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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 3/5/2019 6:58:51 AM   
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Kristian looking at the latest post of T16 I have a question: are/were the Soviet defences so strong on the Vielkiye Luki - Smolensk line? Since it's mid of August and Smolensk has not been reached I assume that the Soviets put much effort in stopping you in the AG Mitte frontline.
The other thing is: how is the southern flank of AG Süd faring? How do you use the Auxiliary there?

Many thanks and keep up the good work :)

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 3/5/2019 12:23:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, he put strong forces there (Søren usually does that, as it is one of the main rail lines to Moscow). Just as he always put very strong forces behind the Luga River to prevent an attack on Leningrad.

That is why I have chosen to attack further south between Smolensk and Roslavl with AGC. There are also strong forces at that sector, but it appears that the sector is not defended in depth as much.

Any line can be broken by the German Panzers and enough artillery, but it requires a bit of preparation and supply.

The Romanians are performing poorly when on their own, but together with German units they are doing ok, and are thus very much valued.

The Hungarians (being more proficient) are doing great on their own. It is just to sad that they will be replaced with less proficient units when they reform their army :)

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 3/7/2019 9:10:18 AM   
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In turn 18 the Germans used a Chit to renew their offensive. They tried to cross the Luga river at Mschinskaya and managed to get across.

AGC launched an attack between Smolensk and Roslavl with good success. It was hoped that turn 19 would be a turn to exploit the successes of turn 18, but with a failed prof check on round 1 nothing was achieved and the attacks are now bogged down.

With increasing losses on the German side and heavy resistance on the rest of the frontline, it looks more and more unlikely that a decisive result will be achieved in 1941 and the German commander is in despair :)

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 3/21/2019 8:20:21 PM   
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AGN are trying to take Luga because the rail line to the German bridgehead north of the Luga river runs through that city. In bad terrain and with strong Russian forces the advance is slow but steady.

AGC is continuing the attack towards Vyazma, and are trying to envelop Smolensk at the same time. It is hoped that the Russian forces in the Smolensk area will either be surrounded or will have to withdraw to avoid that fate.

AGS is still driving towards Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, and the Crimean




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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 3/21/2019 8:20:57 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 3/29/2019 9:17:20 PM   
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AGN has taken Luga and rail supply can now reach the bridgehead that has been established over the Luga River around Mshinskaya.
AGN has started a new offensive over the Shelon River around Simsk on the Western bank of the Ilmen Lake. The objective is Novgorod.

AGC is still attacking towards Vyazma and is now 60 km from the city. AGC has also begun to encircle the Russian around Smolensk. The Russians will have to abandon the salient or risk being encircled. In either case, Smolensk should soon be in German hands.

AGS is still advancing on Kharkov and is now about 145 km from the city. Further south the Germans and the Romanians are struggling to get to Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye. It is expected that the Russians have a strong defensive line behind that part of the Dnepr river.




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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 3/29/2019 9:18:06 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 4/7/2019 11:55:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I made a gif of the first 24 turns. It is clear to see the blitzkrieg quickly gets bogged down, in the Russian hordes :)




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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 4/7/2019 4:49:17 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 4/11/2019 8:36:10 PM   
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The Finns realize that the Svir River is more or less undefended, so whatever German units are available in Finland are rushed to the scene in order to move across the River and threaten Leningrad from the rear. It will never be a serious threat as there are so few Germans, but it is hoped that it will at least force the Russian player to move a couple of divisions there. The attack is planned to start in turn 25.

AGN are at the gates of Novgorod.

The Russians have decided to abandon the Smolensk salient, so AGC has taken Smolensk. Even though the Russians avoided a full encirclement they lost quite a few units in their withdrawal.
AGC is now 42 km from Vyazma.

AGS is still advancing towards Kharkov and is now 84 km from the city. Further south AGS are closing in on Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye.




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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 4/11/2019 8:36:47 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 4/30/2019 9:11:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have made a new gif, going from turn 1 to turn 32 - the start of the mud.

The Germans are at the gates of Vyazma, Kursk, and Kharkov, but the actual capture of the cities have not been accomplished. Maybe it will be possible after the mud when the road freezes (especially is Typhoon is launched). We will see.




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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 4/30/2019 11:56:27 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 5/1/2019 5:03:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lobster

Very nice animation.


Yes it is. That map is quite a treat for the eye as well.

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 5/2/2019 10:51:15 AM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 10/3/2019 8:59:16 PM   
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The GIF is of turns 42-74 covering the Russian Winter offensive.

The Russians choose to eliminate the Finns. After that, they tried to eliminate the German bridgehead over the Luga River to make Leningrad more secure. The German was indeed push back but they managed to hold on to Tolmachyovo where 6th Panzer Regiment withstood 10 attacks before the Russian gave up the direct assault and tried to surround the city. But all Russian gains to incircle the city was quickly retaken by the Germans in fierce counter-attacks, and the city held (this is not really visible in the GIF as all the picture are from the end of the German turn, where the hexes had been retaken)

The Russians also attacked strongly north of the Ilmen lake, retaking Novgorod and pushing the German all the way to Simsk. The Russians also attacked on most of the rest of the front, but without gaining much ground. The effort, however, has cost the german nearly as many casualties as they took during their own summer offensive, making the German commander wonder if a more mobile defense would have worked better.

At the end the offensive the Russians managed to make some ground by attacking the Romanians on the southern sector but was unable to reach the Dnepr River.




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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 10/4/2019 6:01:42 AM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 10/4/2019 6:49:45 AM   
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I will try to get exact numbers from both sides to compare later on.

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 10/14/2019 9:08:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		The numbers are in for the winter offensive (for key equipment)

Losses from turn 40 to 80:

Germany
Infantry (only 1 and 2 lmg squads): 18.176
Panzers (all types): 1.977
Fighters (including twin engine): 948
Bombers: 682

Russia:
Infantry (only 1 and 2 lmg squads): 38.523
Tanks: 4.270
Fighters: 4.285
Bombers: 1.577

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 10/15/2019 5:59:28 AM   
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With Finland gone, they can redeploy a lot of troops and not worry for Leningrad anymore.

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 10/23/2019 4:27:17 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 11/15/2019 9:18:41 PM   
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We are working on a new release in the next few weeks, but so far we keep this game rolling.

We are at the start of the summer. The GIF is from turn 90 to 109. Case Blau was launched on turn 110. I (as the Germans) launched Trappenjagd and Störfang in the North. The gains are were fairly small and hard to see in the GIF, so there are separate pictures of the progress below.

The aims of these offensives were 3 fold:

1) To secure the Luga-Tolmachyovo rail line
2) To make the Russians believe that Case Blau would be launched against Leningrad. In fact, it would be launched in the far South.
3) To make "proof of concept" using massed Panzers and artillery

All 3 objectives were completed.

But the Leningrad diversion proved to work too well in a way: The Russians did not anticipate that Case Blau would be launched in the South. He, therefore, had massed his best units down there to make a counteroffensive after Case Blau was launched to try to catch the Germans off guard as they were busy attacking somewhere else.

Whether that was a good or a bad thing for the Germans remains to be seen as Case Blau unfolds. It makes a breakthrough that more difficult, but on the other hand it gives the Germans a chance to maul the best Russian units during high Shock. Case Blau has only just been launched, so the jury is still out on that one.






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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 11/15/2019 9:19:36 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 11/15/2019 9:20:13 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 11/20/2019 7:19:30 AM   
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We are working on a new release in the next few weeks, but so far we keep this game rolling.


Do you mean there will be a new version of FITE2?

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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 11/20/2019 2:47:55 PM   
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RE: FITE2 Søren Russia, Kristian Germany - 11/24/2019 7:54:48 PM   
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Find the new version here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4388146&mpage=4&key=�



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