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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/2/2019 1:27:33 PM   
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A dispatch from Switzerland, analyzing the timing of the US entry into the war:

History:
M/A: Chit to Japan pool, DD's to CW, no chit, Burma Rd reopened, no chit, Reources to WA, chit moved (Ge)
M/J: Chit to Japan pool, Oil Embargo, chit moved (Ja).
J/A: Chit to Ge, Gear Up, chit moved (Ge)
S/O: Chit to Ge, Fleet to Pearl, chit moved (Ja), Lend Lease to WA, chit moved Ge

Thus we know that the US was desperate for tension M/A, and finally got enough M/J. The chit that moved from the Oil Embargo seems to have been a big one, since they moved a German chit for Gear up. Fleet to Pearl had to be picked, so that doesn't tell anyone anything, but the US still needed tension, and moved a German chit.

The Americans probably have enough tension in the pool for War Appropriations, but might not. I give them about a 75% chance of having enough tension. Everyone will find out this turn; if the US doesn't pick anything, they have enough tension.

Known Minimum Entry totals:
M/A: 24 Ja, 16 Ge Chit moved from German pool. Japanese tension was too low.
M/J: 31 Ja, Ge ? Chit moved from Japanese pool, both tensions >= 11.
J/A: 22 Ja, 22 Ge, Chit moved from German pool
S/O: 26 Ja, 27 Ge, Chits moved from both.

What this means for War Appropriations:

Those two chits have to be replaced, and a chit added to both pools, and probably one more. Maybe no more, maybe two or more. Since only one chit is being added N/D, War Appropriations is not being passed N/D. The US gets two chits J/F '42. They probably need three or, more likely, four, but could pick very well. It would have to be extremely well. If the Germans do not take Paris, I give the US about a 10% chance of picking War Appropriations J/F. The chance of picking War Appropriations goes up dramatically M/A; about 70% would be my guess.

What this means for declaring war?

The turn the US passes War Appropriations they will have 17 tension in both pools, and 34 entry. These are minimum figures; the actual totals will probably be a little higher. After the tension moves, the US will probably be on the 35/17 square against one country, or a 30% chance of war, and the 31/17 or 31/24 square for the other, a 20% or 0% chance. These are chances only a desperate US player would take. The US is not desperate, so the US will probably not declare war with these chances. If the Germans take Paris, that adds two chits to the Ge pool (probably; 1.8 chit move). This will move the US up to the 44/17 line, if they move the chit from War appropriations to the Japanese pool. This is a 50%, and is possible.

So the turn after the US passes War Appropriations, if the the Germans don't take Paris the US would have a low chance of declaring War the next turn, and a good one the turn thereafter. If the Germans do take Paris, the US will have a good chance any time after Vichy is declared. The US could attempt to declare war before the fall of Paris the turn after they pass War Appropriations, but their chances would not be good, and a failure would hurt, so they would probably not attempt to rescue the French. If the Germans don't take Paris in the turn after War Appropriations, the US will very likely try to declare war as soon as possible the next turn.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/2/2019 7:12:17 PM   
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Production:
Germany

1 x ARM HQ
1 x MIL
1 x GARR
1 x LND (2)
1 x LND (3)
2 x PIL


Germany doesn't have any LND-2's available to build. Should this be a FTR-2? That being so, is the LND-3 definitely a LND-3?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/2/2019 7:22:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

quote:

Production:
Germany

1 x ARM HQ
1 x MIL
1 x GARR
1 x LND (2)
1 x LND (3)
2 x PIL


Germany doesn't have any LND-2's available to build. Should this be a FTR-2? That being so, is the LND-3 definitely a LND-3?
warspite1

FFS - Sorry! Yes it is a FTR 2 thanks.


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/2/2019 7:23:34 PM   
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And still a LND-3?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/2/2019 7:24:11 PM   
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quote:

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And still a LND-3?
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Yes - this should = 21


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/2/2019 8:19:43 PM   
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Stay at Sea/RTB

CW keeps various escorts, the subs and the Beaufighter from the Italian Coast 3-box and Force H from the West Med 4-box at sea. Escorts return to Gib', Alex' and Liverpool. The BB TF in East Med returns to Gib. The 2 TRANS and CA's in East Coast return to Bristol. Dutch TRANS returns to Cape Town. Other Beaufighter in Italian Coast returns to Malta.

French ships and subs in the Med stay at sea.

US CV's and CA in Christmas Is. go to Pearl.

Oil Use

CW reorgs all (1.7) spending 2 oils in Port of Spain.

France reorgs all (0.2) for no oil.

US reorgs all (0.8) for 1 oil.

No break downs

Production

China 5
P-40E is requested and granted on Lend-lease.
FTR-2
Pilot
1 BP saved.

CW 21
CV Indomitable 2nd
Duke of York 2nd
TERR x3
INF HQ
CPx2
FTR 2
Pilot

France 4
INF Div
FTR-2

US 20
TRANS 2nd
North Carolina 2nd
INF x2
CVP-1 x2
Pilot x2

USSR 15
MECH
MOT
LND-4
Pilot

Eritrea is conquered by CW

I answer one of my earlier questions about what happens if I inadvertantly leave a hex over-stacked. The game tells me and I lose an oil.

Reinforcements

China
Scraps SB-2
INF Div to Kunming

CW
Pilots to Albacore - Southampton, Spitfire 1 - Coventry.
TERRs to Cape Town, Calcutta and Melbourne.
PARA to Coventry
AMPH to Plymouth

France
Pilot to FTR-2 Paris
INF to St. Nazaire.

US
INF HQ to New York
INF Div to San Diego.

USSR
Scraps SB-2
GARR Kiev
MTS to Vladivostok and Yenan

CW ends its trade with France.

Initiative: Axis 5, Allies 5. With Axis on +1, they win the initiative and move first.

Weather typical for the time of year.







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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 11:28:49 AM   
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Declarations of War and Alignments:
Germany

The Germans align Hungary. The US don't care (a 4 is thrown)

Germany: Combined
Italy: Combined
Japan: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Japan

Three carriers sail for the South China Sea
An Marine unit sails for Bangkok

Germany

Two subs sail for the Faroes Gap

Italy

A Sub moves to Cape St Vincent

Naval Search:
Italy

The throws in Cape St Vincent are:
Axis - 1
Allies - 5

The Axis choose the 0-box only and use all 6 points to increase damage to 1D + 1A. The gamble fails as the Sub is aborted (a 1 is thrown)

The sub aborts to La Spezia and the convoy aborts to Gibraltar




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 11:44:12 AM   
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Naval Search:
Germany

The Germans seek to initiate in the Faroes Gap. Do the CW want to bring aircraft in?




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 3:18:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

Some reassurance on the oil.

I don't know exactly what's going on with it but once I've sent saved oil resources showing as 'Idle' to a new city, the figures tally with yours. On the summary screen, the idle ones don't count towards the total but once relocated, do count.

You don't appear to have lost any (which is a relief to me as I'm not sure what the consequences are if I miss one and they aren't relocated) but the saved locations I put in might not match with your original ones. I do send them to cities in East Germany to put them as far as possible away from CW/US strategic bombing.
warspite1

I've just taken advantage of a lull in the action to check the oil. Germany appears to have 25 oil and not 24.....


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 3:31:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

Some reassurance on the oil.

I don't know exactly what's going on with it but once I've sent saved oil resources showing as 'Idle' to a new city, the figures tally with yours. On the summary screen, the idle ones don't count towards the total but once relocated, do count.

You don't appear to have lost any (which is a relief to me as I'm not sure what the consequences are if I miss one and they aren't relocated) but the saved locations I put in might not match with your original ones. I do send them to cities in East Germany to put them as far as possible away from CW/US strategic bombing.
warspite1

I've just taken advantage of a lull in the action to check the oil. Germany appears to have 25 oil and not 24.....


Why do I think of someone using a dipstick?

I would suggest leaving it, so that the next time an oil disappears, you don't have to edit the files to replace it.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 3:51:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

Some reassurance on the oil.

I don't know exactly what's going on with it but once I've sent saved oil resources showing as 'Idle' to a new city, the figures tally with yours. On the summary screen, the idle ones don't count towards the total but once relocated, do count.

You don't appear to have lost any (which is a relief to me as I'm not sure what the consequences are if I miss one and they aren't relocated) but the saved locations I put in might not match with your original ones. I do send them to cities in East Germany to put them as far as possible away from CW/US strategic bombing.
warspite1

I've just taken advantage of a lull in the action to check the oil. Germany appears to have 25 oil and not 24.....


Why do I think of someone using a dipstick?

I would suggest leaving it, so that the next time an oil disappears, you don't have to edit the files to replace it.
warspite1

Absolutely, so long as I have a note, I simply won't use oil I shouldn't have - but for the purposes of my thread in the main forum I am more interested to know how it could happen?? I've walked through the orders and everything was as it should be (albeit at the second time of trying); there appears no obvious reason why this oil malady keeps occurring.


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 4:25:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: AllenK

Some reassurance on the oil.

I don't know exactly what's going on with it but once I've sent saved oil resources showing as 'Idle' to a new city, the figures tally with yours. On the summary screen, the idle ones don't count towards the total but once relocated, do count.

You don't appear to have lost any (which is a relief to me as I'm not sure what the consequences are if I miss one and they aren't relocated) but the saved locations I put in might not match with your original ones. I do send them to cities in East Germany to put them as far as possible away from CW/US strategic bombing.
warspite1

I've just taken advantage of a lull in the action to check the oil. Germany appears to have 25 oil and not 24.....


Why do I think of someone using a dipstick?

I would suggest leaving it, so that the next time an oil disappears, you don't have to edit the files to replace it.
warspite1

Absolutely, so long as I have a note, I simply won't use oil I shouldn't have - but for the purposes of my thread in the main forum I am more interested to know how it could happen?? I've walked through the orders and everything was as it should be (albeit at the second time of trying); there appears no obvious reason why this oil malady keeps occurring.



I've looked through some of the auto-saves. At the production stage, though reinforcements it tallies at 24. At the resource lending stage is where the increase occurs. The increase appears to be an extra oil at Dresden. Dresden is the location for saving one of the oils received via trade.

If not related to this, I can live with it.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 4:29:25 PM   
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quote:

Naval Search:
Germany

The Germans seek to initiate in the Faroes Gap. Do the CW want to bring aircraft in?


Fairey's to the 0-box, please.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 4:34:38 PM   
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Naval Search:
Germany

The rolls are:
Axis - 9
Allies - 2

The Allies find with 2 cruisers. They have 7 Surprise points. What does the CW wish to do?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 4:39:00 PM   
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CW will engage the subs. Please could you post the screenshot showing what's involved and the unadjusted expected results.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 4:48:04 PM   
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Current situation

You can reduce your damage to no effect (2 pts) and spend (4 pts) to increase German damage to 1D and 1A




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 4:49:41 PM   
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That sounds like a good plan.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 4:56:20 PM   
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Naval Combat:
Germany

Both subs are aborted




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 5:16:45 PM   
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Strategic Bombardment: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement:
Japan

A GARR is sent to Manchuria

Germany

A MIL is sent to Sarajevo

Land Movement:
Italy

Italians are on the march in Yugoslavia... be afraid, be very afraid

Germany

German forces re-position in the east

Japan

Japanese forces complete their move down the Kra Isthmus

Land Combat: None

Air Rebase:
Germany

A Stuka moves closer to the front

HQ Reorganisation: None

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/3/2019 6:56:44 PM   
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J/F 42 Allies 4

No DoW or alignments.

Naval: CW
Land: China
Combined: The rest.

CW sends CP points out to replace losses and boost production. Dutch TRANS loads Spitfire from Cape Town and heads to Arabian Sea 0-box. Queens sail from Rangoon to Red Sea 0-box and load INF from Eritrea. TRANS from Bristol brings CAN TERR to Algiers. Various escorts head out into the Atlantic and Med'.

The French contribute a couple of cruisers to the West Med 4-box.

US sends sub from Midway to China Sea 1-box. TRANS sail from San Diego to Caribbean Sea 0-box.

French sub initiates combat in Italian Coast. Storms mean no air involvement.

Searches: Allies 6, Axis 5. No combat.

USSR rails an INF from Siberia to Ormsk.

The Communist CAV continues its journey towards Manchuria but becomes disorganised. USSR MTN moves from Vladivostok to the Manchurian border. In the south, an ARM Div and MECH redeploy from the Rumanian border back to Kiev.

Chiang moves slightly west and the Chinese make a couple of other slight adjustments.

Two French INF move east from Nantes.

USSR rebases a FTR and LND-4.

CW rebases some CVP's and a couple of fighters in the UK.

No reorgs.

Weather as expected for the time of year.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/4/2019 2:45:13 PM   
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Declarations of War and Alignments:
Germany

The Germans align Bulgaria. The official line from the White House, having thoughtfully weighed up the pros and cons and debated the matter at length is "Bulgaria? Wasn't he one of the Wombles?" (a 10 is thrown)

Germany: Land
Italy: Land
Japan: Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement:
Germany

3 Infantry corps move into Romania

Land Movement:
Italy

The Italians make a move against the Yugoslav partisan

Germany

The Germans make some detail movements in France

Japan

The Japanese realise somewhat belatedly that the whole China thing has been a total waste of time and start to pull back before they get swamped.

Land Combat: None

Air Rebase: None

HQ Reorgansiation: None

End of Turn: Turn Ends on Less than a 2 (a 3 is thrown)

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/4/2019 3:01:34 PM   
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The 'Isolationist' movement is strong in this alternate reality.

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The 'Isolationist' movement is strong in this alternate reality.
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Mmmm.... the one area of the game I probably have had the rub of the green on is the US Entry. That, combined with the Germans poor performance, makes me wonder how the US can be so close to entering. May be an early 1941 is not unusual in this game and that this is late for the US?


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/4/2019 4:31:15 PM   
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J/F 42 Allies 10.

No DoW or alignments

Land: CW, China
Combined: The rest.

TH French shift a couple of CP's from Casablanca to Mogador.

US sends a sub from San Diego to Hawaiian Is 0-box. TRANS take MAR to Pago Pago. AMPH takes INF to Hawaiian Is 1-box.

French sub initiates combat in Italian Coast. Searches: Allies 10, Axis 6. No combat.

USSR moves more units back to the behind the Dvina.

The Nationalists respond cautiously to the Japanese withdrawal and push some units forwards a bit.

Kenyan TERR continues NE along the Somaliland coast. MECH reaches the outskirts of Tripoli. Some minor adjustments to CW forces in the UK.

No combat.

No rebases or reorgs.

Turn ends on a 1 (less than 5 needed).


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/4/2019 4:34:08 PM   
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No partisans.

Where would the Axis like to place their markers?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/4/2019 5:27:33 PM   
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One marker to defence and one to offence please

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USSR puts its marker to defence.

US puts two chits in the Ge/It pool. No options are taken.


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/4/2019 5:49:16 PM   
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End of Turn orders (Axis)


Neutrality Pact:
One markers to each

Production Planning:
Germany

Starting oil situation: Germany 25 (8 x Berlin, 4 x Vienna, 3 x Lodz, 4 x Warsaw 3 x Prague, 3 x Dresden)

3 x Oil from Romania (All three saved in Breslau)
2 x Oil from USSR (both to production)
1 x Oil from Austria (Saved in Dresden).
1 x Oil from Germany (to Italy as part of existing trade agreement).
26 Build Points

So the Germans should end up with 29 (8 x Berlin, 4 x Vienna, 3 x Lodz, 4 x Warsaw 3 x Prague, 4 x Dresden, 3 x Breslau) less whatever will be used for reorganisation

Italy

Starting Oil Situation: Italy 13 (4 x Milan, 4 x Rome, 1 x Genoa, 4 x Turin)

1 x Oil from Germany (saved in Genoa) - no need to amend as this should already be showing save to Genoa
11 Build Points.

So the Italians should end up with 14 (4 x Milan, 4 x Rome, 2 x Genoa, 4 x Turin) less whatever will be used for reorganisation

Japan

15 Build Points

Stay At Sea: None (except convoys)
Return to Base:
Japan

CV's in South China Sea to Bangkok

Oil Reorganisation:
Japan

AMPH and TRS, Nell and 1 conv for 0.45? Oil (0 Oil expended) 16 Oil

Germany

All except the second Hs-123 for 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended) 29 Oil

Italy

2 x Sparviero for 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended both from Rome) 14 Oil

Breakdown: None

Production:
Germany

1 x INF HQ
1 x INF
1 x GARR
1 x LND (2)
1 x FTR (2)
1 x LND (3)
3 x PIL
3 x Saved Build Points (all in Berlin)

Italy

1 x NAV (3)
1 x PIL
1 x INF
3 x Saved Build Points (all in Milan)

Japan

2 x PIL
1 x FTR (2)
1 x CARRIER AIR (1)
1 x INF
1 x MECH

Factory Destruction:
Japan

A Blue factory in Changsha is destroyed

Reinforcement:
Germany

East of Budapest: MOT (Hun)
Konigsberg: Guderian HQ, MECH
Breslau: Fw-190, MOT DIV
Munich: Condor
Kiel: GARR

Italy
Scrap Ca.313

Genoa: Fighter
Rome: Badoglio HQ
Naples: INF

Japan

Nagoya: FTR
Fukuoka: Junyo, MTN, INF DIV

Trade Agreement:
Germany

No amendment to existing agreement with Italy - 1 Oil and 3 BP


If I have the ability to re-roll I will take it.
If I get the chance to move first I will.






Memo Item:
Oil situation: Germany 29 (8 x Berlin, 4 x Vienna, 3 x Lodz, 4 x Warsaw 3 x Prague, 4 x Dresden, 3 x Breslau)
Italy 14 (4 x Milan, 4 x Rome 2 x Genoa and 4 x Turin)
Japan 16 (1 x Canton, 8 x Tokyo, 3 x Hiroshima and 4 x Nagoya)


< Message edited by warspite1 -- 5/4/2019 6:50:08 PM >


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/4/2019 7:57:28 PM   
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Mmmm.... the one area of the game I probably have had the rub of the green on is the US Entry. That, combined with the Germans poor performance, makes me wonder how the US can be so close to entering. May be an early 1941 is not unusual in this game and that this is late for the US?


I have not been paying attention to how well the Americans have been doing on getting chits for what entry actions the Axis has managed to do. The Axis has not taken Paris or invaded the USSR, which means that two 1940 chits and one 1941 chit that normally are in the pool are not there.

ADG has stated that US entry is designed to have War Appropriations averaging M/A '42 in a normal game. This is not a normal game. If the other US entry action rolls were average, I would expect this to be delayed all the way to ... M/J '42. Yes, only a one turn delay. The US is pulling two chits a turn in '42, and the '42 chits average higher than the earlier year chits. Much higher than the '40 chits; one '42 chit is worth just about two '40 chits.

If my conclusions about US entry are correct, War Appropriations is most likely to be passed M/A '42, with it more likely to be a turn later than a turn earlier. So the US seems to have pulled somewhat above average, but not outrageously so. In particular, they look like they pulled a few high chits late in '41. (To recap, my estimates are about 10% J/F '42, about 70% M/J 42, and about 15% M/J, with the odds later than that being low, but not zero.)

(This post was written while the other posts were being done. I now give the US a 0% chance of passing War Appropriations J/F. )

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 5/5/2019 2:21:00 PM   
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Japan

Nagoya: FTR
Fukuoka: Junyo, MTN, INF DIV


Which of the three fighters does Japan assign the pilot to?




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