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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/8/2018 9:26:25 PM

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You guys must acclimate to BBfanboy. Its taken me awhile.

For instance, I posted this YouTube link last year, inviting all men of good taste to admire the lady director of the US Army Band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6AOGRsR80

BBfanboy poo-pooed that visions of loveliness and instead directed attention to the flutist (also lovely, but not quite as lovely).

I posted that comment because the video creator seemed to operate on the assumption that lovely old model cars cannot be appreciated without a buxom woman covering half of it! Same as half the commercials on TV. Just show us the product please!

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/9/2018 1:06:14 AM

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You guys must acclimate to BBfanboy. Its taken me awhile.
All that I had to do is remember that he is from Winnipeg and therefore Canadian, that winter winds have nothing there to block them as they freeze certain parts of the body.

For instance, I posted this YouTube link last year, inviting all men of good taste to admire the lady director of the US Army Band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6AOGRsR80
Good musicians and I enjoyed the song. All that rank reminds me of the saying 'Too many chiefs and not enough Indians.' But it is good to remember that while those band members probably learned to drive vehicles in order to take them out of storage for units receiving them, they didn't get to play with them like I did!

BBfanboy poo-pooed that visions of loveliness and instead directed attention to the flutist (also lovely, but not quite as lovely).
Maybe he didn't want an officer and/or the way that the flutist used her lips . . .

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I posted that comment because the video creator seemed to operate on the assumption that lovely old model cars cannot be appreciated without a buxom woman covering half of it! Same as half the commercials on TV. Just show us the product please!

Please tell me where a buxom young woman covered half of any car in that video? I must have missed it. There were a few cars with no young women in the video. I showed that video to a friend and he was not distracted as he told me the make and model of every car in the video.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/9/2018 4:24:31 PM

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For those outside of the US that would be flautist.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 12:08:09 PM

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16th-29th Feb 44

Another period of relative quiet and consolidation. In Thailand he is sweeping most of my bases but I'm not biting. He now has most of his mega stack at Moulmein with 8000 AV and more units still en route. I have half that with another 2000 in reserve along the line running south east to Rahaeng and Uttaradit. Lots of random night bombing in China, again I'm not contesting any of it for now.

The bulk of the KB is on the move, I'm considering splitting it into a fast and slow element so I can react on two potential fronts if needed. He's bombing Darwin and has units marching north to Fenton where I have a small blocking unit, so it looks like this will be his next major effort.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 12:55:47 PM

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Lots of random night bombing in China, again I'm not contesting any of it for now.

What is he targeting?

Think about setting up some night time CAP traps with your night fighters if you can spare them from other duties. If this is happening now, then you can rest assured it will continue for the rest of the game anywhere the Allies don't have air superiority.

Night fighting here in China will gain you valuable experience for when it occurs over Manchuko, Korea and Home Islands.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 1:58:03 PM

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Makes sense. Long slog through the DEI but he doesn�t have much choice. How are your forts looking down there?

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 2:05:25 PM

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Lots of random night bombing in China, again I'm not contesting any of it for now.

What is he targeting?

Think about setting up some night time CAP traps with your night fighters if you can spare them from other duties. If this is happening now, then you can rest assured it will continue for the rest of the game anywhere the Allies don't have air superiority.

Night fighting here in China will gain you valuable experience for when it occurs over Manchuko, Korea and Home Islands.

I have only one dedicated night fighter unit currently in play and it is absolutely useless. Even with 80 exp pilots they are shot down at a rate of 10:1. If I want to try and disrupt the aim I'm better off using useless planes with useless pilots as the result is exactly the same. Remember this is a relatively old build version we are using, so night fighters may not have been tweaked like in subsequent versions. He is targeting industry but he's hitting pointless things like Resources and LI, which makes me think he just has the set to commander discretion, which usually avoids any base with any CAP anyway. I will split up a training unit using old Zeros and sent them to the bases under and attack to see what happens....

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 2:08:39 PM

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Makes sense. Long slog through the DEI but he doesn�t have much choice. How are your forts looking down there?

At least 3 at most bases, but as you will know there are still plenty of empty bases or dot hexes he could land at and soon build up. At least the KB will only be 1 or 2 days sail away from and potential landings...

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 3:16:29 PM

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DEI

As you can see he has been inching up the eastern coast of PNG and has Hollandia almost fully built up. He would struggle to cover any further advance in this direction. Much more likely is an advance from the western side. Merauke is fully built up it looks like he will be knocking on the door of Darwin soon. I re-took Dobo and Taberfane with small units by FT. As you can see there are a lot of empty bases he could land at to the north west of Timor. I will have to see what I can scrape up to defend the ones that can built up to large airfields....

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 4:10:05 PM

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I think CR went close to this route with his game against John III. Dan had carriers and took a northern route but I think the basics are the same. He won�t have as much carrier support as you so interlocking airfields will be crucial for both of you. Looks like you are in OK shape as your lines are internal. Mr Kane is going to need bases and fighter cover. These waters are CA country and yours are better. How are you fixed for surface night fights?

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 4:57:12 PM

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I think CR went close to this route with his game against John III. Dan had carriers and took a northern route but I think the basics are the same. He won�t have as much carrier support as you so interlocking airfields will be crucial for both of you. Looks like you are in OK shape as your lines are internal. Mr Kane is going to need bases and fighter cover. These waters are CA country and yours are better. How are you fixed for surface night fights?

I have only lost 3 old CAs and about 20 DDs so far, so my fleet is in good shape. I won't be going on the offensive with them though as anything that is crippled will be destroyed by B25s flying at 100ft.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 5:04:18 PM

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I have only lost 3 old CAs and about 20 DDs so far, so my fleet is in good shape. I won't be going on the offensive with them though as anything that is crippled will be destroyed by B25s flying at 100ft.

That's all you've lost the whole game?!

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 5:32:28 PM

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At this stage of the game, you should have many more night fighter squadrons available. Nick D should be arriving soon, and they are tough but lack radar.

You need to hunt down the squadrons that upgrade to NF status because it is a numbers game.

Normal tradeoff is one to one or there about. That you are loosing 10-1, even Irving S seems out of whack. The Sa model is much, much better than the S version with radar (June of 44) and more guns.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 6:35:51 PM

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At this stage of the game, you should have many more night fighter squadrons available. Nick D should be arriving soon, and they are tough but lack radar.

You need to hunt down the squadrons that upgrade to NF status because it is a numbers game.

Normal tradeoff is one to one or there about. That you are loosing 10-1, even Irving S seems out of whack. The Sa model is much, much better than the S version with radar (June of 44) and more guns.

I only have one squadron with the Irving S that has been doing so badly. The Nick D arrives next month and the Irving Sa in June. I have not researched any of the later models and to be honest none of them look very good apart from the one that arrives in 46

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 6:36:28 PM

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I have only lost 3 old CAs and about 20 DDs so far, so my fleet is in good shape. I won't be going on the offensive with them though as anything that is crippled will be destroyed by B25s flying at 100ft.

That's all you've lost the whole game?!

Yes and the 3 CAs were largely down to my own stupidity

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/10/2018 10:45:55 PM

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At this stage of the game, you should have many more night fighter squadrons available. Nick D should be arriving soon, and they are tough but lack radar.

You need to hunt down the squadrons that upgrade to NF status because it is a numbers game.

Normal tradeoff is one to one or there about. That you are loosing 10-1, even Irving S seems out of whack. The Sa model is much, much better than the S version with radar (June of 44) and more guns.

I only have one squadron with the Irving S that has been doing so badly. The Nick D arrives next month and the Irving Sa in June. I have not researched any of the later models and to be honest none of them look very good apart from the one that arrives in 46

The Irving Sa works much better.

Also the Frances NF is good Very durable, which helps. The Dinah is fragile, but does engage. Just plan to lose a lot of them.

The Randy C NF is very good.

In the end, it's about damaging the beasts so it throws off their aim and more of them are lost to flak as well.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/11/2018 3:23:22 PM

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1st-10th March 44

This period is mainly noticeable for Kane going on a fighter sweep offensive everywhere on the map and he enjoys between a 3:1 and 10:1 kill ratio everywhere. Only the Frank can stand up to his fighters now, my Zeros take horrific losses. I've got plenty of planes in the pools but my reserve of pilots is dwindling quickly. However I did manage one good turn over Moulmein when his B24s come in unescorted after only a few sweeps beforehand:

So even allowing for the extra FOW losses he must have lost at least 60 B24s on the day.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/11/2018 3:44:38 PM

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Am I correct in thinking that the Allies only get about 500 of that P47? 500 of the 2nd type for around 1000 total until Dec of 44 or something?

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/11/2018 4:59:48 PM

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Am I correct in thinking that the Allies only get about 500 of that P47? 500 of the 2nd type for around 1000 total until Dec of 44 or something?

No idea but here's hoping. I'm sure that loss total for them is about half in reality.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/11/2018 5:49:04 PM

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Am I correct in thinking that the Allies only get about 500 of that P47? 500 of the 2nd type for around 1000 total until Dec of 44 or something?

No idea but here's hoping. I'm sure that loss total for them is about half in reality.

I've been trying to remember without opening the game...

The D25 model is 175 x 4 months, then there is a several months long hiatus until the N model in March or April '45. The first model P-37, I think it's the D, arrives for a greater number of months but the quantity is far less. That 1,000 figure might be a good ballpark, maybe even high.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/14/2018 12:10:07 AM

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11th-20th March 44

I've split my CV fleet into two halves. The the fast 30Kt+ CVs are at Singers, while the rest (Kaga, Junyo/Hiyo and all the CVL/Es) remain at Babeldaob. He has had an RN surface fleet sitting under 150 fighters at Ramree Is for a good while now which does the occasional bombardment of Moulmein. I tried a co-ordinated attack on it sending my CVs on a high speed run to get in range undectected whilst setting 200 Franks to sweep from Moulmein plus 150 Oscars on low naval attack. Unfortunately the weather gods prevented any attack other than unescorted B24s hitting Moulmein, destroying 100 a/c, mostly Oscars on the ground

Back to the drawing board.

One bright spot is the result of his first ground attack my his mega stack there:
Ground combat at Moulmein (55,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 238758 troops, 3940 guns, 4259 vehicles, Assault Value = 9495

Defending force 150939 troops, 1527 guns, 2029 vehicles, Assault Value = 4357

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 4865

Japanese adjusted defense: 37727

Allied assault odds: 1 to 7 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4949 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 303 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 90 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 259 disabled
Guns lost 165 (17 destroyed, 148 disabled)
Vehicles lost 78 (16 destroyed, 62 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
23034 casualties reported
Squads: 523 destroyed, 2219 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 758 disabled
Engineers: 40 destroyed, 660 disabled
Guns lost 426 (79 destroyed, 347 disabled)
Vehicles lost 463 (11 destroyed, 452 disabled)

Assaulting units:
11th (East African) Division
26th Indian Division
6th Australian Division
Provisionl Tank Brigade
XXXIII Corps Engineer Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
25th Indian Division
7th Australian Division
1st New Chinese Corps
9th Indian Division
50th Tank Brigade
Gardner's Horse Regiment
3rd Cavalry Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
22nd (East African) Brigade
19th Indian Division
5th Indian Division
Guides Cavalry Regiment
2nd British Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
18th British Division
255th Armoured Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
XV Corps Engineer Battalion
5th Chinese Corps
11th Indian Division
17th Indian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
209th Combat Engineer Battalion
9th Australian Division
2/9th Field Regiment
48th Light AA Regiment
III Indian Corps
77th Heavy AA Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment
28th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
IV Indian Corps
6th Medium Regiment
29th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XV Indian Corps
42nd Cavalry Engineer Regiment
2/13th Field Regiment
2/11th Field Regiment
16th Indian Heavy AA Regiment
I Australian Corps
85th British AT Gun Regiment
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st RM Heavy AA Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
30th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
848th Engineer Aviation Battalion

Defending units:
14th Division
4th Division
3rd Tank Division
4th Raiding Regiment
4th Tank Regiment
9th Division
2nd Division
10th Division
1st Division
27th Electric Engineer Regiment
33rd Division
55th Division
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment
58th Field AA Battalion
7th JAAF Base Force
41st Ind.AA Gun Co
53rd Field AA Battalion
35th Const Co
15th Army
16th Army
28th Army
9th RF Gun Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
8th Area Army
Burma Area Army
48th Road Const Co
55th Construction Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
46th Road Const Co
47th Road Const Co
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Southern Army
2nd Air Division
11th Shipping Engineer Regiment
54th Construction Battalion
56th Construction Battalion
55th Field AA Battalion
36th Const Co
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
59th Field AA Battalion
34th Const Co
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
54th Field AA Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Regiment
6th Naval Construction Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th RF Gun Battalion
5th Naval Construction Battalion
11th JAAF Base Force

I'm not sure I've seen a higher adjusted AV than that in all my games up to now.

Elsewhere he is very active in the air in China with daily sweeps and B24 raids, I've simply withdrawn all my fighters out of range for the time being. Recon shows he now has 60+ units at Chihkiang so I'm rather worried he is going to make a big push from there soon. I'm scraping up what I can to try and be ready for it. Meanwhile down at Darwin he has marched a division and a few bits and pieces up to it and it is also getting the daily B24 treatment. I've plenty of transports in the area to lift out the div and support units there when the time comes...

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/14/2018 12:45:22 AM

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10% casualties number wise but about 25% AV wise is a very good battle for you.

Is there any way that you could possibly trap him there? That would put him in a difficult position.

If you can put MTB TFs to pop in and out of Moulmein, you could possible have his SCTF left in the open for your LBA and your KB air. Combine that with mini subs and you could wreck a few ships. If he lets his DDs bombard, some minefields there will also help.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/14/2018 3:40:01 AM

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11th-20th March 44

I've split my CV fleet into two halves. The the fast 30Kt+ CVs are at Singers, while the rest (Kaga, Junyo/Hiyo and all the CVL/Es) remain at Babeldaob. He has had an RN surface fleet sitting under 150 fighters at Ramree Is for a good while now which does the occasional bombardment of Moulmein. I tried a co-ordinated attack on it sending my CVs on a high speed run to get in range undectected whilst setting 200 Franks to sweep from Moulmein plus 150 Oscars on low naval attack. Unfortunately the weather gods prevented any attack other than unescorted B24s hitting Moulmein, destroying 100 a/c, mostly Oscars on the ground Back to the drawing board.

One bright spot is the result of his first ground attack my his mega stack there:
Ground combat at Moulmein (55,55)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 238758 troops, 3940 guns, 4259 vehicles, Assault Value = 9495

Defending force 150939 troops, 1527 guns, 2029 vehicles, Assault Value = 4357

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5

Allied adjusted assault: 4865

Japanese adjusted defense: 37727

Allied assault odds: 1 to 7 (fort level 5)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4949 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 303 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 90 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 259 disabled
Guns lost 165 (17 destroyed, 148 disabled)
Vehicles lost 78 (16 destroyed, 62 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
23034 casualties reported
Squads: 523 destroyed, 2219 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 758 disabled
Engineers: 40 destroyed, 660 disabled
Guns lost 426 (79 destroyed, 347 disabled)
Vehicles lost 463 (11 destroyed, 452 disabled)

I'm not sure I've seen a higher adjusted AV than that in all my games up to now.

Elsewhere he is very active in the air in China with daily sweeps and B24 raids, I've simply withdrawn all my fighters out of range for the time being. Recon shows he now has 60+ units at Chihkiang so I'm rather worried he is going to make a big push from there soon. I'm scraping up what I can to try and be ready for it. Meanwhile down at Darwin he has marched a division and a few bits and pieces up to it and it is also getting the daily B24 treatment. I've plenty of transports in the area to lift out the div and support units there when the time comes...

I have never seen a number that high � even the 10x multiplier would be one of the highest I've ever seen. GREAT roll!!!

PS: Is Southern army 100% preppe3d for Moulmein?

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/14/2018 1:13:30 PM

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Another great result!

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/14/2018 5:52:43 PM

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PS: Is Southern army 100% preppe3d for Moulmein?

Must be both that and some army HQ, plus many LCUs prepared themselves cause it is the latter that translates HQ bonus into real AV multipliers. Combined HQs are great if you have the time to perpare them and all the LCUs for the bottleneck base.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/14/2018 10:17:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Am I correct in thinking that the Allies only get about 500 of that P47? 500 of the 2nd type for around 1000 total until Dec of 44 or something?

No idea but here's hoping. I'm sure that loss total for them is about half in reality.

I've been trying to remember without opening the game...

The D25 model is 175 x 4 months, then there is a several months long hiatus until the N model in March or April '45. The first model P-37, I think it's the D, arrives for a greater number of months but the quantity is far less. That 1,000 figure might be a good ballpark, maybe even high.

I've been looking at the numbers. These are from the accumulated losses, build numbers and numbers in pools combined taken from my late Allied game. So they account for airframes that were manufactured and those that arrived in groups.

P-38G 10-42 > 05-43
Total Build: 195 (with group airframe arrivals)

F4U-1 arrival dates: 01-43 > 09-43
Total Build: 385 (with group airframe arrivals)

F6F-3 Hellcat arrival date: 04-43 > 06-44
Total Build: 2,608 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-38H arrival date: 06-43 > 11-43
Total Build: 295 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-47D2 arrival date: 07-43 > 02-44
Total Build: 635 (with group airframe arrivals)

F4U-1A arrival date: 10-43 > 12/44 (continues producing and arriving until 06/45)
Total Build: 1173 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-38J arrival date: 12-43 > 05/44
Total Build: 330 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-51B arrival date: 03-44 >10-44
Total Build: 260 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-47D25 arrival date: 03-44 > 06/44
Total Build: 800 (with group airframe arrivals)

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/15/2018 12:22:36 AM

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10% casualties number wise but about 25% AV wise is a very good battle for you. Is there any way that you could possibly trap him there? That would put him in a difficult position.

If you can put MTB TFs to pop in and out of Moulmein, you could possible have his SCTF left in the open for your LBA and your KB air. Combine that with mini subs and you could wreck a few ships. If he lets his DDs bombard, some minefields there will also help.

Would love to do the mine/PT boat combo but he has Moulmein pretty much locked down with his bombardment and massive air threat. I tried to sneak a mine laying TF in a few weeks back but they were swamped by his low flying B25s and destroyed. I don't have the supply to create any PT boat TFs.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/15/2018 12:23:53 AM

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PS: Is Southern army 100% preppe3d for Moulmein?

Must be both that and some army HQ, plus many LCUs prepared themselves cause it is the latter that translates HQ bonus into real AV multipliers. Combined HQs are great if you have the time to perpare them and all the LCUs for the bottleneck base.

Yes 4 or 5 HQs including Burma and Southern Army plus all divs all fully prepped.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/15/2018 12:31:28 AM

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Am I correct in thinking that the Allies only get about 500 of that P47? 500 of the 2nd type for around 1000 total until Dec of 44 or something?

No idea but here's hoping. I'm sure that loss total for them is about half in reality.

I've been trying to remember without opening the game...

The D25 model is 175 x 4 months, then there is a several months long hiatus until the N model in March or April '45. The first model P-37, I think it's the D, arrives for a greater number of months but the quantity is far less. That 1,000 figure might be a good ballpark, maybe even high.

I've been looking at the numbers. These are from the accumulated losses, build numbers and numbers in pools combined taken from my late Allied game. So they account for airframes that were manufactured and those that arrived in groups.

P-38G 10-42 > 05-43
Total Build: 195 (with group airframe arrivals)

F4U-1 arrival dates: 01-43 > 09-43
Total Build: 385 (with group airframe arrivals)

F6F-3 Hellcat arrival date: 04-43 > 06-44
Total Build: 2,608 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-38H arrival date: 06-43 > 11-43
Total Build: 295 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-47D2 arrival date: 07-43 > 02-44
Total Build: 635 (with group airframe arrivals)

F4U-1A arrival date: 10-43 > 12/44 (continues producing and arriving until 06/45)
Total Build: 1173 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-38J arrival date: 12-43 > 05/44
Total Build: 330 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-51B arrival date: 03-44 >10-44
Total Build: 260 (with group airframe arrivals)

P-47D25 arrival date: 03-44 > 06/44
Total Build: 800 (with group airframe arrivals)

Thanks for the figures Obvert. I've barely put a dent in any of those numbers I'm afraid. He uses his best airframes solely for sweeping and is very careful not to fly them for extended periods in order to keep up morale and lessen fatigue. He has plenty of crap such as the P40 and Hurricanes to escort his bombers the short distances involved in Burma/Thailand and China.

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RE: Miller (J) vs Mr Kane (A) - 8/16/2018 1:06:40 AM

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21st-31st March 44

Looks like he's switched his main focus to China now. Most of his B24s are bombing my bases there rather than Moulmein.

The BC Renown takes a sub torp after bombarding Moulmein but that's a rare bright spot. He has large British CA and CL TFs bombarding there every day and on the last day of the month I decide to take a crack at them, throwing in 100 TBs and 100 DBs from the KB transferred to Bangkok and the surrounding bases, along with Oscars flying low level attacks. The plan was for Franks to sweep Rangoon where his ships are re-loading but of course they do it after my bombers go in and despite decent escort the bulk of my bombers fly into a 200 plane CAP and get shredded. Over the course of the day I lose a grand total of 350 planes for 50, including almost all the TBs, in return I do moderate damage to 2 or 3 CAs. The one minor consolation is a fair number of the KB pilots survive despite going down over enemy territory. A mini disaster none the less....

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