha Division enter the battle but can't stop the flak unit being eliminated and both remaining battalions retreat. Troop losses are higher for the attackers but the ground is won.......

However....for the attack I ordered 5 Blenheim squadrons to support (max available). 499 fighters join the 143 bombers (the Boston squadron also flies) and is intercepted by just 117 fighters 20% of which are Me-109's (18% are Me-110's and another 20% are bi-planes). The Germans lose 70% of their force - 82 aircraft (28 destroyed) while the CW lose 61 (11 destroyed). Half of the losses are Hurricanes and suddenly my air superiority goes to inferiority 7 vs 9.....




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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/10/2018 6:49:58 PM   
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Turn 144
31st January 1942


The final attacks are ordered against the Germans in the north Bombardments are also ordered against the Italians to the south and the HQ and supporting units to the rear. The losses are again roughly even but once again the Germans retreat - joining up the New Zealand infantry (albeit temporarily).

A reasonable turn but could have done without losing so many Hurricanes as usual. In addition to the 3 land attacks there were 29 bombardments and losses to the infantry units was reasonably high - although none were evaporated sadly.

What will be interesting now is what devoncop has to exploit the gap left by the departing Kiwis.... or will he strike in the west too?


Picture taken before final round.



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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 6:31:20 AM   
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Turn 145 - Axis Turn (in real time)
4th February 1942


Okay so let's see how devoncop reacts to that last limited engagement - and specifically when he sees that the 2nd New Zealand Division have retired stage right!

The turn starts with him making use of the fact I couldn't retreat - and Italian units are pushing right up to my western line in the south. They are massing in large numbers and so assume this will be an attack.

The rest of the line is filling up now and these aren't just screening units judging by the numbers of units in each hex....

To the south now and German forces are pushing into the gap left by the Kiwis...




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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 6:43:32 AM   
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Turn 145 - Axis Turn (in real time)
4th February 1942


More units continue to pile into the gaps in the south - and there almost all German. This is serious. I suspect an attack in the west and south combined here.

This is a serious offensive in the south - he has a lot of units here....

He surrounds and destroys my Punjabis - there is now nothing to stop him taking the 50th Division from the rear....

My southernmost 5th Indian outpost (on the northern boundary of the Qattara Depression) is completely isolated and about to get surrounded, while to the north a company of Royal Fusiliers from that Division are pushed back.

Bombardments open up in the west

Reinforcements continue around the Tobruk area and I see one of these is a panzer battalion.

There are then tons of invisible moves (they're now up to 1,305).

The southern front is now under pressure too...




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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 7:00:37 AM   
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Turn 145 - Axis Turn (in real time)
4th February 1942


This is like car crash TV

Massed bombardments being laid down in the west and southwest now.

A panzer battalion is spotted on the coastal road too.

In the south the next domino is attacked and retreats and the previously retreated Royal Fusilier company evaporates.

Some good news at last as an Italian biplane squadron evaporates.

More bombardments in the southwest corner

More aircraft being flown in including an Me-109 squadron that lands at Zawyet Shammus..... great....

More bombardments in the southwest (that is going to be a mess - but I still think an attack will come before the end of the turn).

Or maybe not.... that is the end of the playback. Right lets inspect the damage...

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 7:08:52 AM   
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Turn 145 - Axis Turn
4th February 1942


Right there were 17 actions - 3 land attacks, 13 bombardments and the furball (not including any pre-combat attacks).

The first air attack is a strange one as it is made against a lone company of infantry from the Royal Fusiliers heading along the coastal path near El Alamein. 46 bombers fly, escorted by 12 Italian fighters.

The infantry losses are 4 rifle/machine gun squads and 2 mortars (the unit is also reorganising now). 28 Hurricane fighters fly to assist and lose 4 (0 destroyed). The cost to the Axis was 8 aircraft (2 destroyed).

The first land attack, against a company of the 3rd/2nd Punjab Battalion, was another debacle for the Allied air force. 16 German fighters and 23 Italian biplanes assisted the attackers against 20 Blenheims and 28 Hurricanes. No prizes for guessing what happened next As always the Hurricanes and Blenheim suffer, losing 13 aircraft (3 destroyed) while the Axis air forces lose just 5 (and only 1 biplane destroyed). Really, really unimpressed by this. The bombers cleared didn't even get through as the Indians retreated almost destroyed while there was not a single loss to Italian ground troops....

In the last land attack that saw the Royal Fusilier company retreat (prior to being destroyed presumably on pre-attack combat) and it was pleasing to see the Germans actual lose two tanks (1 x PzKw IV destroyed). There was more air action too. 46 bombers were escorted by 41 Italian fighters. 41 fighters were sent to intercept. The British lost 8 (4 destroyed) while the Germans lost 22 (6 destroyed).

As expected the CW artillery losses are prohibitive - one hex lost a quarter of its 25-pounders in one barrage, while in another, more than one third of the 30 field guns were lost....

In an air strike in the southwest corner 48 Italian bombers were sent to attack, supported by 9 Me-110 and 36 biplanes. 72 CW fighters were called in to assist. That has to be carnage for the Axis right? Well not really. The attack got through and 15 squads were lost as well as a quarter of the 41 field guns. The Loss Report numbers for the aircraft don't actually add up (I will take the individual numbers and ignore the false(?) total losses column). On that basis if I add the disabled and destroyed columns together I get 11 losses (6 destroyed). For the Axis the numbers (which also don't add up) are 33 losses (but just 7 destroyed). Given the aircraft being flown, 1 more destroyed aircraft for the CW forces is really, really disappointing.

In the final air battle 30 Hurricanes try and intercept 24 Italian bombers that are escorted by 41 Italian fighters (one third biplanes). The bombers fail to get through at a cost of 6 aircraft (just two destroyed). The CW suffer the same number of losses (1 destroyed).

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 7:52:40 AM   
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4th February 1942


This is a pretty impossible time for the CW. I've just lost my only intact (almost) infantry division - and I will lose the rest of 70th Division in two turns.....

As if that is not bad enough, the air situation is just a joke. I send my units into battle with air superiority last turn. My airfields are closer to the frontline than the Axis who only have one really close airfield (Zawyet Shammus). But I almost immediately lose air superiority and now, no less than 23 of my 38 squadrons are reorganising! After one turn.....

...and we can't have a turn without reorganising for the army either. Now its the 5th Indian Division. Fortunately that 'division' is in reality only one brigade - or significantly less than that now

Right now I've got that off my chest I'll try and stop freakin' moaning and try and decide what the hell I can do about this situation. Its like France 1940 all over again. If the Germans get to the coast then my whole army is trapped.

I wonder what his supply is doing? From what I can see its all pretty good

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 8:19:27 AM   
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Turn 145
4th February 1942


Options: The Obvious thing to do is to retreat in the west to shorten the line. The problem with that of course is I don't know how many units will actually get extracted - and how many will rout and get destroyed anyway.

But if I don't take that option, what will happen? Well my units will simply be bombarded into oblivion a la Tobruk and Halfaya etc.

A second option would be to attack but that is fraught with uncertainty and I just don't have the infantry (or the armour for that matter) to make a breakthrough - and that still leaves time for the attacking units.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 8:28:25 AM   
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May we see a picture of the situation, like an overhead shot?

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 8:47:20 AM   
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May we see a picture of the situation, like an overhead shot?
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Comin' up


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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 12:03:56 PM   
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Turn 145
4th February 1942


The woeful state of the Commonwealth forces is brought into focus by this snapshot. No unit is at full strength - many 'Divisions' are simply brigades, and the army lacks artillery of all sorts - especially anti-tank and field artillery.


Note: reference to under-strength does not take into account actual losses within units - under-strength refers to the fact that units do not have the required no. of brigades, regiments or battalions. So the actual picture is even worse. The next units to go (in two turns) are the battalions of the 70th Infantry Division....



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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 12:11:54 PM   
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My decision would be made easier if I knew what devoncop knows in terms of what units are where. In some ways I'd like to invite him onto my armour - but this is incredibly dangerous as he would get first mover advantage.

I think I will start in the west. I will just have to accept that I will lose units by retreating. I just have to hope a) its not too many and b) its the 70th Infantry that takes the brunt as they are being removed soon.... Oh well here goes.

Initial moves went okay. The first to suffer is a battery from the 89th Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment. This unit is routed. In being routed I get to see more of the enemy positions. In this sector alone I count 12 enemy artillery pieces. Really?

Next up is the 88th Heavy AA Regiment. Again, rather than just being engaged (with limited movement and losses) this unit too is routed and so lost..... another 4 enemy artillery regiments come into view.

Next its the turn of the 14th Light AA Regiment. This units is not routed but loses all its movement points and so will be lost next turn too.

The first infantry loss is the 2nd Camerons Bn. from the 4th Indian Division; it too is routed... another 8 enemy artillery regiments are spotted. In that small sector of the front that is almost as many artillery pieces as I have in my whole army....

Two more batteries of AA and an armoured car company are engaged.

I would move back further but unfortunately even moving back as far as I am puts my reorganising aircraft at Mersah Matruh. Can anyone give me some good news please?


Losses so far from the initial moves....



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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 12:49:07 PM   
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The next problem is that I need to allow for the fact that the 70th Infantry's battalions are disappearing. I'll see what I can scrape together using the 4th Indian, 2nd South African and other odds and ends. I have to do this because I really need the 1st South African to move east to try and counter a move to the see by the German armoured formations.

In the south I straighten my line to allow the 3rd Motor Brigade to be taken out of the line. This has the unfortunate effect of consigning 3 companies from the 5th Indian Division to the dustbin (as they are reorganising) but I think makes sense.

One turn of putting my aircraft into the skies with air superiority and the advantage of range and..... my air force is shot to crap. Once again its the Hurricanes that bear the brunt and although my paper strength is 17 squadrons, I have less than 12... I have just 35 Tomahawks left and it is annoying the 3 squadrons can't be reduced to 2 or even 1.

I hate to have to do it but I put all remaining non-reorganising squadrons to rest and hope....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 2:27:10 PM   
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Turn 145
4th February 1942


My decision would be made easier if I knew what devoncop knows in terms of what units are where. In some ways I'd like to invite him onto my armour - but this is incredibly dangerous as he would get first mover advantage.

I think I will start in the west. I will just have to accept that I will lose units by retreating. I just have to hope a) its not too many and b) its the 70th Infantry that takes the brunt as they are being removed soon.... Oh well here goes.

Initial moves went okay. The first to suffer is a battery from the 89th Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment. This unit is routed. In being routed I get to see more of the enemy positions. In this sector alone I count 12 enemy artillery pieces. Really?

Next up is the 88th Heavy AA Regiment. Again, rather than just being engaged (with limited movement and losses) this unit too is routed and so lost..... another 4 enemy artillery regiments come into view.

Next its the turn of the 14th Light AA Regiment. This units is not routed but loses all its movement points and so will be lost next turn too.

The first infantry loss is the 2nd Camerons Bn. from the 4th Indian Division; it too is routed... another 8 enemy artillery regiments are spotted. In that small sector of the front that is almost as many artillery pieces as I have in my whole army....

Two more batteries of AA and an armoured car company are engaged.

I would move back further but unfortunately even moving back as far as I am puts my reorganising aircraft at Mersah Matruh. Can anyone give me some good news please?


Surrender is an option.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 2:34:09 PM   
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Turn 145
4th February 1942


My decision would be made easier if I knew what devoncop knows in terms of what units are where. In some ways I'd like to invite him onto my armour - but this is incredibly dangerous as he would get first mover advantage.

I think I will start in the west. I will just have to accept that I will lose units by retreating. I just have to hope a) its not too many and b) its the 70th Infantry that takes the brunt as they are being removed soon.... Oh well here goes.

Initial moves went okay. The first to suffer is a battery from the 89th Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment. This unit is routed. In being routed I get to see more of the enemy positions. In this sector alone I count 12 enemy artillery pieces. Really?

Next up is the 88th Heavy AA Regiment. Again, rather than just being engaged (with limited movement and losses) this unit too is routed and so lost..... another 4 enemy artillery regiments come into view.

Next its the turn of the 14th Light AA Regiment. This units is not routed but loses all its movement points and so will be lost next turn too.

The first infantry loss is the 2nd Camerons Bn. from the 4th Indian Division; it too is routed... another 8 enemy artillery regiments are spotted. In that small sector of the front that is almost as many artillery pieces as I have in my whole army....

Two more batteries of AA and an armoured car company are engaged.

I would move back further but unfortunately even moving back as far as I am puts my reorganising aircraft at Mersah Matruh. Can anyone give me some good news please?


Surrender is an option.
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Thank-you, I'll give that some consideration


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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 5:23:07 PM   
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Can anyone give me some good news please?


Take note that Sidi Omar is the farthest east airfield that is sufficiently inland to be out of range of the fleet. So, if you deploy at El Alamein, you can make it very difficult for the Axis player to employ his air units within range of fighter cover. If he tries it, the fleet may sortie against those coastal fields.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 10:29:36 PM   
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Turn 146 - Axis Turn (in real time)
7th February 1942


The enemy begin by clearing the units left behind previously - a battery of the 89th HAA Regt. evaporates, but two of the companies of air base retreat to the CW lines on the coast - as does a second battery of the 89th and the 88th HAA Regt. A battery of the 15th LAA is not so lucky.

Italian units rock up to my western line once more....

A little further south and a battery of the 14th LAA Regt. disappears, but two others reach safety. devoncop didn't do his favoured MO of surrounding them first.

Same drill as last turn - there are a lot of units in the front-line and I can see a great many artillery pieces moving up too. I should count them but the numbers are too depressing....

In the east a German unit makes contact with my defensive line but manages to retreat without getting engaged....

There is a solid wall of artillery two hexes from my western front-line - and now the bombardments start.




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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 10:46:56 PM   
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Turn 146 - Axis Turn (in real time)
7th February 1942


Strangely there are two bombardments only. The first is against the 2nd Camerons that were caught in no man's land during the retreat. The losses are negligible.

The second is in the main line. 22 artillery units and 46 bombers (escorted by 99 fighters) attack.

I am so angry. Despite being ordered to rest ALL squadrons, 33 Hurricanes fly in defence. The bombardment makes a mess of the South African troops - 16 squads, 27 machine guns, 16 25-pounders (50%!) 8 Howitzers, 2 mortars, 3 AA guns and 53 trucks. Counter-battery fire is largely ineffective, although 5 AA guns were destroyed. In a lucky break (although they should never have been flying ) the Hurricanes lost number 6 precious fighters (1 destroyed) while the Axis lose 18 (7 destroyed).

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/11/2018 11:15:04 PM   
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Turn 146
7th February 1942


With all those artillery pieces there is no question of me trying to hold, but I have to run the gauntlet and hope my units aren't engaged again. I just don't have the energy to face that tonight....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/12/2018 9:08:54 AM   
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Turn 146
7th February 1942


....and now its the morning, I look at the map - and I still don't have the stomach for this retreat. Why do I have such a mounting sense of trepidation?

Oh well, I can't put the deed off forever in the hope that devoncop feels sorry for me and asks for a draw... so here goes.

My AA units are rapidly dwindling - this time its the turn of the 37th Light AA regiment to suffer engagement - closely followed by the 2nd Light AA. A battery of the 9th Heavy AA then evaporates.

As before I start from the coast and work my way down. The poor 2nd Camerons must be wondering what they've done to deserve this - they get caught a second time - although not routed, they will move no further than 1 hex....

The British infantry within Indian units continue to take the brunt as a company of the 1st Worcesters suffer the same fate.

Next up its a detachment of Free French Marines.

I decide that that is enough. ideally I would like to retreat further but I've lost too many units as it is.

So this is the position post withdrawal and pre- organising the actual dispositions. The good news is... there is no good news... but the bad news is plentiful:

- I've increased my frontage by one hex
- I've lost the airbase at Mersa Matruh
- I've lost a battalion of infantry
- I've lost an airbase unit
- I've lost three regiments of AA and a number of batteries too
- It's only February....




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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/12/2018 2:57:24 PM   
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Turn 146
7th February 1942


Having adjusted my lines I set about a few desultory artillery strikes which didn't amount to much. All aircraft are on rest. The front line in the west is being looked after - north to south - by XIII Corps infantry, 2nd South African Division and the 1st Free French Brigade. I have largely moved the 4th Indian Division units out of the line pending their withdrawal (and have already done the same with the 70th Division). Then along the southern front the Free French, the 1st South African and the 50th Division take up the reins.

I desperately need more units......

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 3/12/2018 7:36:41 PM   
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Turn 146
7th February 1942


Having adjusted my lines I set about a few desultory artillery strikes which didn't amount to much. All aircraft are on rest. The front line in the west is being looked after - north to south - by XIII Corps infantry, 2nd South African Division and the 1st Free French Brigade. I have largely moved the 4th Indian Division units out of the line pending their withdrawal (and have already done the same with the 70th Division). Then along the southern front the Free French, the 1st South African and the 50th Division take up the reins.

I desperately need more units......

Here are some volunteers.




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