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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/13/2019 1:26:27 PM   
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The Adak invasion is a go, the 24th Army HQ will provide leadership, two full divisions at 100 prep will land into the teeth of American CD guns and what is no doubt a heavily fortified base in the winter time.

The game hangs in the balance here.






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 3:07:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wonder if 2 ID's are enough if there is a full USA DIV present … This is Dec 42, so I would be worried about a couple of Tank Bn's. I don't have your intel, so not sure what might be there.

Watching in anticipation.



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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 7:23:56 AM   
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I wonder if 2 ID's are enough if there is a full USA DIV present … This is Dec 42, so I would be worried about a couple of Tank Bn's. I don't have your intel, so not sure what might be there.

Continuous BB bombardments can eventually wreck everything on Adak. Specifically running up the disruption of the strong defenders. Invasion forces would still take some time to prevail though, mainly due to that 30% winter disablement

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 11:29:35 AM   
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I wonder if 2 ID's are enough if there is a full USA DIV present … This is Dec 42, so I would be worried about a couple of Tank Bn's. I don't have your intel, so not sure what might be there.

Continuous BB bombardments can eventually wreck everything on Adak. Specifically running up the disruption of the strong defenders. Invasion forces would still take some time to prevail though, mainly due to that 30% winter disablement

I'm not saying it can't be done, and yes bombardments are one way to do it.

Just saying that this will be interesting and I will be enjoying watching this.

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:06:12 PM   
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Ohh! It is so cold...

and the invasion force is attacked by sub first thing, no damage, press on...press on.






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:07:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The battleships provide cover, after a heavy cruiser bombardment, but the defense is still strong...






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:10:36 PM   
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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:14:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		With dawn, the invasion beach is a mess. Only one battleship provides cover, but many AMCs' step up and provide return fire...still 2 transports are hit, and the troops take more losses landing .... but the beach head is reinforced.




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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:17:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		American subs try to hit the massive number of IJN shipping present...but strong aerial search and good destroyers and ASW task forces keep them at bay for now.




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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:19:48 PM   
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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:24:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, the weather outside is frightful...

some SBDs target a screen task force...they are intercepted and all planes miss.




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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:28:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The afternoon air strike also misses, while one transport sinks and 60 men are plucked alive from the sea, the invasion goes on....

631 Allied guns hinder the invasion, and by now most ships are out of ammunition.






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:32:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		A small supply convoy arrives, with a last minute addition of troops on board a slow merchantman, and the supplies are unloaded, but the troops gets punished...I wonder if it is both troops on the beach or just on the merchantman (as there are nowhere near that number on the merchant)?






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:36:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		The defenders launch a furious bombardment...but the IJN is ashore.


Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20255 troops, 344 guns, 178 vehicles, Assault Value = 684

Defending force 19261 troops, 124 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 701

Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
25th Infantry/C Division
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment
102nd Cmbt Engineer Regiment
1st/102nd Infantry Battalion
25th Infantry/A Division
87th Mountain Regiment
25th Infantry/B Division
1st USMC Parachute Bn /1
154th Field Artillery Battalion
94th Coast AA Regiment
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
95th Coast AA Regiment
2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
2nd Pioneer Battalion
Fort Lewis
6th Port Maint Engineer Battalion
53rd (Sep) Infantry Rgt /2
21st Port Maint Engineer Battalion
2nd Marine Defense Battalion
7th Base Group
14th MAG /1

Defending units:
5th Div /1

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:39:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		In relatively good shape...those guys can really dig with their shovels! They must have blundered into abandoned defensive structures? Don't think I ever saw that before.






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 12:42:12 PM   
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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 1:48:52 PM   
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The mini kb launches only one partial attack. Disappointing.






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 1:51:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		30+ American bombers are shot down over the screening task forces, while all night and day we waited for an American naval surge which never came...

instead an Allied shock attack attack on the beach head!






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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 1:52:30 PM   
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Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 22830 troops, 359 guns, 246 vehicles, Assault Value = 697

Defending force 19276 troops, 123 guns, 65 vehicles, Assault Value = 701

Allied adjusted assault: 278

Japanese adjusted defense: 595

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1308 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 81 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3617 casualties reported
Squads: 129 destroyed, 105 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 35 disabled
Guns lost 78 (24 destroyed, 54 disabled)
Vehicles lost 29 (3 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment
102nd Cmbt Engineer Regiment
25th Infantry/A Division
25th Infantry/C Division
1st/102nd Infantry Battalion
87th Mountain Regiment
25th Infantry/B Division
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1st USMC Parachute Bn /1
Fort Lewis
94th Coast AA Regiment
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
2nd Marine Defense Battalion
2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
21st Port Maint Engineer Battalion
154th Field Artillery Battalion
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
7th Base Group
53rd (Sep) Infantry Rgt /2
95th Coast AA Regiment
6th Port Maint Engineer Battalion
2nd Pioneer Battalion
14th MAG /1

Defending units:
24th Division
5th Division

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 1:53:41 PM   
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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 2:31:08 PM   
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In relatively good shape...those guys can really dig with their shovels! They must have blundered into abandoned defensive structures? Don't think I ever saw that before.

Woah, this is really something О_о
I've never seen anything like that either. Need to find that way to get insta-forts

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instead an Allied shock attack attack on the beach head!

Why, aargh?! Shooting themselves in the foot...
He knows well enough what is landing. Why batter yourself on the incoming mass of troops

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 3:53:17 PM   
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instead an Allied shock attack attack on the beach head!

Why, aargh?! Shooting themselves in the foot...
He knows well enough what is landing. Why batter yourself on the incoming mass of troops


Wargamr has been pretty consistent in instantly attacking beach heads, so I pare the invasion down to invite it.

55th Division is loading at Attu and will comprise a fair amount of the 2nd wave in a day or two or three.

Yamato will arrive close to Adak this next turn, beefing up my forces significantly. She will prowl once more, looking to react/attack surging Allied naval forces.

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 7:23:36 PM   
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I wonder if the 100% Prep had anything to do with the fast forts.

Good luck with the second wave.

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 7:36:32 PM   
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A small supply convoy arrives, with a last minute addition of troops on board a slow merchantman, and the supplies are unloaded, but the troops gets punished...I wonder if it is both troops on the beach or just on the merchantman (as there are nowhere near that number on the merchant)?






Losses in that situation would mostly be while unloading over the beach, but some could be from fires on ships hit previously too.

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 11:52:27 PM   
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Losses in that situation would mostly be while unloading over the beach, but some could be from fires on ships hit previously too.



I think there must be some fog of war inflating the losses.

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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 11:54:07 PM   
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The second wave goes in...

Pre-Invasion action off Adak Island (162,52) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

555 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
CA Nachi
CA Chokai
CL Agano
DD Asashio
xAK Hokkai Maru
DD Amagiri
PB Taian Maru
PB Shotoku Maru
PB Shosei Maru
PB Chiyo Maru #4
AMC Gokoku Maru

Japanese ground losses:
431 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
293 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

CA Kinugasa firing at 25th Infantry Division
CA Aoba firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at CA Aoba
CA Nachi firing at 25th Infantry Division
CA Chokai firing at 25th Infantry Division
CL Agano firing at 25th Infantry Division
DD Asashio firing at 25th Infantry Division
DD Amagiri firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
CA Kinugasa firing to suppress enemy battery at 6,000 yards
PB Taian Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Shotoku Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Shosei Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Chiyo Maru #4 fired at enemy troops
DD Asashio fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 4,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Adak Island (162,52)

TF 52 troops unloading over beach at Adak Island, 162,52

Japanese ground losses:
718 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 89 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (0 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)

17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost in surf during unload of 55th Div /7
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost from landing craft during unload of 55th Div /19
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad accidentally lost during unload of 55th Div /25
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 55th Div /28
17 troops of a IJA Inf Squad lost overboard during unload of 55th Div /37
15 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 55th Div /39


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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/14/2019 11:55:52 PM   
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Allies raw AV has dropped 200 points, and Japan will be ready for the first deliberate assault in a day or two.

Another invasion, targeting 8 American units will start to load tomorrow.

Ground combat at Adak Island (162,52)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 18405 troops, 335 guns, 180 vehicles, Assault Value = 523

Defending force 31347 troops, 278 guns, 96 vehicles, Assault Value = 999

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
25th Infantry Division
102nd Cmbt Engineer Regiment
1st/102nd Infantry Battalion
201st(Sep) Infantry Regiment
87th Mountain Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
95th Coast AA Regiment
7th Base Group
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
2nd Marine Defense Battalion
276th Coastal Artillery Battalion
94th Coast AA Regiment
2nd AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
21st Port Maint Engineer Battalion
6th Port Maint Engineer Battalion
53rd (Sep) Infantry Rgt /2
2nd Pioneer Battalion
154th Field Artillery Battalion
Fort Lewis
14th MAG /1

Defending units:
5th Division
24th Division
55th Division


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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/15/2019 12:03:49 AM   
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instead an Allied shock attack attack on the beach head!

Why, aargh?! Shooting themselves in the foot...
He knows well enough what is landing. Why batter yourself on the incoming mass of troops


Wargamr has been pretty consistent in instantly attacking beach heads, so I pare the invasion down to invite it.

55th Division is loading at Attu and will comprise a fair amount of the 2nd wave in a day or two or three.

Yamato will arrive close to Adak this next turn, beefing up my forces significantly. She will prowl once more, looking to react/attack surging Allied naval forces.


Agreed, surprising to see the shock attack … his troops weren't in condition to do so, and it really helped you.


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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/15/2019 12:06:35 AM   
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55th Division is loading at Attu and will comprise a fair amount of the 2nd wave in a day or two or three.


Ahh, ok, the 2 ID landing now makes sense … you have the 3rd ID in your hip pocket.



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RE: Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies) - 4/15/2019 1:03:48 PM   
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Take a small dot base in the Aleutians, and flush a damaged Nevada, promptly sinking her with torpedoes.

The 2nd wave unloads fully at Adak, and an attack will occur shortly.






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