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RE: 15 final - 4/6/2018 9:33:48 PM   
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You are years ahead of the curve in comparison to the sillyflower game.



Different rule set doesnt help the Germans as much as the rule set Sillyflower played under.

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RE: 15 final - 4/6/2018 9:56:16 PM   
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RE: 15 final - 4/7/2018 1:06:55 AM   
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What rules are they playing under cant seem to find it in opening post of either of their threads.


See top of BrianG screen shot(see SS below) BrianG and Dave are playing under the new ruleset 11.1 which in 41 has the decreased supply. I can tell you from playing my game with M60 that the Germans are not going to go as far nor as fast as previous patches. Not to mention JU-52 are next to worthless. So the patch they are playing on is imo very Soviet friendly in 1941.






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German advance - 4/7/2018 4:00:30 AM   
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best german attack TURN16 - 4/7/2018 4:01:21 AM   
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the cv on the German cut off line seems daunting.




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south open - 4/7/2018 4:05:10 AM   
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summers getting late - 4/7/2018 4:05:52 AM   
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RE: summers getting late - 4/7/2018 4:07:22 AM   
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I've been trying to get cav into these attacks or into the sure thing attacks




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RE: summers getting late - 4/7/2018 4:09:19 AM   
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It's October!

Rostov and its industry seem safe for now.




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RE: summers getting late - 4/7/2018 4:12:01 AM   
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But I only count 10 or 11 total armor down here.




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RE: summers getting late - 4/7/2018 4:15:05 AM   
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really, this south attack has run into ....... (fill in your word)




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back to Moscow - 4/7/2018 4:17:36 AM   
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All I was trying to do here is win this hex (not with this battle) and the eject the cv24 just above.




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RE: back to Moscow - 4/7/2018 4:21:13 AM   
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tula - 4/7/2018 4:22:50 AM   
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16 final - 4/7/2018 4:24:28 AM   
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both sides light in force




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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 4:26:39 AM   
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Above it I am concerned. Below contained.

I don't think he can connect the pincers. Maybe due to low supply plus the rr is still away.




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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 4:28:57 AM   
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Does he have a one turn push in him?





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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 4:31:03 AM   
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AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN

When will I ever learn.




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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 12:35:13 PM   
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Also I am getting good Guard conversion.

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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 7:42:27 PM   
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If, in the latest version the Germans get reduced supply, then the armor units cannot afford to get cut off in 41.

Also I am getting good Guard conversion.


Correct. Latest version it is imperative to keep German units from being cut off imo.

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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 8:41:23 PM   
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If, in the latest version the Germans get reduced supply, then the armor units cannot afford to get cut off in 41.

Also I am getting good Guard conversion.


Correct. Latest version it is imperative to keep German units from being cut off imo.


A bit like the old Roman republic triarii - rarely but their presence was always felt. You could take risks elsewhere knowing you had one place well held. A bit like the cold war - the whole point was so you did not use them.

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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 9:02:24 PM   
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Stalino area

Above it I am concerned. Below contained.

I don't think he can connect the pincers. Maybe due to low supply plus the rr is still away.




Looks right on the edge here, would have thought he could push up from the south with at least the cavalry and then there is only one hex to push over the river in the north to isolate Stalino. You break through in your turn and leaves the situation interesting during the mud moves.

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RE: 16 final - 4/7/2018 10:38:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		If thats the final positions in the south, the Germans have nothing to worry about...those 1 CV soviet cav divisions have virtually no defensive value so even in mud the germans should be able to gain hexes against them.

The biggest issue is the Germans not having Stalino complex for winter....first game in a long time I havent seen it fall in 1941. However...Moscow falling will be painful long term. Esp since Stalino should easily fall in 1942.

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RE: 16 final - 4/8/2018 8:23:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well technically moscow hasn't fallen just yet. The germans have their snow offensive (if they choose to have one), but around moscow will be difficult. Brian could still do a counterattack near moscow and possibly retake it during the blizzard, but for how long?. Another factor would be that the germans might have to keep PzD's on the front to prevent that and thus take attrition and be less prepared for the summer offensive of 42.

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RE: 16 final - 4/8/2018 11:30:41 AM   
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17 - 4/8/2018 7:35:36 PM   
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My behind the lines fort wins another battle. I think it goes on to win 3 battles.

and no major one turn Tula offensive. rather sedate.






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RE: 17 - 4/8/2018 7:38:59 PM   
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Could ya knock off a few of them please.





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RE: 17 - 4/8/2018 7:39:40 PM   
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RE: 17 - 4/8/2018 7:40:47 PM   
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RE: 17 - 4/8/2018 7:42:02 PM   
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