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JU 87B-R aircraft id#71 - 6/10/2018 7:47:07 PM

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Judging by the drop tank in weapon set 4, I think this Stuka model is supposed to be a JU 87R (-/1 thru -/4). Descriptive literature often combines marks B & R together, because they only vary in the modified wings accommodating extra 150-liter port and starboard fuel tanks and underwing hardpoints for drop tanks on the R. Type R was designed for longer-range sorties, particularly favored for land-based anti-ship strikes (unrelated to type C aircraft carrier version) and missions over Great Britain. I believe type R was only JU 87 fitted for two 300-litre under-wing drop tanks replacing the four 50-kg bomb hard points. The R typically carried a 250-kg GP bomb as main armament, but was capable of carrying the 500-kg bomb for shorter ranges.

Bottom-line, type R = type B with up to 900-liter additional fuel capacity. Pretty sure 87B-R is an error. If I am correct, you need to correct the data, at least to reflect increased range. Data displays range for 2x240-liter inboard wing fuel tank configuration.

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RE: JU 87B-R aircraft id#71 - 6/10/2018 8:49:37 PM

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Ju 87R had the same internal fuel as the Ju 87B but had provision for underwing drop tanks, only Ju 87D/G had the 2x 150l outer-wing tanks
It was commonly loaded with 500kg bomb and both droptanks on LR missions.
Ju 87D was DT-capable too.

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RE: JU 87B-R aircraft id#71 - 6/10/2018 9:42:05 PM

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quote:

Ju 87R had the same internal fuel as the Ju 87B but had provision for underwing drop tanks, only Ju 87D/G had the 2x 150l outer-wing tanks
It was commonly loaded with 500kg bomb and both droptanks on LR missions.
Ju 87D was DT-capable too.

Please share your source, Denniss. All of mine agree that the R had four wing tanks and hardpoints for drop tanks, the B only two wing tanks.
Regardless, I infer from your reply the Ju 87B-R (id 71) is actually two a/c; 87B with significantly larger bomb payload; 87R with significantly longer range and reduced payload.
Two different data sets.

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RE: JU 87B-R aircraft id#71 - 6/11/2018 7:32:39 AM

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Original manuals (incl. load plans) are pretty clear about this - main tanks and drop tanks but no additional wing tanks.
The Ju 87B-R slot represents more the R than the B and is used for Ju 87B in the WitE series.

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RE: JU 87B-R aircraft id#71 - 6/11/2018 8:56:10 PM

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Ju 87R-1 fuel system