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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/27/2018 3:44:08 PM

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Turn 219
21st October 1942

The score turns positive - just - but its still a draw....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/27/2018 3:57:25 PM

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Turn 219
21st October 1942

In real life the 8th Army victory began on 23rd October 1942 at El-Alamein.

The game reaches the 21st and British, Commonwealth and Allied troops are fighting at El-Alamein....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/27/2018 3:58:09 PM

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Turn 219
21st October 1942

The turn has been spent moving units forward (except those required to deal with the annoying Axis forces west of El-Alamein that don't seem to want to die). With one round left they remain stubbornly in place....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/27/2018 6:19:43 PM

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Turn 219
21st October 1942

The Axis forces west of El-Alamein are destroyed on the last round of the turn.

That's over 100 infantry squads and almost 50 field guns in the bag.

When moving my units forward one thing I found quite shocking is how many formations have simply disappeared. No division is anything like close to establishment so I hope I have enough troops left!

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 12:42:27 AM

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Warspite,

Great stuff! Good luck moving forward.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 1:11:39 AM

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He's been getting bugger-all replacements of heavier equipment for many turns now, and once TORCH lands, he'll be getting nothing at all.

The bells can start ringing, even if he has managed to preserve forces for some cunning little counter-strokes.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 9:07:39 AM

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Turn 220
24th October 1942

The return of an unsatisfactory aspect of the game. As many of the enemy units are fleeing westward (including his fighter units) I order some interdiction. Unlike in STBP I can see airstrikes flash up during the playback - and also that a load of my bomber squadrons have evaporated

but I have absolutely no idea what those airstrikes did in terms of damage to the enemy. This really needs to be fixed please.

Otherwise, during that turn there were four small scale enemy attacks as the Axis forces south and west of Quattara try and get back to safety. In all four cases the CW forces held.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 9:11:13 AM

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Turn 220
24th October 1942

The game continues to be drawn....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 9:33:02 AM

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Turn 220
24th October 1942

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 9:34:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: Szilard

He's been getting bugger-all replacements of heavier equipment for many turns now, and once TORCH lands, he'll be getting nothing at all.

The bells can start ringing, even if he has managed to preserve forces for some cunning little counter-strokes.

warspite1

Interesting - that's not been my take on it. I'll show you what I mean next time the opportunity presents itself. Naturally I hope you're right!

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 10:42:37 AM

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If I'm looking at the right version, from turn 191 he was getting just 1 German tank per turn (Pz IVf2) and that finished on T216. No Italian tanks since T195.

All 75mm - 155mm field artillery had finished by T145, most of it well before then; a few 170 and 210mm pieces finishing by T178.

No AT guns from T203, except for a dribble of 37mm pieces coming up.

88's a thing of the past since T194; a trickle of Italian 90's finished on T202.

Me 109F's finished on T194; a few Gustav's continue until T220.

The flow of fearsome CR42's also dries up on T220; MC202's continue on.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 10:46:32 AM

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Turn 220
24th October 1942

Sadly there won't be much of a turn as I have spent most movement points getting to this position - but we'll see what we can do.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 11:20:20 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Szilard

If I'm looking at the right version, from turn 191 he was getting just 1 German tank per turn (Pz IVf2) and that finished on T216. No Italian tanks since T195.

All 75mm - 155mm field artillery had finished by T145, most of it well before then; a few 170 and 210mm pieces finishing by T178.

No AT guns from T203, except for a dribble of 37mm pieces coming up.

88's a thing of the past since T194; a trickle of Italian 90's finished on T202.

Me 109F's finished on T194; a few Gustav's continue until T220.

The flow of fearsome CR42's also dries up on T220; MC202's continue on.

warspite1

This is good news. The reason for my thinking otherwise is the sheer volume of replacements that seem to be piling in from Tripolitania - and these seem to include artillery and tanks. In addition when I look at the Loss Reports, on the right-hand side it states 'replacements' and this always says 'yes' for the Axis. Maybe FOW?

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 11:25:14 AM

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Turn 220
24th October 1942

The turn ends and I will keep a track of losses as this is clearly vital for victory conditions. Most attacks in the south to clear up stragglers were successful - with a couple of failures. Having the Kiwis skirting the mountains north of Quattara was a good idea (about time I had one of those) as this division can serve three functions - keeping an eye on further stragglers, stopping any would be attempt by the Axis to re-enter the area south of Quattara and also (possibly) out-flank the enemy in the south if they have no units there.....

The air briefing confirms I lost over sixty aircraft in the interdiction debacle so I have a lot catching up to do....

If we ignore the nonsense of air battle 11 then this was a pretty good turn considering the amount of turn used up by movement.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 3:26:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

In addition when I look at the Loss Reports, on the right-hand side it states 'replacements' and this always says 'yes' for the Axis. Maybe FOW?

That means there are replacements available in the "On Hand" column. It tells you very little about what is arriving via the tracks. Note that heavy losses sends lots of stuff into the "On Hand" column.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 4:02:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

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ORIGINAL: warspite1

In addition when I look at the Loss Reports, on the right-hand side it states 'replacements' and this always says 'yes' for the Axis. Maybe FOW?

That means there are replacements available in the "On Hand" column. It tells you very little about what is arriving via the tracks. Note that heavy losses sends lots of stuff into the "On Hand" column.

warspite1

That makes sense thanks.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 4:12:16 PM

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Turn 221
28th October 1942

No attacks from the Axis - other than retreat before combat of a number of recce units.

The victory indicator moves by a solitary point.....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 5:47:34 PM

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Turn 221
28th October 1942

I don't know how people play an Eastern Front game at this level

- you have my admiration and respect!!

What a piggin mess.

- I can't advance quickly enough in some areas and too quickly in others
- I have units (in particular artillery) at various levels of movement remaining
- I then have to judge some attacks I can do this round - some I have to leave
- But some artillery needs to be used for bombardment and not combat support
- and.....

I'm so confused I don't know where I am or what my name is!!!

But despite all that, I've survived two rounds relatively intact

A couple of stragglers remain in the south but otherwise the blocking stacks have been eliminated and I have 40% of the turn left.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 7:08:42 PM

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Turn 221
28th October 1942

There were 42 attacks/bombardments that turn but the nos. are pretty low reflecting the lower counter density I think! I have many units on one hex all over map but they don't show as over-stacked due to the sheer number of losses. The key numbers were (CW first):

Infantry: 110 vs 349
Artillery (all types): 57 vs 0
Fighters (Destroyed): 18(1) vs 26(8)
Bombers (Destroyed): 13(3) vs 12(4)

Note the aircraft losses bear no resemblance to the air report so I'm a little confused by what is happening there.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 7:37:25 PM

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57 vs 0 in artelleri. Yeah, that sounds healthy.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 7:40:06 PM

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57 vs 0 in artelleri. Yeah, that sounds healthy.

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That's because I didn't attack his artillery last turn. devoncop has a number of stacks behind the line that he may decide to use to gain revenge this turn.....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/28/2018 7:58:12 PM

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Warspite,

I have no idea how any manages the Eastern Front - in my last game I kept forgetting to move my reinforcements forward...

Well done with this battle!

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/29/2018 6:16:32 PM

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Turn 222
31st October 1942

No Axis bombardments this turn. A few allied units were lost in RBC but otherwise nothing.

The Germans continue to stand - and have strengthened their right flank to stop any thoughts of envelopment.....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/29/2018 7:03:35 PM

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Turn 222
31st October 1942

There is one bombardment and 13 assaults for the first round. Two of the battles are won by the Axis and one neither gains control. 80% of the turn left.....

But then the wheels fell off slightly. I spent up 4 rounds achieving little - except on the coastal plain where South Africans, Australians and Free French rip into the Axis left flank.

Not the greatest of shots. I am not sure about the quality or otherwise of that turn. I need to analyse the losses but it was all very laborious and - apart from on the coast road - no significant progress made.....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/29/2018 9:10:06 PM

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Turn 222
31st October 1942

A pretty poor turn to be honest. At this stage of the game I suspect I need to be hitting the Axis forces really hard, but.....

CW first:
Infantry: 302 vs 458
Artillery (all types): 26 vs 77
Fighters (Destroyed): 2(2) vs 0(0)
Bombers (Destroyed): 6(0) vs 9(1)

...and just to add to my woes, I lose the Australians shortly

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/30/2018 6:47:11 AM

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Turn 223
4th November 1942

The number of enemy reinforcements piling into Cyrenaica is really disturbing....

There was one bombardment from the Axis this turn. The damage was not too bad but German fighters - outnumbered 2 to 1 - shoot down 7 of my fighters (2 destroyed) for the loss of 3 (2 destroyed).....

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/30/2018 6:48:58 AM

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Turn 223
4th November 1942

Victory points stand at 20 - a draw. It's time to bring in my Corps de Chasse (X Corps) regardless of their supply status.

The plan of attack!

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/30/2018 7:42:22 AM

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Turn 223
4th November 1942

The results were largely good - and there were no Axis units that held their ground.

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/30/2018 7:49:03 AM

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Turn 223
4th November 1942

The rest of the turn peters out much like the last one. As soon as there is any sort of entrenchment 1 battalion vs a whole division comes up as a 'very poor' attack???

Further ground is made but its clear from the numbers that what the Axis are presenting is just a screen and the main forces are yet to come.

As for the air war......

I continue to summarise like this as with over 40 pieces of action I can't fit the spreadsheet on!!
CW first:
Infantry: 179 vs 474
Artillery (all types): 12 vs 75
Tanks: 19 vs 0
Fighters (Destroyed): 4(2) vs 2(0)
Bombers (Destroyed): 14(4) vs 5(3)

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RE: CFNA 1940-43 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 5/30/2018 11:32:35 PM

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Warspite,

Well done, I really enjoy reading your posts!

Have a good day,

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