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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 8:28:40 PM   
Mayhemizer_slith


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 8:41:10 PM   
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Impulse: 7 (Axis)

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Italy

The Italians move around a bit on the French border and in Ethiopia

Germany

The Germans move forces around in Belgium/Germany/Holland and also Denmark

Japan

The Japanese decide to withdraw in the north and consolidate in the south

Debark:
Germany

Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen? That's annoying. I don't get the option to debark my MIL.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 8:57:28 PM   
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Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen?


You have 2 corps there already. Did you move one of them away first?

EDIT: I go test.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 9:03:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me.

Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW.

Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug?




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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 9:04:26 PM   
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Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen?


You have 2 corps there already. Did you move one of them away first?

EDIT: I go test.
warspite1

Yes - I moved a corps to the southwest. I have also tried not moving the corps and debarking directly to the southwest. The MIL is face up on an organised TRS so I don't understand what I'm missing.


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 9:05:48 PM   
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Why won't the program allow my infantry to land in Copenhagen?


You have 2 corps there already. Did you move one of them away first?

EDIT: I go test.
warspite1

Yes - I moved a corps to the southwest. I have also tried not moving the corps and debarking to the southwest. The MIL is face up on an organised TRS so I don't understand what I'm missing.



See above post. I don't get it either. I can edit file and move MIL to Denmark if you send me the file at current phase (next after debark).

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 9:15:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those have got to be the least fortunate aggregate of ground strike rolls I have ever seen - are you sure you aren't cursed, warspite? Your land attacks during the crucial summer of 1940 vs AllenK, and now these ground strikes. Whew!

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 9:15:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've sent the file over at the air transport phase. I will call it a night there.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 9:19:13 PM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/12/2019 9:24:45 PM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 4:42:04 AM   
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Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me.

Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW.

Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug?
I assume you're playing with the latest version? If so, then a suggestion if I might. Save the game to a "temp" filename, revert version back to 2.7.0, try with that version and see what happens.


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 4:59:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me.

Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW.

Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug?
I assume you're playing with the latest version? If so, then a suggestion if I might. Save the game to a "temp" filename, revert version back to 2.7.0, try with that version and see what happens.


Thanks, I will try that in few hours.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 8:13:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rkr1958


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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

Well, that was weird. Same thing happened to me.

Germany has chosen land action. Germany moved one MIL from Copenhagen to SW.

Program skipped debark phase, even if Germany has MIL on TRS. Is there a reason or is this a bug?
I assume you're playing with the latest version? If so, then a suggestion if I might. Save the game to a "temp" filename, revert version back to 2.7.0, try with that version and see what happens.


Thanks, I will try that in few hours.


We are playing with version 2.9.5
I reverted game down to 2.7.1 which we are using in our other games.

Same thing happened.

So I post this to Tech Forum. We move on, I edited that MIL to Copenhagen. If anyone want to test this with other version, save file is going to Tech Forum.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 9:17:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Did you send the file back - I don't seem to have received anything?

Edit: Okay thanks. If you attack either hex next impulse we will manually amend the results. The MOT should be southwest of Copenhagen and the MIL in the capital. If, not, and they are not ground struck and if I am in supply I will move them on my next land impulse.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 9:21:42 AM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 9:36:15 AM   
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Impulse: 7 (Axis)

Land Combat: None

Air Rebase: None

HQ Reorganisation:
Germany

von Leeb and von Bock reorganise two Stukas

Italy

Balbo reorganises the BA.65


End of Turn: Turn ends on less than a 2 (a 1 is thrown)


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 11:16:54 AM   
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End of Turn orders (Axis)

Neutrality Pact:
The Germans will two defensive markers please

Production Planning:
Germany

2 x Oil from Romania (both saved in Lodz)
2 x Oil from USSR (1 to production and 1 saved in Berlin)
1 x Oil from Austria (to Italy as part of the Trade Agreement)
1 x Oil from Germany (to production)

14 Build Points

Italy

1 x Oil from Romania (to production)
1 x Oil from Germany (saved in Milan)

5 Build Points

Japan

2 x Oil from NEI (saved in Yokohama)
2 x Oil from USA (to production)

13 Build Points

Stay At Sea: Convoys stay at sea
Germany

Scharnhorst, Leipzig and Nurnberg move to 3-box

Return to Base:
Germany

All other German ships on the Baltic return to Stettin
Sub to Kiel

Italy

All German subs and NAV to La Spezia

Oil Reorganisation:
Japan

All units for 0.2 oil (0 oil expended)

Germany

All units except 2 x SUB and Koln for 1.45 oil (1 oil expended)

Italy

Reorganise Balbo and Pola only for 0.45 oil (0 Oil expended)

Breakdown: None

Production:
Germany
Scrap 3-3 SUB, Do-17M

1 x MIL
1 x ART (4)
1 x FTR (2)
1 x LND (2)
2 x PIL

Italy
Scrap CR.32bis, SM.81 and Ca.133

1 x Repair Sub
1 x NAV (2)
1 x PIL

Japan
Scrap D2A1 Val (Light Blue)

Naval Repair Takao
1 x TRS (1st Cycle)
1 x SUB (1st Cycle)
1 x Musashi (1st Cycle)
1 x INF
1 x MIL
1 x PIL
1 x Carrier Air (0)

Reinforcement:
Germany

Stettin: Emden, CONV
Aachen: Bf-109
Dusseldorf: Stuka

Italy

La Spezia: Littorio, SUB

Japan

Fukuoka: CONV, Hiei, Kashima, MECH

Trade Agreement:
Germany

3 Resources to Italy - (1 oil) - No Change to this agreement


Memo Item:
Oil situation: Germany 9 (7 x Berlin, 2 x Lodz), Italy 4 (4 x Milan, 1 x Turin) and Japan 11 (6 x Tokyo, 3 x Yokohama, 1 x Kyoto and 1 x Nagoya)


If I can, and if required, Re-Roll
I will go first if I get the opportunity to choose


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 1:45:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mayhemizer is offline so in order that I can do my production planning I will do the throws for the partisans and post them here for Mayhemizer to input.

There was a scare (for the Axis) in China, but ultimately only one partisan - in French Indo-China. The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one.




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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 6:25:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right there will be a slight delay as we try and fix a bug in the game. Hopefully this should not be too bad as most (all?) key events are recorded. It's only individual unit movement we don't record but we'll just have to recreate to the best of our ability.

I think going forward we should try every avenue before editing games. Even if it means a problem with convoys, we should explore options other than editing. I notice this action potentially caused issues in the 4-player game and I think there was an edit in this game caused by convoy frustrations.

Let's see what happens then, and if this fixes the TRS / Debark problem.

Right - the MIL is aboard the transport. Let's see what happens as the impulse and the turn progress.




Okay, that's the Axis impulse done. I will pass over to Mayhemizer to do his impulse. Then it will be back to the Axis for their second and last impulse of the turn. Personally I think this was all a nefarious plan of his to make me re-live those ground strikes again

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 7:38:58 PM   
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Personally I think this was all a nefarious plan of his to make me re-live those ground strikes again


Allies are playing mind games...

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/13/2019 9:26:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay so all 3 impulses played and the problem went away. The unit must have come 'unattached' from the TRS at some unknown point.

Game now back with Mayhemizer for the end of turn malarchy.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/14/2019 6:56:54 PM   
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The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one.


I entered all the numbers on your post and got 0 strength partisan. I can kill it automatically on mountains, would like to place it on jungle so that it has defense value 1?

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/14/2019 7:05:08 PM   
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The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one.


I entered all the numbers on your post and got 0 strength partisan. I can kill it automatically on mountains, would like to place it on jungle so that it has defense value 1?
warspite1

Can you place it in Hue please?


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/14/2019 7:07:00 PM   
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The partisan is placed to the east of the existing one.


I entered all the numbers on your post and got 0 strength partisan. I can kill it automatically on mountains, would like to place it on jungle so that it has defense value 1?
warspite1

Can you place it in Hue please?


Sure

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/14/2019 8:03:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		USSR marker to offense.

US marker to Ge/It pool.

US needs tension to advance in their entry options. Occupying Greenland and Iceland gives nice effect and biggest marker moves to tension...


Production

China 5
CW 13 (9 oils saved)
France 10 (2 oils saved)
US 11
USSR 14

This is the best game ever, but CW production is the most painful thing ever...


Stay at Sea and RTB
Almost all CW ships return to base, mostly escorts are in low boxes.
French sub stays on Italian Coast, mostly others return to base. TRS with MIL to Brest.


Oil use
CW all for 2,25 oil
France all for 1,1 oil
US one CP for free



Now I'm at prodcution and Italy has only 4 BPs. Somehow one oil that was going to production is now saved to Milan. And French production is 9. I think I quit from tonight and continue tomorrow. I consider editing the file.

Is there a way to set resource going certain route to certain factory, so that program is not allowed to change it ever? And if order is impossible, it's idle. I don't know how to do it, but this would be great.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/15/2019 6:50:10 AM   
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This is the best game ever, but CW production is the most painful thing ever...

Now I'm at prodcution and Italy has only 4 BPs. Somehow one oil that was going to production is now saved to Milan. And French production is 9. I think I quit from tonight and continue tomorrow. I consider editing the file.

warspite1

Yes I see this all the time - well intermittently, but enough to cause a problem. I save oil in the initial planning stage - only to find it is earmarked for production in the final stage and - more commonly - I put oil to production, which is then saved when I get to Final stage. This is irritating in the extreme because one can't change it in the final stage if its lent.


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/17/2019 7:46:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I went back to oil use and fixed production after Italian and CW oil use. Only to find Germany with new problem. So I went back to oil use and fixed all productions after each major power's oil use.

After that Germany, Italy and France had one BP missing. Germany and Italy had one oil too much saved. So I went back to oil use and expended one oil from both Axis countries and fixed production for those 3 major powers.


Production

China 5
MOT
CAV div

CW 13
2x Pilot
FTR3
INF
AMPH (1st)

France 10
GAR
FTR2
INF HQ
Save 1 BP

US 11
TRS (1st)
CA (1st)
CP
Save 7 BPs

USSR 14
MTN div
GAR
CAV
2x INF
Pilot


After all this Italy got over stacked oil, I guess I failed at some point to check that one oil goes to Turin. Would it be OK that I edit one oil to Italy next turn end to avoid redoing this all once again? I need one oil to Turin, then I edit it into two.


Reinforcements

China
CAV div to Hengyang

CW
NAV2 to Belfast.
CV,CA,CL and 2x CP to Plymouth
CP Bombay

France
MECH to Lille
INF to Paris

US
GAR and sub ti San Diego

USSR
CA to Vladivostok
2x INF to east (Vladivostok and B-town)
2x INF to Minsk
Ski div to Cernauti

ComChi INF to Taiyuan


Lending resources
CW to France is modified to 2 res (1 oil)
US sends one res to China


Initiative: Axis 6, Allied 5. Axis win and they go first.

Axis get the perfect weather.




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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/17/2019 10:51:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I don't like the idea of editing but understand if you don't want to do this all again. Okay let's just keep our fingers crossed.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/19/2019 9:56:35 AM   
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Impulse: 1 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy : Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike:
Italy

A Ba.65 flies to the Alps.

Germany

I bring in four Stukas against the three hexes in Belgium (there are two southeast of Brussels) held by the French. No aircraft fly as escort.

Japan

The Japanese try an ART groundstrike in the mountains east of Changsha


The aircraft available on the Italian front can be seen. In the north there is a 6-strength fighter below the 4-strength.

What do the French want to do?



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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/19/2019 11:00:58 AM   
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