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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/27/2018 3:21:24 AM   
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The Germans continue to hit the British hard with bombardments. Another 90 infantry squads are lost as well as numerous tanks and artillery pieces. Its more quiet on the US sector, just one bombardment that caused little damage.

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/27/2018 3:25:31 AM   
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II Corps

The perennial problem with engineers rears its ugly head. The 36th Division engineers have spent 4 turns now trying to repair the rail line in Taranto with no joy.

I've detached the 92nd Engineers and ordered them to the east coast where there are numerous bridges to be repaired. The remaining engineers are trying to fix the rail lines in the Taranto area.

Free French Mountain Corps

All towns in the heel of Italy are liberated and the Moroccan troops have linked up between Brindisi and Bari. I want to be able to use the airfields around Brindisi and Lecce but I need the rail lines fixed first because supply is rubbish. The 3rd Division engineers are on that job.

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/27/2018 3:54:39 AM   
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Ferocious battles continue north of Salerno as the German fight for every scrap of ground.

I perhaps need to re-think this as a head on approach does not seem to be working.... and I've failed a force proficiency check..


Perhaps I diverted too much artillery to the large stack to the northeast?



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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/27/2018 4:14:47 PM   
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Another grim turn for the British and Dominion forces around Salerno. I will tally up shortly but plenty more losses with little in the way of reply.

Meanwhile I notice the Luftwaffe appears to have left Foggia.....


And sure enough just 8 bombardments nets this kind of damage - good job the Germans found their trusty battlefield nuclear weapons...



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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/27/2018 5:39:45 PM   
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Mmmm it all continues to be very strange - a 'good' attack with huge air and artillery assistance apparently costs 150+ infantry squads (a third of the attacking force) masses of tanks and aircraft and artillery....all for very little

Okay.

The turn ends with little achieved...

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/27/2018 8:58:14 PM   
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There were six more bombardments - three came to nothing and the other three were in the CW sector again. Losses remain high but nothing like as bad as last turn, and the Luftwaffe lost a lot of aircraft.

On the east coast devoncop seeks to take advantage of my lack of intel and sneaks at least one parachute battalion west of Barletta - and the rail line between Bari and Brindisi is also broken....

3rd US Division and elements of the French Division will seek to tidy up....

The British make a minor breakthrough at Salerno but just one armoured brigade now has to fight off the German forces no doubt looking to counter.




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 10:06:44 AM   
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The German artillery continues to appear as something out of Battlestar Galactica. The losses continue to cause serious concern.


Amazing what 7 bombardments can do.....



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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 10:58:45 AM   
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The developments at Salerno mean I need to have a bit of a think about this. I'll start in the east.

Further German units have been found near Barletta. This is great delaying tactics by devoncop and I need to get rid of these asap. I've had to earmark more French troops to check out the mountains for other German units.....




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 12:28:15 PM   
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In the west there is no way through....




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 5:50:34 PM   
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At last the German barrages were more manageable. I need to make this - no doubt brief - respite count.

Two attacks go in but somehow a lone reconnaissance battalion manages to hold off the combined infantry, armour, artillery and aircraft attack. Fortunately the attack on the left of the line was a little better and did succeed in forcing back the defenders. Meanwhile the poor Canadians are still trying to plough a lonely furrow through the mountains.




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 5:57:08 PM   
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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 5:58:11 PM   
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22nd November 1943

In the east the US 1st Armoured, supported by the Moroccans, move into Foggia.




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 5:58:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zorch

Is there a random event for Mt. Vesuvius erupting? A little lava does wonders for foxholes.
warpite1

I think that was CivIII.....


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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 6:16:09 PM   
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It can be very frustrating that there is no control over which units advance after combat. The 9th Armoured Brigade, that had cut-off a German regiment northwest of Salerno, took part in an attack on the surrounded unit and promptly advanced. I tried to then send him back - which worked - but at the cost of engagement.


But the good news is the front has started to expand (subject to keeping the gains post any counter-attacks heading my way)



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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/28/2018 9:41:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you want a unit to attack but not advance use the 'limited attack' option. That way you can pick which unit advances.

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 4:39:43 AM   
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If you want a unit to attack but not advance use the 'limited attack' option. That way you can pick which unit advances.
warspite1

I have in the past used limited attack only to find a unit advances - not always only sometimes.

But can you clarify by what you mean about picking which unit advances? Regardless of the method I didn't know one could pick unit(s) to advance - it all seems random to me.


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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 6:10:54 AM   
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Four more bombardments and four more depressing results for those being pummelled. The damage was not as bad this time but still hugely expensive in men and equipment of all types.

But now for some good news




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 6:18:51 AM   
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23rd November 1943

Italians have turned up near Taranto!!!!!!!!

....seems they're on our side....




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 6:36:43 AM   
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Because I know so little about the campaign I really don't know what to expect in terms of OOB of either side. I am amazed there has been no response to the loss of Foggia and I need to tread cautiously as I am expecting a surprise any minute.

The 1st Armoured are starting to fan out from the town and the French have been tasked with ensuring there are no Germans to the east.

The paratroopers near Barletta continue to swallow up far too many units and I have started to order the 36th Division to break off. I should be able to surround and destroy the Germans with the 3rd Division and some assistance from the French.




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 6:54:06 AM   
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In the west I will try and force 23rd Armoured Brigade up the coast road, but first the Canadians will attack a lone flak unit and there will be a general bombardment of the large group of Germans just east of the road. This contains the HQ of OB South West and the 15th Panzergrenadier Division. The panzergrenadier regiment on the peninsular will hopefully be taken care of by the three battalions of 138th Brigade.




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 7:11:38 AM   
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If you want a unit to attack but not advance use the 'limited attack' option. That way you can pick which unit advances.
warspite1

I have in the past used limited attack only to find a unit advances - not always only sometimes.

But can you clarify by what you mean about picking which unit advances? Regardless of the method I didn't know one could pick unit(s) to advance - it all seems random to me.



Use full attack with the unit or units you want to advance, and use limited attack with those that you want to stay in place and not advance. Okay, in some cases all the units on standard attack will not have enough MP left to advance, so no-one advances, but there's not much you can do about that

I've never come across a situation where a unit doing a limited attack advanced. I think you might be mistaken about that. Or it has happened to me and I missed it, but I don't think so. It's a handy tool and I use it a lot.

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 7:17:31 AM   
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The British achieved their aim - although with just one unit advancing the 23rd Armoured's hold on that coastal hex is, shall we say, precarious.

The three hexes marked with the cross-hairs came under some serious bombardment too so I'm hoping they won't be in a position to make life too difficult. The British and US bombers are all geared to interdiction too....




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 7:51:17 AM   
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The Centre

The Germans are so difficult to kill. I am still trying to finish off the Germans in the mountains but it is very slow work as they simply retreat after every battle and the movement allowance means its incredibly difficult to surround them. So here is some appropriate music to sum up the experience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ls2SDeqltk

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 12:51:45 PM   
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Is there a random event for Mt. Vesuvius erupting? A little lava does wonders for foxholes.
warpite1

I think that was CivIII.....



Vesuvius did actually erupt in March 1944, trashing a B-25 group.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bsmv6PyKs0

EDIT: Some great pics of B-25's & Vesuvius: http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuvius.html


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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 1:59:37 PM   
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Is there a random event for Mt. Vesuvius erupting? A little lava does wonders for foxholes.
warpite1

I think that was CivIII.....



Vesuvius did actually erupt in March 1944, trashing a B-25 group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bsmv6PyKs0

EDIT: Some great pics of B-25's & Vesuvius: http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuvius.html


Thank you for posting. I did not know about the B-25s.

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/29/2018 6:16:33 PM   
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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/30/2018 5:58:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zorch

Is there a random event for Mt. Vesuvius erupting? A little lava does wonders for foxholes.
warpite1

I think that was CivIII.....



Vesuvius did actually erupt in March 1944, trashing a B-25 group.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bsmv6PyKs0

EDIT: Some great pics of B-25's & Vesuvius: http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuvius.html

warspite1

Thanks for posting that Szilard

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/30/2018 6:00:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was unable to war game for most of yesterday, but got back to find devoncop has made a potentially campaign winning move..... stay tooned!

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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/30/2018 8:27:08 AM   
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The sneaky devoncop has gone round the back!! Because of supply considerations I never once even considered the possibility of this kind of move. Totally unseen by me he has (at least):

2 x Infantry Regiment
1 x Infantry Battalion
1 x Panzer Battalion
1 x Assault Gun Battalion
1 x Armoured Anti-Tank Battalion

in behind my forces. Of course I don't know what else he has got and remains hidden....




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RE: STBP 1943-45 devoncop (Axis) vs warspite1 (CW) - 4/30/2018 8:37:16 AM   
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I move everything back I can, but decide to try and make life less complicated by removing the panzergrenadier regiment on the peninsular west of Salerno. With massive air support the infantry of the 138th Brigade and armour from the 21st Tank Brigade, the German 67th Panzergrenadier Regiment is destroyed. One thing less to worry about at least!




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