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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 5:40:21 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 5:46:35 AM   
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Is this correct? No garrison for USSR in Persia... Game rolled for Persia and it shows there is no garrison at all.




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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 11:47:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		40 MJ EOT continued:
US entry chit v JP. Another poor chit drawn. USE is not in good shape. Despite what seems like plenty of chits there is only 1 chit above a 2 and plenty of 1's.




I'll pass by prod plan prelim for all countries since this can be done by clicking on production planning during SaS or RTB phases.

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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 12:00:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		CW is usually very tricky for prod planning and often completely broken in MWIF but this turn things seem ok. Here is what they look like. US lending of oil has helped along with stopping lending to France. Hopefully after a few turns of this some oil reserve will be built.




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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 12:46:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll pass EOT file to Mayhemizer. Here are instructions for RTB:
US all ships to San Diego
CW:
BOB: Ramilles+Cornwall+TRS(carrying NAV2) to Gib, other ships to Plymouth
N Atl: all ships to Gib
GoG: Queens to Gib, CA to Aden
CVB: all ships to Gib
Cape Basin: all ships to Aden
CSV: all ships to Gib, but 1 CW TRS to Cape Town, and Dutch TRS to Plymouth
SW Indian Ocean: 2 cp's to Adelaide

US oil: spend max .45 (don't burn an oil) - priority reorg is cp's and TRS
CW oil: Spend 3.45 oil (don't burn Port of Spain but use .45 of that res) leave following units not reorged:
Effingham
Manchester
Glorious
Niels Juel
Terror
Erebus
De Ruyter
Eagle
York
Furious
Newcastle
1cp Seychelles
Kent
Gloucester
Devonshire
Norfolk
Royal Sovereign
Repulse
Barham
Australia
Exeter

Builds:
US lend lease Boston I and Maryland to France
If there is any way to "give back" the lend lease Boston I from CW (who doesn't want it) to FR or US pls do that
US: BBfd,GAR,1cp save the rest in different cities (1 per city)
CW: PIL,FTR2,CVfd,HQI,supply,MOT, save 1
CH: WL,INF

Reinf:
CH: GAR->Kunming
US: SUB: San Diego, cp Norfolk, plane in reserve
CW: add PIL to Swordfish NAV2.
cp Liverpool, GAR Calcutta, Whirlwind Southampton, Swordfish Liverpool
remove PIL from Harrrow


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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 1:21:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jjdenver

40 MJ EOT continued:
US entry chit v JP. Another poor chit drawn. USE is not in good shape. Despite what seems like plenty of chits there is only 1 chit above a 2 and plenty of 1's.




I'll pass by prod plan prelim for all countries since this can be done by clicking on production planning during SaS or RTB phases.


Abwehr thanks the New York times for printing this information... This should be highly classified information...

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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 7:54:26 PM   
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Production (5)
Save oil ?

1xPil (2)
1xTac3 (3)

Return to base
All Navy+sub to La Spezia.

Stay at Sea
2* CA in Italian Cost
All CP stay.

Use Oil max 1,45 (priority, reogranize all planes, trs, if needed leave some CA disrupted(worst naval combat rating)

Reinforcement Nav at Trapani

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Japan
Production (17)
Save no oil?
1xMot (4)
1xMtn (4)
1xAt (3)
1xFtr2 (2)
1xCV face up (2) Zuikaku
1xPil (2)

Return to base
TRS loaded with 4-3 Inf Port Arthur
CA+unloded TRS Fukuoka

Stay at Sea
All CP stay.

Use Oil max 1,45 (priority, HQ,reogranize all planes, trs, if needed leave some CA disrupted(worst naval combat rating)

Destroy factor at Kweiyang.



Reinforcement 6-1 Gar, 6-4 Inf Fukuoka, 6-3 Inf Tokeyo

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RE: 4 player game - 10/24/2018 11:14:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jjdenver

40 MJ EOT continued:
US entry chit v JP. Another poor chit drawn. USE is not in good shape. Despite what seems like plenty of chits there is only 1 chit above a 2 and plenty of 1's.




I'll pass by prod plan prelim for all countries since this can be done by clicking on production planning during SaS or RTB phases.


Abwehr thanks the New York times for printing this information... This should be highly classified information...
Or maybe, this is fake to throw the other side off.


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RE: 4 player game - 10/25/2018 10:05:33 AM   
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Preliminary planning:
Germany - No changes needed - 18BPs

All CPs stay at sea.

Oil reorganisation:
All units reorganized for 3 oil (3.3). Use 1 oil in Prague and 2 in Berlin.

Breakdown:
No

Production:
Germany (18):
ENG
INF
FTR3
Pilot
Synth Oil

Reinforcements:

Germany:
ATR3 -> Saarbrucken
PARA Div + INF -> Saarbrucken
BB + SUB -> Kiel

Volontary Resource Lending:

Modified
Germany -> Italy 6 resources (no oil)

Axis goes first if we win the initiative.

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 5:31:37 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 6:31:36 AM   
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Am I missing something, or why CW can't build supply unit?





Looks like a bug to me...

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 1:09:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can’t build supply unit even if I build it before anything else. Can others try that too to make sure it’s not my autosave that causes problems.

If CW has 3 oils, can it build fighter, HQ-I and supply unit same turn?

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 1:58:08 PM   
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Am I missing something, or why CW can't build supply unit?




No bug.

All 3 BPs for the supply unit must come from oil. Since the CW PM is only 0,75 the 3 oil only equals 2 BPs. 4 oil need to be produced for to build a supply unit.

3 x 0.75 = 2.25
4 x 0.75 = 3

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 1:59:13 PM   
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I can’t build supply unit even if I build it before anything else. Can others try that too to make sure it’s not my autosave that causes problems.

If CW has 3 oils, can it build fighter, HQ-I and supply unit same turn?

Yes. The only unit that needs oil for production is the supply unit. Although, at the moment, 4 oil is needed to build the supply unit.

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 2:43:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		4 oil are sent to production in the file I think:
Estevan
Charleston
US 72,280
Port of Spain

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 3:40:25 PM   
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4 oil are sent to production in the file I think:
Estevan
Charleston
US 72,280
Port of Spain

Yes, I just checked that 4 oil is routed to CW production during the stay at sea step. However, in the picture shown above there are only 3 CW oil going to production., I assume that that picture is from the production step. So one can suspect that something has changed between those two points. Maybe CP returned to base that was needed? The wrong oil was used for reorganisation. Or something might have been changed in the final recourse routing step.

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 3:48:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I went back to the 'return to base' save I got and just advanced every step to production. Didn't use any oil for reorganization. CW was then able to build the supply unit.

Edit: It was actually the 'stay at sea' save that I used.

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 6:43:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I go back to oil use and CW leaves 10 more ships disogranized and builds supply unit.

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 8:38:22 PM   
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Save oil from US to Toulouse. Use 2 oil from Paris to Production.

Stay at Sea and RTB
All possible ships stay at sea.
2 CAs to Morocco and Senegal.

Oil use
Japan 0,4
Italy 0,9
France reorg all for 0,6
USSR reorg all for 0,8

Production

France 7
MIL
INF
Save 2 BPs

USSR 14
CAV
PIL
INF x2
SUB 2nd x2
Save 2 BPs

Persia and Cyprus are conquered.

Reinforcements

CW also places pilot to FTR3 -> Bristol
GAR Calcutta

France
MIL Lyons
MOT and BB Marseilles

USSR
HQ to Chita
INF to Vladivostok

ComChi GAR to Sian

USSR removes pilots from all planes.


France sends their full production to CW.
US stops sending oil to France.

Allies win initiative and Axis go first.

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RE: 4 player game - 10/26/2018 8:40:22 PM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 1:35:15 AM   
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Allies win initiative and Axis go first.


... Wait, what?

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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 5:40:42 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 9:21:16 AM   
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Land: Japan
Combined: Germany, Italy
Naval:

No port strikes.

Naval air:
Italy fly the FTR2 on Sicily to the 2-box of the Western Mediterranean.

Naval movement:

Germany:
Two U-boats leave Kiel for the 2-box in the North Atlantic.
One U-boat sail for the 2-box of the Faeroes Gap.

Italy:
Task force 3 (1 BB, 2 CA, 1 TRS) leave La Spezia for the 2-box of the West Med. The TRS embark the HQI from Tripoli.



Picture from Jul/Aug '40 Impulse #1 (Axis) - Naval Movement

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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 9:25:51 AM   
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Picture from Jul/Aug '40 Impulse #1 (Axis) - Naval Combat

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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 9:35:01 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 9:40:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Germany use 2 surprise points to reduce damage and the remaining points to increase the damage done to the CW convoy.

Germany stay for another round of combat.

Will CW stay or abort?

And what port will be used for the aborting CP? Or if they all abort?



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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 9:42:18 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 9:56:15 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 10:03:58 AM   
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RE: 4 player game - 10/27/2018 10:07:12 AM   
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