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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 3:50:14 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 4:39:40 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 5:09:40 PM   
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CW captures some vacant ground in Sicily. Troops move from Malaya towards and into Siam.

Nationalists do a couple of minor moves, while the Communists continue eastwards.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 5:26:44 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 5:47:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		USSR rebases 3 fighters in the south.

CW rebases Boomerang from Aus to Port Moseby and Blenheim from Port Blair to Batavia.

US rebases Hellcats from Saipan to SW of Manilla, Mustang from Truk to Saipan and P-40 from Kwajalein to Truk.

No HQ reorg. TRANS in Italian coast reorgs the Canadian ARM on Sicily.

Turn ends on a 1 (less than 2).

No partisans.

How do the Germans wish to deploy their markers? Both to defence and move one from offence to defence?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 5:51:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Defence - and could you also move a marker from offence to defence please? Thank-you.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 6:00:00 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 6:07:24 PM   
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Impulse: End of Turn Malarchy


Neutrality Pact:
2 x Defensive Chits plus one moved from Offensive to Defensive please.


Production Planning:

Germany

Oil situation:

2 x Oil from Romania (to production)
1 x Oil from Romania (save in Dusseldorf)
2 x Oil from USSR (both to production)
1 x Oil from Kirkuk (save in Dusseldorf)
1 x Oil from Austria (Saved in Lodz)
1 x Oil from Germany (to Italy as part of existing trade agreement).
NOTE: THE OIL IN ESSEN NEEDS TO BE SAVED IN DUSSELDORF

45 Oil last turn so should be 48 (less what is used to reorganise)
48 Build Points (incl. 8 saved)

Italy

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Germany (saved in Rome)
15 Build Points (incl. 1 saved) - shows 13 at production

18 Oil last turn so should be 19 (less what is used to reorganise)

Japan

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Borneo (saved in Tarakan)
14 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

8 Oil last turn so should be 9 (less what is used to reorganise)

Vichy

6 Build Points (incl. 1 saved)

5 x Oil last turn so should be 5 (less what is used to reorganise)


Stay At Sea:
Japan

Convoys Only

Germany

Convoys Only


Return to Base:
Germany

Ju-88c to Gdynia
SUBs to Bordeaux

Japan

China Sea:
All units to Fukuoka

South China Sea:
0-box: Ki-27 to Tarakan
2-box: Fleet to Canton
3-box: A6-M2 to Haiphong

Italy

N/a

Vichy

N/a


Oil Reorganisation:
Japan

Please use Tarakan oil first.

Bangkok: all units except for Dhonburi and Sri Ayuthia
Hanoi: A6M2
Canton: Ryujo + Carrier Place, Yamashiro, Nagato, Fuso, Suzuya, Takao, Nachi, Isuzu, Kinu
Hong Kong: A6M2, B5N2, Betty
Fukuoka: Zuikaku, Akagi, Soryu, Yamato, Ashigara, Asama, Chokai, Maya, Chikuma, Abukama, Kitakami, TRS (5-3)
Tarakan: Ki-27

For 2.45 Oil (2 Oil expended)

Germany

Reorganise: all except the two He-111 LND for 0.4 Oil (0 Oil expended)

Italy

All units 0.0 Oil (0 Oil expended)

Vichy

Only Bretagne, Lorraine, Duquesne, Foch, Dupleix, SUB for 0.45 (0 Oil expended)


Breakdown: None


Production:
Germany

Scrap the He-115C

1 x INF
1 x MECH
1 x ARM
1 x AT (5)
1 x NAV
1 x FTR (3)
1 x LND (3)
2 x FTR (2)
3 x PIL
10 x Saved Build Points (8 in Berlin and 2 in Dresden)

Italy

1 x FTR (2)
2 x PIL
1 x GARR
1 x NAV (3)
1 x MIL

Japan

Scrap the rubbish Kate and Val (both Land based NAV)

1 x Hiryu Repair
2 x PIL
2 x CARRIER AIR (1 and 2)
1 x NAV
1 x TERR
1 x Convoy

Vichy

2 x TERR
Repair Courbet


Reinforcement:
Germany

Assign 3 x FTR and best Ju-88
Frankfurt: MECH, ARM
Dusseldorf: 8-1 GARR
Breslau: 6-Bf-109
Konigsberg: 6-Bf-109
Aachen - 5-Bf-109
Munich - Ju-88

If poss - remove Hs-123 in Magdeburg

Italy

Assign 2 best fighters

Florence: Macchi
Rome: INF
Naples: Ariete


Japan

Assign: A6M2N, Ki-43L, B5N2 (Green), B5N2 (Orange), B5N1 (Lt Blue)

Osaka: A6M2N
Fukuoka: B5N1 (aboard carrier), B5N2 (Green), MAR DIV, CONV
Hiroshima: Ki-43L, B5N2 (Orange)
Yokohama: GARR
Osaka: INF


Vichy

Depends on the units but unless obvious it should be placed elsewhere, then in the capital. If an Algerian then place in Oran
Marseilles: Paris

Trade Agreement:
Germany

No amendment to the agreement with Italy - 2 resources (1 Oil) and 3 BP


If I have the ability to re-roll I will take it.
If I get the chance to move first I will.


MEMO ITEM:

Germany - Program continues to override where I've placed the oil
Oil (4 x Warsaw, 4 x Lodz, 3 x Breslau, 4 x Dresden, 4 x Leipzig, 8 x Berlin, 4 x Prague, 3 x Nuremburg, 4 x Vienna, 3 x Bratislava, 3 x Dusseldorf, 1 x Essen, 1 x Hanover, 2 x Brno) = 48
Build Points (8 x Berlin, 2 x Dresden)

Italy
Oil (4 x Turin, 4 x Milan, 4 x Genoa, 7 x Rome) = 19
Build Points (0)

Japan
Oil (4 x Tokyo, 2 x Nagoya, 1 x Tarakan) = 7 (Note: I tried to use Tarakan oil to reorganise but it hasn't let me)
Build Points (0)

Vichy
Oil (3 x Vichy, 2 x Lyons) = 5
Build Points (1 in Vichy)


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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 6:08:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Was the pilot killed in the air battle can you recall?


It looks like the US pilot was killed as the pilot reserves are the same at the end of the turn as they were at the start.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/15/2020 6:10:03 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 2:09:27 PM   
AllenK


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Stay at Sea/RTB

CW - Some escorts stay out in the Atlantic. 2 CA and a TRANS drop to the 1-box in Italian Coast. Warshis in the West Med and Italian Coast return to Malta. TRANS x2 to Tripoli. Spitfire Italian coast to Malta. Beaufighter West Med to Cagliari. Buffalo West Med to NW of Tripoli. Hurricane West Med to Olbia. Hampden West Med to Cagliari.

US - Escorts in Atlantic stay out, as does the Wasp plus 3 CA in Biscay. In the Pacific, various escorts stay out. Ships in South China Sea return to Manilla. Wasp plus BB and 2 CA's returns to Manilla. TRANS with GARR in Coral Sea to Rabaul. Ike and TRANS from East Coast to Cardiff.A couple of CL's return to Pearl, another to Truk. Sub from Pacific gets to Truk.

USSR - Subs back to Vladivostok.

Oil use

USSR reorgs the subs at no oil cost.

CW reorgs all for 3 oil (3.45).

US reorgs all for 4 oil (3.95).

No breakdowns

CW scraps Hurricane. US scraps a couple of CVP's the Bearn and the Boise.



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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 2:10:42 PM   
AllenK


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Status: offline 		Italy still has 2 BP's left. The list comes to 13. How would you like to spend them?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 2:13:45 PM   
warspite1


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Status: offline 		This is truly bizarre - 15? 13? 15? WTH?

Anyways, I can't be doing with re-checking all that again so would you mind just saving the 2 BP and placing in Milan please? Thank-you.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 3:17:33 PM   
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China 6
China requests loan of P-40 from US, which is granted. China builds it plus pilot and MTN Div.

CW scraps some obsolete LND 4's and 3's plus a NAV 3. 33 BP's
LND-4
FTR-3 x2
FTR-2
Pilot x4
Repair CVL
BB Anson 2nd
INF HQ
ARM MAR.

US 63
O-chit
TRANS 2nd
CVP-1
AMPH x2
TRANS
FTR-2 x2
LND-4
LND-3
Pilot x4
MAR
INF HQ
MECH
Sub repair

USSR 31 (saved all bar one oil).
MECH
MOT x2
MIL
LND-3
FTR-2
Pilot x2
CAV
ART-5

Reinforcements

China
MOT to Nanning

CW
INF and ART to Birmingham
Mosquito London
Beaufighter Southampton
CP Singapore
MECH and MOT to Dacca

US
CV Enterprise to San Diego
B-24 to Boston
Sub x2 San Diego.
PARA and ART to Norfolk
ARM and INF to Philadelphia.

USSR
IL-4 to Odessa
MOT and MECH Div to Kiev
ENG to Dnepropetrovsk
INF x2 to Minsk.

Lending
CW modifies the agreement with China to send 2 resources (1 oil).

Initiative
Axis 5, Allies 3. Allies decline to re-roll so Axis going first.

Weather

Fine everywhere




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 3:31:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Question: Is there any way of repairing the Oilfield at Balikpapan?

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 3:35:14 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 3:40:11 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 4:45:42 PM   
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Impulse: 1 (Axis)

Japan: Combined
Germany: Land
Italy: Land

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Port Attack: None
Naval Air:
Japan

A FTR and a NAV take up position in the 4-boxes of each of the China Sea and the South China Sea.

Naval Movement:
Japan

Two carrier task forces take up position in the 4-box of each of the China Sea and South China Sea

Strategic Bombardment: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Japan

Japan continue retreat moves in Siam, China and French Indo-China

Germany

The Germans re-arrange their lines in the east and add additional forces to the French garrison

Italy

The Italians move units to assist the defence of Sicily

Land Combat: None

Rebase:
Germany

3 FTRs and an ATR move westward from East Prussia, so completing the clear out.

Reorganisation: None

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 7:52:44 PM   
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No DoW or alignments.

Land: USSR, China.
Naval: CW, US.

CW flies Beaufighter to Italian Coast 3-box and Buffalo to West Med 3-box.

US flies Hellcat to South China Sea 4-box, PBY to 4-box of Bismark Sea and Hudon to 4-box of Solomans.

Naval moves

CW - CP from Gib to Italian Coast. The 2 CA's from the 1-box drop to the 0-box. The TRANS returns to Gib. 4 CV, 4 BB and 3 CA from Malta sail to Italian Coast 3-box. TRANS at Tripoli bring MECH and AA to Syracuse. Queens from East Africa bring INF to Tripoli. AMPH from East Africa sails to Red Sea 0-box and loads supply unit. Sub from Bombay to Bengal 2-box. CP to Persian Gulf. Various escorts sent out. TRANS at Calcutta loads Mountbatten and sails to Bengal 1-box. 2 CL's from Brisbane join as escort.

US - 3 TRANS from Cardiff sail to East Coast 0-box and load INF, PARA and ARM. CA from Kwajalein loads INF Div and sails to Solomons 4-box. CA from Truk embarks INF Div from Saipan and sails to Marianas 4-box. 2 CV and 7 CA from Manilla to South China Sea 4-box. I decline the intercept as it's pretty obvious they are staying put. 2 Subs from West Coast start the journey westwards to the front. AMPH at ~Belfast loads Clarke and sails to Edinburgh. AMPH at Cardiff loads IN?F and sails to Faeroes 2-box. 2 BB and 2 CA sail from Belfast to provide escort.

Only South China Sea available for naval combat. The US declines. How about the Japanese?




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 8:10:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		May I complement you sir on your rather horny Hellcat.

No, the Japanese don't wish to initiate thank-you

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 8:22:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

May I complement you sir on your rather horny Hellcat.


You are welcome, sir.

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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 8:40:06 PM   
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USSR rails a couple of MIL into Chisinau.

The Soviets continue their advance into Manchuria.






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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 8:51:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Communists push forwards and the CAV overruns the Ki-51 at Tientsin. Where would the Japanese like to rebase it?




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 8:57:17 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 9:13:39 PM   
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Soviet forces in USSR advance into the border territory.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 9:20:07 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 9:24:55 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/22/2020 10:09:30 PM   
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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/24/2020 7:50:51 PM   
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The opening of the attack runs into difficulties as units fail to meet their initial objectives on time (fractional failed) but weight of numbers prevail.




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RE: Folly a deux: AllenK vs Warspite1 AAR - 3/24/2020 8:00:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets rebase 3 FTR's forwards to provide some air cover.

CW rebases a CVP from Ark Royal in Malta to Glorious in Italian coast.

No reorgs.

Weather stays mostly fine.




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