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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 12:17:50 AM   
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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 12:20:20 AM   
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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 12:25:35 AM   
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Here is what SHOULD happen tomorrow. I figure the enemy will try to close and catch the CVs. NOPE! I want to catch his...





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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 12:27:33 AM   
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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 1:08:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Turn sent to my aggressive opponent!

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A few:

1. Staggering A2A losses there. Amazing. Carnage. Atta boy.

2. With such little damage to the enemy flattops, I would not have thrown my surface forces at them. Perhaps if there were a few cripples or those with too much damage to mount flight operations. But all he's got to do is sidestep your reposte and you'll be in for a beating with perfectly good ships in the morning for naught.

3. What sort of antiship aerial platforms do you have at Rabaul, Kavieng and Truk? If you've effectively deplaned his main CV fleet, it may be "Netty time" for some of those Allied ships in the Bismarck Sea and surrounds as well as the deplaned CVs near Truk.

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 1:13:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		With those air losses, Anachro's carriers should be pretty weak. He'll have to retire.

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 11:22:16 AM   
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With those air losses, Anachro's carriers should be pretty weak. He'll have to retire.



Yes, but it was clearly an Allied tactical victory.

Far more Japanese ships took hits than Allied ships.

JIII can ballyhoo the Allied air losses all he wants, but it doesn't change the fact that his ships got hit harder.

And I seriously doubt the Allied main fleet has been deplaned.

I bet they still have enough teeth left to put a hurting on whatever comes chasing them.


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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 11:28:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		My comment was limited to what Anachro would do with his carrier TFs tomorrow, not to the outcome of the battle. With those air losses, I think he'll retire.

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 1:45:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My comment was limited to what Anachro would do with his carrier TFs tomorrow, not to the outcome of the battle. With those air losses, I think he'll retire.


My bet is he won't. He is too aggressive to stop.

The STF I sent out all have the steaming ability to make it back to Truk without issue. Have 200+ Fighters at Truk and have some on LRCAP to protect any damaged/straggling ships.

The CVs will be well north of Truk and still have nearly 225 Fighters that will be set on 90% CAP. He can come again and I will finish off his striking power.

As to Chickenboy's thoughts, Planes were moved into Hollandia, Madang, Finschhaven, and Lunga. See if we can hit anything not involved at the moment.

Hans: As normal you are a font of joy, I didn't claim a victory. YET AGAIN I have crippled his airpower (3rd time this has happened) but not been able to do effective work against his actual CVs. Frustrating but it could be much worse. Yep--you are correct--he has a tactical victory in that my CVs are damaged and he has the sea. BUT he will have to withdraw to replenish and then I shall go back to work on his units...

Really want to know what his goals are here? No new landings. Looks like he supplied Manus because the unit count has not changed at all and I am doing recon there every turn.

Aitape, Wewak, and Hollandia all got their troops unloaded.

Got to see how this plays out...


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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 1:51:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Turn sent to my aggressive opponent!

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A few:

1. Staggering A2A losses there. Amazing. Carnage. Atta boy.

2. With such little damage to the enemy flattops, I would not have thrown my surface forces at them. Perhaps if there were a few cripples or those with too much damage to mount flight operations. But all he's got to do is sidestep your reposte and you'll be in for a beating with perfectly good ships in the morning for naught.

3. What sort of antiship aerial platforms do you have at Rabaul, Kavieng and Truk? If you've effectively deplaned his main CV fleet, it may be "Netty time" for some of those Allied ships in the Bismarck Sea and surrounds as well as the deplaned CVs near Truk.


By TRACKER, these are the losses in the CV Fight over the KB: Japan loses 52 M5 and 13 M5a while the Allies lose 62 Fighters, 164 DB, and 126 TB.

His Fighter strength is largely unaffected but his striking power is probably reduced--what do you think??--50%.


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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 2:38:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was OTHER action this turn.

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MISTER FRANK advances into November 43--T-Minus Four Months. Still betting that it goes into production at the end of August. CANNOT wait!

Diego Garcia
The enemy has abandoned his troops that are ashore. After failing to reduce the Forts on the 9th, the Allies try again on the 10th. Result: 1-3 Forts stay at 4, 232 Japanese Cas to 498 Cas and 8 Guns of the Allies.

Fly in a Nell Group to go with the Betty Chutai and begin bombing the troops. This should really draw the attention of the enemy. Four Japanese CVs will enter the area in two days. I INTEND to get some serious sinking here. We'll avenge our damaged brothers and sisters!

Reinforcements are now on the way for Diego. If possible, we wish to kill the 20th Indian ID and and that Aussie Brigade!

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/25/2019 11:51:38 PM   
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VERY QUIET DAY! Dan was right. He pulls back.

My STFs whiff looking for him. One CA TF, of course, ignores orders and draws a small attack in the afternoon of 32 F, 10 DB, and 5 Av. They deal with a CAP of 8 Rex. I have a CA take a bomb for minimal damage and he loses about eight aircraft. Japanese AA, surprisingly, knocks down five planes. Nothing else happens over here. The damaged CVLs make Truk and the rest make for either Truk or Saipan.

He is in full withdraw mode. Strange. Didn't take anything at all. Think he dropped off supplies and mines at Manus but that is about it.

BIG NEWS: China
Hex 75,50 This hex is between Tuyun and Kweiyang. Three Japanese ID and three Artillery units Shock Attack the SIXTEEN Chinese units there and get a 2-1. Glorious. The enemy retreats into the jungle where he will be surrounded once Tuyun is taken. Casualties ROCK: Japan 2255 Cas, 12 Guns, and 5 Vehicles for 12,711 (904 Squads). Nice work.

Diego Garcia
No Allied attack. His troops are hit by 32 Betty/Nell for over 100 Cas. A small Allied STF is spotted approaching.

There are now four convoys carrying 3 Naval Guard and the 4th ID heading for DG. The CVs are three days away and in combat range in two...





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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/26/2019 2:54:47 PM   
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The enemy withdraws to a point SSE of Rabaul to cover his other TFs leaving. Still have no idea what was accomplished in this fight other then the CV Engagement. NO landings, lots of bombardments, and the CV fight. Well...OK...

Surface Fights
Last turn I detached two groups of 4 DDs to try to catch the enemy. Looks like Sean had the same idea. There are two surface engagements during the night of the 12th:

4 Moon-Class DD vs. 5 DD: No damage to the Japanese with moderate damage done 2 American DDs.

4 Kagero-Class DDs vs 3 CA and 4 DD: Good potential in this fight. One Jap Tin Can takes moderate damage in exchange for a TT hit on CA Chester, serious damage to 3 DDs, and DD Stribling SUNK by a Long Lance.

The eight DDs make it to Rabaul with no issues, refuel, and reload. They will move on to Fischhaven tomorrow.

Hansa Bay
13 4EB hit the Port and sink an already crippled AD sinking it.

Ground Action
China 76,48
A single Japanese ID launches a Shock Attack against 12 Chinese units and score a 1-1. CRAZY! Just miss that magical 2-1 number by a score of 182 to 93. Very close...

Burma N of Katha
The 18th ID chased a Brigade and catches up to it. The attack is ordered but 78 4EB and 65 2EB hit the unit during the day. This upsets the assault and it come in at 1-3. Casualties aren't bad so we'll have to think on that some.

Diego Garcia
All Transports are moving. A small enemy STF is spotted. Divert all Convoys away and detach a STF from the Japanese CVs of 2 CA, 1 CL, and 4 DD to 'deal with it.' No bombardment or attack by th Allied units. Surely Sean knows that something has to be done quickly or he will lose those two ground units.

Carriers
Everyone reaches Saipan without issue. Looks like I will send 2 CV and 2 CVL back to Japan for repairs. Everyone else has minor damage so they'll sit here and repair it. Begin re-forming air groups and getting re-organized here.






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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/26/2019 10:06:21 PM   
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One CA TF, of course, ignores orders and draws a small attack in the afternoon of 32 F, 10 DB, and 5 Av. They deal with a CAP of 8 Rex. I have a CA take a bomb for minimal damage and he loses about eight aircraft. Japanese AA, surprisingly, knocks down five planes.


Technically speaking, I was right too.

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/26/2019 11:29:44 PM   
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MISTER FRANK advances into November 43--T-Minus Four Months. Still betting that it goes into production at the end of August. CANNOT wait!


P-47D2 come in at 60/month in July '43.

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/27/2019 3:44:01 AM   
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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/27/2019 3:44:29 AM   
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One CA TF, of course, ignores orders and draws a small attack in the afternoon of 32 F, 10 DB, and 5 Av. They deal with a CAP of 8 Rex. I have a CA take a bomb for minimal damage and he loses about eight aircraft. Japanese AA, surprisingly, knocks down five planes.


Technically speaking, I was right too.



OK...fine...you were right too...


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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/27/2019 4:20:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now is everyone better???!!! I mean can we get back to the war NOW?

Ohhhhh...wait...we cannot because I don't have a flipping turn to run.

OK. Back to giving credit to everyone for everything.

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 5:11:06 AM   
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Several quiet days follow the Allied Fleet's withdrawal to Aussieland.

Naturally, the Japanese immediately begin moving around.

1. The CD unit meant for Umboi Isle was diverted to Hollandia and now heads for its original destination.
2. Several supply convoys that were held back now make for Madang, Rabaul, Lunga, and Truk.
3. To Cover the Umboi Landing and a hoped for pick-up of the remains of an ID at Lae, a BB TF and CV TF move to provide some serious backbone to the Operations.
4. AF work to recover and fill up the craters creating by the Allied bombardments.
5. Rotate Fighters and Bombers to bring groups together, fill out reinforcements, and gain airframes.
6. A TF arrives at Ndeni to lift off the 9th ID. IT is now 60% prepped for a Manus Landing and I need it.
7. I intend to pull off three IDs used in the last three weeks of operations to rebuild my mobile reserve.

Over in the IO, the operation to destroy the Indian 20th ID and the Aussie Brigade proceeds as the first troop reinforcements land in the 15th. By the 18th--19th, nearly 1.5 ID will be landed and we shall destroy to two Allied units. Akagi--Amagi--Hiryu--Soryu sit about 250 miles from Diego Garcia WAITING for a chance to strike high value targets.

My good opponent has fallen into operational patterns. For the last three days two large groups of B-25s have been hitting southern Burma. With 200+ Fighters at Rangoon, we decide to set an ambush and the Americans fall right into it. 44 B-25 run into a low CAP of 43 JACK (10K), TOJO (5K), and TONY (5K). They have a very enjoyable lunch!





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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 5:13:00 AM   
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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 12:58:49 PM   
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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 4:02:41 PM   
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I am becoming convinced that he doesn't plan an overland assault into Burma. My bet would be Akyab--Ramree or skip the area completely and stage an assault into Northern Malaya or into Sumatra. He could have started the overland attack months ago but--so far--NOTHING. This leads me to the other thinking. If I am wrong then that is BAD.

Have to get my Reserves back and resting so I am able to move with a stack of 1,200--1,500 AV to move to whatever the threatened point is.

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 4:05:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks to Tracker I see that Manus goes to a Lvl-1 AF. Would have missed it otherwise. Cancel all the bomber runs there for next turn and order SWEEPS by two GEORGE Daitai as well as a JACK unit. He moved a CV TF to a hex from Milne and I bet they are transferring Fighters there. They shall get a Day ONE hot reception!


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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 4:42:42 PM   
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Have to get my Reserves back and resting so I am able to move with a stack of 1,200--1,500 AV to move to whatever the threatened point is.


Hooray for theater reserves! Glad to see this is a part of your planning. Whatcha got for that and where?

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 8:40:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Before this assault by the Allies, I had three ID at Singapore and three ID in the Marianas. This gave me a strong Reaction Force in either area if needed.


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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 9/30/2019 9:01:42 PM   
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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 10/1/2019 1:53:38 AM   
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Tax Police are TOUGH. They came up with the original saying of "I ain't got time to bleed!"

Those boys are tough backstops for the GEISHAS...

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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 10/4/2019 2:14:28 PM   
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The enemy has gone totally quiet. NO interference with the following operations:

1. I have landed a full ID and support units at Diego Garcia. You can write off the 20th Indian ID and an Aussie Brigade within days. Killing more Allied LCU: NICE!

2. Landed a CD unit at Umboi as well as one at Finschhaven. Covered by Mutsu--Nagato and a CV TF of 1 CV and 3 CVL carrying just ZEROs.

3. Moving units and supplies among the bases on the northside of New Guinea.

4. Lifting the 9th ID off of Ndeni.

5. Lifting two ID off of Kavieng.

The 9th and two Kavieng IDs will be used in a three division landing at Manus.

That is about it...


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RE: The Shattered Sword: John 3rd vs. Anachro--BTS - 10/4/2019 9:33:43 PM   
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Diego Garcia

The Diego Garcia Operation has gone swimmingly.

The two Allied LCU are about to die. This turn saw orders go out for a Deliberate Attack on the 20th. A bombardment on the 19th should have served to ALARM the enemy. Our hope is bring a fight about with Allied Naval Forces.

To do that, the Japanese are going to bombardment the Island this turn and next. At that point the Japanese shipping will 'withdraw' allowing for the enemy to come charging down from India--Ceylon to rescue their troops.

The reality shall be that it is all a ruse to draw out the enemy. CARDIV1 and CARDIV2 will wait and then POUNCE on the approaching enemy warships. All warships that bombard Diego Garcia shall move out join into the CVs TF. This will also serve to allow the actual screen protecting the CVs to be freed up for attack.

Approaching convoys carrying supplies and fuel also serve as a 'lure.' We'll see if my opponent has any impulse control issues!





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