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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/9/2018 7:46:50 AM   
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I'm curious how the Air war is going?
In my game, after Rasputitza, Soviet Air Force have become really active, sending hundreds of aircraft on each battle, especially near Moscow. Luftwaffe still inflict ~5x losses but I doubt for much longer. I stopped Interdiction as it become too costly.


I still have slight air superiority 31:22. My air losses have been constant for some time, 20-25 fighters and 20-30 bombers per turn. The enemy is losing more, but their numbers grow every turn.

I have been interdicting during the whole game. I have reduced bomber units range, so thay they always fly under my figher cover. Some time ago I set all levelbomber units to minimize losses. Idea is to harass enemy supply columns near the frontline. I only fly on green or light green supply. When on yellow they rest.

Me-109E/F 898 assigned, 371 on hand (losses 846, replacements 1206)
Ju-87(late) 384 assigned, 518 on hand (losses 226, replacements 804)
He-111 438 assigned, 14 on hand (losses 685, replacements 469)
Ju-88 696 assigned, 25 on hand (losses 900, replacements 871)
Me-110 214 assigned, 18 on hand (losses 384, replacements 402)

I have way too much Stukas on stockpiles, have to use them more aggressively. I have lost a little too much He-111s.

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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 2:55:01 PM   
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The enemy makes heavy attacks on our northern flank. We lose Dubna and Dimitrov.
On the southern flank fresh enemy units counterattack near Plavsk. Our Panzer units go defensive.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 3:01:46 PM   
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Heavy attacks against our bridgehead near Dimitrov.

We gain some ground on the Moscow front.

Our troops encircle several enemy formations near Likhvin.

Railheads (cyan) are not moving forward. Rail repair is very slow during the winter.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 3:08:59 PM   
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We attack on the north flank and Dubna is recaptured.

On the south flank our troops are very tired and on low supply. The enemy is weak in this sector. If we would only have two fresh divisions, we could take Tula in no time.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 3:20:54 PM   
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The enemy is attacking on our northern flank. Dubna was lost again. 87th Infantry Division had to withdraw near Dimitrov. 8th PzD counterattacked and the situation was restored.

On the southern flank we managed to destroy all surrounded enemy units.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 3:30:23 PM   
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Heavy attacks on the northern flank. 8th PzD was defending Dimitrov bridgehead. The enemy is taking heavy losses, but they keep coming like a steamroller.

On the southern flank we attack south from Serpukhov. Our goal is to capture Moscow – Tula railroad. Only 30 km to Tula.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 6:50:26 PM   
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We are advancing slowly towards Tula. Other sectors of the frontline remain stable.

We are losing more rifle squads than we are receiving reinforcements. A lot of this loss is caused by pestilence. Finnish forces are suffering the most. They lose about 45 squads every turn and got only 25 replacements. Total Finnish pestilence losses during the winter will be 1125 squads or 11250 men. I think the whole population would perish in couple of decades at this rate. Russians don’t worry about the cold weather, they are not going to lose any squads. Not very realistic I think.

Severe weather is hampering our supply flow and slowing rail repair work.

Losses in the first 70 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis)

45810 (+3851) Heavy Rifle Squads [repl 2155]
5300 (+401) Rifle Squad – Rum [repl 280]
786 (+113) Rifle Squad – Hun [repl 155]
4298 (+365) Rifle Squad – Fin [repl 125]
375 (+45) Rifle Squad – Ita [repl 90]
6700 (+686) Engineer Squads [repl 225]
1171 (+61) Panzers (all types) [repl 125]
1777 (+149) Fighters (all types) [repl 135]
235 (+10) Stuka & Hs-129 [repl 75]
1957 (+152) Bombers (all types) [repl 110]

Railroads are on the map in cyan.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 7:23:19 PM   
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8th Panzer Division is defending a bridgehead over Moscow – Volga canal. The division is exhausted after repulsing several enemy attacks during the last week. The unit does have 136 Pz-38t tanks and 17 new Pz-IIIj tanks. The unit has lost half of its rifle squads.

10th Motorized Division is between Kaluga and Tula. The division has participated hard battles during the winter. The unit has lost about a third of its rifle squads.

16th Motorized Division has spent the whole winter in reserve near Kursk. The division is in full supply and in complete readiness. Division has suffered 15% pestilence losses during the winter.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 7:44:46 PM   
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Ten days on the frontline and 8th PzD had enough. Soviet meatgrinder is rolling near Dimitrov, new divisions arrive by train every day. Our 246th ID is going to counterattack. We must keep this bridgehead!

Meanwhile the enemy is attacking on the Tula sector. Our line holds.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 7:59:11 PM   
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First of March, the first day of Spring! We have survived the horrible Russian Winter. Our supply increases. Now we have 23 on rails, it was 18 in winter. Rail repair chance is 12, it was 3 in winter. Pestilence remains 2%.

We have received new Italian and Hungarian divisions.

It’s time to start planning the new fighting season.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 8:42:48 PM   
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The AGS sector has been relatively quiet during the whole winter. The focus of the coming summer will be on the sector of AGS. We are now planning two operations for the coming weeks. We are going to attack on both flanks. Our objective is to capture good starting positions for our summer campaign. We have to move quickly before snow melts and spring rasputitsa begins.

48th Panzer Korps is going to attack east from Kursk. The objective is important railroad junction at Kastornoye. 2nd Hungarian Army and Italian Exp Force are going to guard flanks of this operation.

On the southern flank we are going to capture Donets River bridges at Izium and Krasny Liman. Near the Sea of Azov we are going to advance to the Mius River and capture Matveev Kurgan.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 9:00:31 PM   
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The frontline has remained static during the winter. There have been heavy battles on the northern flank near Volkhov. The enemy has suffered severe losses.

We have no plans to advance any further during the next campaign season.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/10/2018 9:24:25 PM   
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We have two limited goals before spring rasputiza.

We are going to advance to the east side of Moscow. We are not going to attack the city. The goal is to gain good positions for the future envelopment of the Moscow Front.

The second objective of the AGC is Tula.

AGS is going to attack near the border of army groups.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 6:37:36 AM   
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Tula is captured! It took us five weeks to advance 50 km from Aleksin to Tula. Now it is time to straighten the frontline and secure Tula – Moscow railroad. Our troops are exhausted in this sector.

Meanwhile 3rd Panzer Armee is pushing towards Moscow. The enemy troops south of Moscow are no match to our panzers.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 6:48:38 AM   
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Kursk

Our offensive has been going on for a week now. 48th Panzer Korps has advanced 70 km towards Kastornoye. 2nd Hungarian Army is guarding the north flank. Italian divisions are on the south flank.

Supply situation is good. Railhead is at Kursk.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 7:12:58 AM   
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Stalino

9th Panzer Division captured Izium and a bridge over Donets River.

On the south flank we captured Gorlovka. Rumanians are advancing towards Mius River.

Supply situation is not very good. Railheads are a little too far. Let’s see how far we can advance.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 7:35:25 AM   
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The weather is now warmer. Our supply and rail repair rate have improved.

Our tank production increases a lot. New Panzer types are arriving to the front:
Pz-IVF2, 14 per turn
StuG-III 42, 22 per turn

Losses in the first 75 turns: (last 5 turns in parenthesis)

49414 (+3604) Heavy Rifle Squads [repl 2155]
5777 (+477) Rifle Squad – Rum [repl 280]
1020 (+234) Rifle Squad – Hun [repl 155]
4656 (+358) Rifle Squad – Fin [repl 125]
459 (+84) Rifle Squad – Ita [repl 90]
7278 (+578) Engineer Squads [repl 225]
1318 (+147) Panzers (all types) [repl 290]
1900 (+123) Fighters (all types) [repl 135]
250 (+15) Stukas & Hs-129 [repl 75]
2135 (+178) Bombers (all types) [repl 105]

Railroads are on the map in cyan.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 7:51:39 AM   
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We are in the suburbs of Moscow! The enemy line crumbles south of Moscow. Streets are full of retreating artillery. 205th ID is only 10 km from the Kremlin. STAVKA OMSBON special forces guard the city center.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 8:08:38 AM   
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Kursk

Everything goes as planned. We have almost achieved our objectives.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 8:19:19 AM   
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Stalino sector

The enemy makes some heavy counterattacks. SS Wiking Division suffered over 50% losses at Gorlovka. The town was lost.

Rumanian 1st Armored Division captured Matveev Kurgan.

Supply situation is too bad to continue much further. Artillery is out of rounds. The offensive began too soon, we should have waited few more weeks.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 8:21:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Very impressive, like your AAR a lot! You are for sure an experienced WitE-player.
Could you comment about a comparison to WitE?
I thought it was sometimes a lot of micromanagement there already, but in this game with regimental and battalion level??? You seem to handle it quite efficiently.

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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 8:38:35 AM   
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3rd Panzer Armee is pushing forward, we now control the southern half of Moscow. There is a complete chaos in the streets of Moscow. The enemy has no more infantry units on the frontline. We are fighting against remnants of artillery, engineer and HQ units.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 8:54:07 AM   
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Kursk sector

43rd Korps joins the offensive on our north flank. We would like to reach the green line before rasputitsa. Kastornoye and Stary Oskol are still in enemy hands.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 9:29:43 AM   
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Very impressive, like your AAR a lot! You are for sure an experienced WitE-player.
Could you comment about a comparison to WitE?
I thought it was sometimes a lot of micromanagement there already, but in this game with regimental and battalion level??? You seem to handle it quite efficiently.


I have played WitE, but I'm not very experienced. I think WitE is a little too much micromanagement for me. What I like in WitE is OOB and commanders. I didn't like how the game portrays the first winter. Suddenly your well fortified units were like a paper dolls in front of superhuman russians.

Directive 21 is mainly divisional level game. First turns of the game are the most time consuming. Then the game speeds up.

East front games I can recommend are Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa and Decisive Campaigns: Case Blue.


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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 9:33:08 AM   
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The final assault to Kremlin. 1st PzD, SS Polizei, 205th ID and 83rd ID are assaulting. By the end of the day the heart of Soviet Union is in our hands.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 9:39:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jukipo
I have played WitE, but I'm not very experienced. I think WitE is a little too much micromanagement for me. What I like in WitE is OOB and commanders. I didn't like how the game portrays the first winter. Suddenly your well fortified units were like a paper dolls in front of superhuman russians.

Directive 21 is mainly divisional level game. First turns of the game are the most time consuming. Then the game speeds up.

East front games I can recommend are Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa and Decisive Campaigns: Case Blue.



Thank you!

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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 9:56:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Troops of the 1st Panzer Division near Kremlin. Sweet victory after the hard winter. Are we going home by spring?




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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/12/2018 12:22:46 PM   
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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/13/2018 10:25:20 AM   
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Most of the Moscow is now in our hands. During the last few days we have captured some ground east of Moscow. Snow is melting and rasputitsa begins soon. It’s not possible now to surround the enemy units NW of Moscow.

Frontline is stabilizing near Tula.





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RE: Thriumph or Tragedy? (D21) - 2/13/2018 10:41:57 AM   
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Kursk

We have identified 7 enemy Tank Corps operating in this sector. The enemy has been attacking against our northern flank.

Our offensive is now over. We are digging in and waiting for rasputitsa.





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