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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/24/2018 9:15:18 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/24/2018 9:15:41 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/24/2018 9:16:12 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 1:05:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Il Duce was just unlucky. Switch the die rolls for Badoglio and Wavell, or make Wavell’s the same as Badoglio’s and the Wavell HQ is probably gone and Egypt belongs to the Axis.

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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 1:30:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: brian brian

Il Duce was just unlucky. Switch the die rolls for Badoglio and Wavell, or make Wavell’s the same as Badoglio’s and the Wavell HQ is probably gone and Egypt belongs to the Axis.
There's more ... wait until I post next turn ... which is still playing out. I must say that I'm having a blast with this game and watching how the ebb and flow of things play out. At this point I'm unsure how the situation in Egypt and the Med, in general, will end up.


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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 5:29:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		It looks to me that the CW made a major mistake in Egypt. If the Axis gets the initiative, the CW has just handed Alexandria to the Italians. Attack that TERR, blitz it off the map, advance into Alexandria.

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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 3:05:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

It looks to me that the CW made a major mistake in Egypt. If the Axis gets the initiative, the CW has just handed Alexandria to the Italians. Attack that TERR, blitz it off the map, advance into Alexandria.


That's my first reaction too. It's a +10 attack using the assault table to grab Alexandria, I believe. Even more with shore bombardment added. After that, the road is clear to Caïro too...

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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 3:13:22 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 4:48:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Centuur

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

It looks to me that the CW made a major mistake in Egypt. If the Axis gets the initiative, the CW has just handed Alexandria to the Italians. Attack that TERR, blitz it off the map, advance into Alexandria.


That's my first reaction too. It's a +10 attack using the assault table to grab Alexandria, I believe. Even more with shore bombardment added. After that, the road is clear to Caïro too...

Good eye. I definitely missed that one, as you shall see later. The Italian could have gotten +16 assault (+17 w/HQ support, which would have disorganized Graziani). Because of rain in Alexandria the CW could have (would have) forced an assault. It would have been interesting to see how this would have played out. But, how it actually is playing out is interesting too.




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 4:48:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tverse

Really enjoying the AAR especially the Naval battle described above.

Thanks.

I'm having a blast playing the game.

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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 8:59:34 PM   
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(1) A short turn.
(2) Wavell's HQ-A destroyed but almost immediately replaced by Alexander's HQ-I.
(3) German u-boats devastate CW convoys. The CW lost a total of 8 CP's with another 10 aborted this turn. This is troubling for two reasons:
(a) No CW CP's were left at sea in the North Atlantic and West Med when the turn end forcing the CW to use all of its saved oil England (5 points) to salvage most of its production potential.
(b) Total convoy losses over the last two turns is 15 sunk and 13 aborted. The losses are unsustainable.
(4) KM makes a dash from Kiel through the Channel to Brest, stopping on their way to attempt to raid a small RN task force on patrol there.




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:00:43 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:04:08 PM   
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CW rushes reinforcements from England to Egypt braving the trip through the Med. Only Alexander's HQ-I makes it their this turn. CW mech corps is stopped in the West Med and eventually disembarks into Malta. Overall, the CW is quite happy to have gotten Alexander's HQ-I there. It was an interesting journey as detailed below.




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:05:31 PM   
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Actually the situation in Egypt and the East Med at the beginning of next turn (Nov/Dec 1940).




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:06:41 PM   
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Same for the West Med, Malta and Gibraltar (i.e., situation start of Nov/Dec 1940).




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:13:41 PM   
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The KM moves in force out into the North Sea. The RN attempts but fails to intercept. The KM, nevertheless, decides to remain in the North Sea and attack the small RN task force operating there, which does contain a fleet aircraft carrier but whose planes are grounded due to storms.

During naval combat neither side finds.




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:19:40 PM   
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The RN sorties more ships into the North Sea to deal with the brazen move by the KM. They find the KM and close to within gun range. The KM CA Admiral Scheer is sunk and the Admiral Grap Spee is heavily damaged. Not a very good day for German Admirals.

Though, the cost to the RN is that they lose the NED CA Sumatra and NED CA Java is damaged.

The remaining KM ships "retire", really make a dash, to Brest.





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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:24:16 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:30:37 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:32:22 PM   
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All 3 CW CP's are cleared from the West Med. 1 CP is sunk and the other 2 are aborted. This is a start of a horrendous turn against CW convoys.




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:35:44 PM   
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Two rounds of u-boat attacks results in 4 CW CP's sunk, 5 aborted and the NED CL Jacob van Heemskenck damaged. All without inflicting a scratch on the two German u-boat flotillas.




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:37:36 PM   
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The CW is able to replace 6 of the 9 CP's cleared last impulse by German u-boats from the North Atlantic. These u-boats promptly clear these 6 CP's, sinking 3 and aborting the other 3.

The two u-boat flotillas escape this encounter with minor scratches, 1 of the 2 is forced to abort.

A very good turn from u-boat wolfpacks.




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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:40:04 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:44:35 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:45:47 PM   
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(1) Not only is Germany giving Italy 3 non-oil RP's, it also "gave" Italy 2 1/2 oil RP to reorganize their units. Italy is definitely a drain on Germany's war economy.

(2) The USA, which geared up production this turn, plans on saving 3 BP's a turn for an O-chit so it'll have one on hand when it enters the war.





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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:49:22 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:49:50 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:50:33 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:50:57 PM   
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RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably ... - 3/25/2018 9:51:25 PM   
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