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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/20/2019 12:21:39 PM

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Jul/Aug 1941
End of Turn orders (Axis)

Neutrality Pact:
One marker of each please

Production Planning:
Germany

3 x Oil from Romania (all 3 saved in Berlin)
2 x Oil from USSR (both to production)
1 x Oil from Austria (to Italy as part of existing trade agreement).
1 x Oil from Germany (to Italy as part of existing trade agreement).
21 Build Points

Italy

2 x Oil from Germany (both saved in Turin)
8 Build Points.

Japan

12 Build Points

Stay At Sea: None
Return to Base:

Japan

AMPH China Sea to Fukuoka

Oil Reorganisation:
Japan

Only the Nell NAV and 2 x Battleships (don't care which ones) 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended) 19 Oil

Germany

All units except the U-boats, He-115c NAV, Hs-123, Bf-109C, Ju-88-A1 for 2.4 Oil (2 Oil expended) 20 Oil

Italy

All units except for the Z.1007 for 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended both from Rome) 10 Oil

Breakdown: None

Production:
Germany

1 x ARM HQ
2 x INF
1 x FTR (2)
1 x FTR (3)
1 x PIL

Italy

1 x LND (3)
1 x PIL
1 x INF

Japan

1 x INF
2 x PIL
1 x FTR (2)
2 x CARR AIR (0)
Chiyoda (2nd Cycle)
1 x Naval Repair - Asama

Factory Destruction:
Germany

MIL destroys a blue factory in Lille

Japan

GARR destroys a blue factory in Canton

Reinforcement:
Germany

Cologne: Bf-109
Bremen: Condor
Kiel: Garrison, SUB
Breslau: INF

Italy

Rome: AT
Genoa: Z.501
Venice: Z.506B

Japan

Fukuoka: TRS, INF
Fukuoka (on a carrier): A5M4 (Light Blue) to Hiryu
Sasebo: NAV, CONV

Trade Agreement:
Germany

No amendment to existing agreement with Italy - 2 Oil and 3 BP

If I have the ability to re-roll I will take it.
If I get the chance to move first I will.

Memo Item:
Oil situation: Germany 20 (8 x Berlin, 4 x Vienna, 3 x Lodz, 4 x Warsaw 1 + Prague), Italy 8 (4 x Milan, 2 x Rome and 4 x Turin) and Japan 19 (4 x Canton, 8 x Tokyo, 3 x Hiroshima and 4 x Nagoya)

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/20/2019 12:42:11 PM

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US puts a chit in the Ge/It pool.

Looking with increasing alarm at the situation in Europe and China, the US Congress are shocked when they get the latest assessment on how well the economy is prepared for war. A bill is immediately passed to gear up production. The news doesn't go well in Germany and Italy (7 rolled, chit moved to the Ge/It tension pool).

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/20/2019 3:16:58 PM

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Ordinarily I am quick to resign a game -- probably too quick. This game, however, deserves to be continued simply for the sheer horror of the Axis position in France. Resigning it would leave open the question: How bad can it get?

By the way, the US Gear-up this turn was expected. The US still has no chance for attempting to declare war in 1941, a small chance J/F '42, a decent chance M/A, and a pretty good chance M/J. The Axis could delay this a turn by not taking Paris. (Somehow, this last does not seem like a good strategy!)

Expect to see Fleet to Pearl this turn, and whatever the Americans can come up with against Ge/It. They have to move six points of tension, minus whatever they got over from Gear up. This could be two chits; on the other hand, it could go one, one, zero, one, .... I have seen both.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/20/2019 3:25:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

J/A 41 Allies 7

All pass for a 30% chance to end the turn.

On a 3 it does.

What would the Axis like to do?

warspite1

Cry....

This response had me rolling.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/20/2019 5:47:49 PM

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Stay at Sea/RTB

CW keeps various escorts out in the Atlantic and Med. Escorts RTB'ing go back to Liverpool, Gib' or Alex'. The CV/BB TF in the North Sea returns to Plymouth. TRANS in Biscay returns to Plymouth. Dutch TRANS in Red Sea returns to Djibouti.

US subs return to Midway. Bearne returns to San Diego.

Use Oil

I reorganise two of the faster BB's for Japan - Haruna and Kirishima. Since the Japanese still have 0.05 they could spend after reorganising the Nell, I reorganise the CA Takao. Hope this is okay? Alternative would be a CP or one of the other CA/CL's.

CW reorgs all for 3 points exactly.

France reorgs all bar 3 CA/CL's (1.45), spending the oil at St. Nazaire.

US reorgs all (0.55) spending an oil.

No breakdowns by the Allies.

CW and France scrap the fighters destroyed in the turn.

Production

Only 1 CVP-0 showed for Japan.

China 5
MTN

CW 23
TERR x3
ARM
LND-3
FTR-2
Pilot x2
CP x2

France 6
2 pilots retrained.
INF x2
FTR-2

US 20
CV 1st x2
TRANS 1st x2
INF HQ
CVP-1
Pilot
ARM Div

USSR 14
MTN
ARM
FTR-2
Pilot

Reinforcements

CW
TERR to Rhodesia
Sunderland to Hull
MAR to Liverpool.
ART Southampton
TERR Dacca
TERR Jaffa

France
MIL SW of Paris
INF Bordeaux.

US
Hornet to San Diego

USSR
GARR to Archangel and Vitebsk.
INF Div to Minsk
2 x FTR-2 to Kiev.
INF HQ to Minsk.
CAV to Yenan.

CW modifies its trade agreement with France back to 1 oil as the second couldn't be delivered from this turn.

France ends its trade to CW.

Initiative: Axis 9, Allies 3. With no re-rolls, the Axis get their wish to go first.

The French get very lucky with the weather.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 6:52:37 AM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 1 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Naval
Germany: Land
Italy: Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Japan

The Japanese move their excess convoys and make a couple more ship movements, the only notable one being the transport of an infantry to Bangkok.

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Germany

The three HQ in Belgium/France were moved closer to the front.

Air Rebases:
Germany

A couple of fighters and a bomber were re-positioned

Italy

A fighter was returned to Italy.

Japan

A fighter was sent to Japan and a second fighter in China re-positioned

HQ Reorganisation: None

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 7:54:54 PM

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S/O 41 Allies 2

No DoW or alignments.

Land: France, China.
Combined: The rest.

US sails 3 BB's to Hawaiian Is. 1-box.

CW TRANS loads INF at Plymouth and sails to Biscay 3-box. Queens sail to Red Sea-0-box and load Bombay MIL from Djibouti.

Communist CAV moves a hex east from Yenan.

USSR moves some forces in the north.

In France, CW moves an INF back to Bayonne, whilst Gort moves a hex NE.

France makes a couple of moves to put extra units with the HQ's.

CW debarks INF to Bayonne.

CW rebases Hampdens to Benghazi and Blenhiems to Khartoum.

Weather abates a bit.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 9:26:57 PM

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Sep/Oct 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Germany: Land
Italy: Land
Japan: Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Strategic Bombardment: None
Ground Strike:
Germany

4 Stukas attempt to ground strike two hexes south of Paris (2 Stukas on each hex). Aircraft the Germans can counter intercept with are as shown. What do the French want to do?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 9:42:52 PM

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Edit: Never mind.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 9:44:58 PM

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Southwest of Paris there is a 6 and 4-strength and Southeast there are 2 x 5-strength.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 9:47:36 PM

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The VG-33 flies to defend the hex SE of Paris. The two D520's defend the hex SW of Paris, thanks.

Edit: Land the survivors back from where they came.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 9:52:38 PM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Groundstrike (Air to Air Combat Subphase):
Germany

Southwest of Paris
Round 1

Allied: 11 (DC) - The Germans clear through the better Stuka
Axis: 11 (DC) - No French aircraft to clear through

Round 2

Allied: 10 (DC) - The remaining Stuka is cleared through
Axis: 12 (AC) - There is no French aircraft to clear through

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 10:02:03 PM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Groundstrike (Air to Air Combat Subphase):
Germany

Southeast of Paris
Round 1

Allied: 12 (AC) - The French clear through a Stuka (with slightly worse Air to Sea factor)
Axis: 20 (AXPX) - The French lose the fighter. The pilot is also killed

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 10:10:25 PM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Groundstrike (Air to Air Combat Subphase):
Germany

Damn I forgot to take a picture of the summary of the first battle - but there were 2 cleared bombers only.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 10:11:46 PM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Groundstrike (AA Subphase):

What do the French want to do with their AA units?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 10:16:55 PM

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The 37 mm will try 2 shots at each hex, thanks.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 10:28:17 PM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Groundstrike (AA Subphase):
SW of Paris
9
9
3
3
5
1

SE of Paris
3
10
1
2
6
4

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 10:35:08 PM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Groundstrike:
Germany

As presented in the order of the program, starting with the hex SW of Paris

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/21/2019 10:41:48 PM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Japan

The Japanese move some marines to the coast and some troops down the Kra Isthmus

Italy

The Italians continue their policy of doing what the Germans ask by way of guarding flanks etc

Germany

The Germans re-position around the Seine.

Land Combat: None

Air Rebase:
Japan

A NAV flies to Formosa

Italy

A fighter heads for northwest of Vichy

HQ Reorganisation:
Germany

von Leeb and Rommel reorganise two bombers and a fighter

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 12:03:44 AM

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I've managed to lose the original post, so apologies for anything missed.

S/O 41 Allies 7

No DoW or alignments.

All pass except CW.

CW sends TRANS from Plymouth and loads Gort to Biscay 3-box.

Hampdens rebase to Khartoum.

Turn continues on a 6 (less than 3 needed).

Weather turns fine.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 8:39:00 AM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Germany: Land
Italy: Combined
Japan: Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Italy

A convoy moves to the Italian Coast

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike:
Japan

A NAV targets Chinese forces southwest of Chihkiang

Germany

German stukas target the two hexes south of Paris, while a third targets the capital.

Italy

Italian bombers support the two German groundstrikes

The Chinese have a 3-strength fighter that can intercept and the Japanese have a 5-strength fighter.

The French have AA in Paris

What do the Allies wish to do?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 9:17:34 AM

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The Chinese decline.

French AA fires two shots for the capital and one shot for each of hexes south of Paris, thanks.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 9:22:15 AM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Groundstrike (AA subphase):
Paris
5
6
4
6
3
9

SW of Paris
9
2
7
9
4
4

SE of Paris
6
1
6
10
10
2

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 9:34:10 AM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Groundstrike (AA subphase):

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 9:43:51 AM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Groundstrike:
Germany and Italy

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 9:46:41 AM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Groundstrike:
China

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 4/22/2019 10:06:23 AM

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Sep/Oct 1941
Impulse: 9 (Axis)

Rail Movement:
Japan

Yamashita is railed to Singora

Land Movement:
Italy

The Italians are ordered by the Germans to assist around Lyons

Germany

German forces re-position south and southeast of Paris

Japan

The Japanese re-position forces in the south to concentrate on Chinese units around Chihkiang.

Paradrop:
Germany

The Germans bring in their Para against the forces southeast of Paris.

Land Combat:
Germany

The Germans announce an attack southeast of Paris

Japan

The Japanese announce an attack against the Chinese units southwest of Chihkiang.

The odds in France are 62:16 (3:1) (probably +5 (2 x disorganised and 3 x ARM). There may be something for the Para too.

Do the French want to bring in the Notional?