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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 7:15:28 AM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 7:19:41 AM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 7:44:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rail move
CW GAR from Lille to Bayonne.
US ART from West Coast to East Coast.
USSR INF from Persia to Lvov.


Land move
ComChi retreat.
NatChi move 2 units few hexes.
CW units in France retreat
French units retreat mostly behind river Seine. Maginot line is abandon.


Rebase
French planes behind front line.
CW FTR2 to Denmark, FTR3 to Portsmouth so that it covers CW units in France.


HQ reorg
CW uses Gort to reorg ART in Denmark.


Situation in Europe after Allied impulse.




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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 7:46:16 AM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 1:28:26 PM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 2:27:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris?

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 2:41:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wanted to test how you can defend France with this style, I have 2 forts in Paris. At some point I planned to retreat behind river line.

If I would have stayed where I was, Stukas would have hit half of French units and this I would not have been able to test this. Also I lost Belgian units and I needed pull CW units back as most of my units are in Denmark.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 2:43:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris?
warspite1

Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack.

It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans.


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 3:29:52 PM   
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Impulse: 2 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Combined
Germany: Combined
Italy: Combined

Port Attack: None
Naval Air:
Germany

A fighter flies to the Baltic 0-box

Naval Movement:
Japan

The Japanese put two TRS to sea (China Sea) to pick up an INF and a MIL

Germany

Bismarck, Deutschland and Graf Spee put to sea with a TRS and an AMPH loaded with a MIL and an ART and move to the 3-box.

Italy

Three SUBS head for Cape St Vincent (2) - 1 in the 3-box and one in the 2-box and Cape Verde Basin (1) - 2-box

Naval Search:
Italy

In the Cape Verde Basin both roll a 3 and no combat occurs.

In the Cape St Vincent its the same, the Axis roll a 6 and the Allies an 8. No combat.

Germany

The Germans decline combat in the Baltic. What do the CW want to do?




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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 3:52:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fairey initiates combat.

No extra air, sub is included.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 3:58:25 PM   
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Naval search
Germany

Genuinely nothing to be done but grit one's teeth and laugh - which is not easy when gritting one's teeth.

Allies - 3
Axis - 5

What are the CW going to do?

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:02:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did some calculations and I think I can’t abort/sink those CPs using sub.

So I take naval air combat and choose box 3.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:04:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:04:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris?
warspite1

Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack.

It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans.



Eh, I think you're fine as long as the French can't end the turn early. Unless the weather goes bad and the turn starts advancing quickly, you'll have at least one guaranteed impulse to take a crack at Paris. If you want to risk the Allies getting an end-of-turn roll before then, you can take the hex NW of Paris to get a third hex that is also not covered by a fort.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:06:48 PM   
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Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse.

Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:12:32 PM   
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Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse.

Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left.
warspite1

No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think?


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:14:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris?
warspite1

Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack.

It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans.



Eh, I think you're fine as long as the French can't end the turn early. Unless the weather goes bad and the turn starts advancing quickly, you'll have at least one guaranteed impulse to take a crack at Paris. If you want to risk the Allies getting an end-of-turn roll before then, you can take the hex NW of Paris to get a third hex that is also not covered by a fort.

I did builds for this defense. The only thing I'm missing (in addition to planes that where shot down with pilots) is AA gun.

I'm pretty confident Paris is difficult to attack. I have INF (6), GAR (6) and ART (4) in city. Behind Paris I have HQ and on adjacent hex ART (3).

NW hex has INF (6) and MECH (6) now, next impulse I can place ARM and AT gun there. If I keep INF, ARM and AT gun there, Germany needs at least 2,5 ARM to get blitz. Germany has 2 ARM + ARM HQ in Belgium. ARM div is in Kiel for counter attack if CW comes to Germany. So to get blitz, Germany need to commit HQ to attack. Unless they would have attacked this impulse, but they have only one fighter in range and France has FTR2 and FTR3 to support attack and ART (4) in Paris.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:15:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: composer99


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

I am curious. Why did the French give up two full hexrows, letting the Germans immediately get adjacent to Paris?
warspite1

Seems sensible to me. The Germans now have to waste an entire impulse getting units in a position to attack next impulse (if they are lucky) - which means the units in Denmark are in danger of annihilation the way my convoy points have been found and destroyed almost at will. If the Germans take a more cautious approach to try and save the units in Denmark then it will take even longer - and not guarantee saving Denmark either. And the longer it takes, the more chance of the turn ending... No German aircraft are in position to assist an attack against France. The French have artillery and AT (and forts) which means even if they got to the French front line, the Germans aren't taking it anytime soon and run the risk of being ground struck before they can attack.

It looks like a sound plan to me and frankly pretty hopeless for the Germans.



Eh, I think you're fine as long as the French can't end the turn early. Unless the weather goes bad and the turn starts advancing quickly, you'll have at least one guaranteed impulse to take a crack at Paris. If you want to risk the Allies getting an end-of-turn roll before then, you can take the hex NW of Paris to get a third hex that is also not covered by a fort.
warspite1

Assuming I can even get a crack at the hex without being ground struck what are the chances of taking out Paris, with forts and three units, from two hexes? Sounds like a receipe for total German disaster.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:15:59 PM   
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Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse.

Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left.
warspite1

No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think?


Oh, you have fleet there. I though all ships are in box 0. Can I choose 0 box only and use 4 points to sub combat?

EDIT: This is what happens when you read in hurry from phone

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:17:33 PM   
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Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse.

Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left.
warspite1

No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think?


Oh, you have fleet there. I though all ships are in box 0. Can I choose 0 box only and use 4 points to sub combat?
warspite1

Yes the post says 3-box.


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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:19:25 PM   
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Okay as if my mood wasn't bad enough, we now have more buggy crap. Only the two ships in the 3-box last impulse are showing. Looks like I'm going to have to re-do the impulse.

Wait. I aborted one of them last impulse. You should have only 2 left.
warspite1

No I just put to sea with a whole new fleet. I've re-done and they show up. Any undo in the naval phase completely screws the game up. If you want to undo then you should start the impulse over. Does this mean you want to re-think?


Oh, you have fleet there. I though all ships are in box 0. Can I choose 0 box only and use 4 points to sub combat?
warspite1

Yes the post says 3-box.


Yeah, I missed that. My priority was to sink CPs with sub, but I can also go with planes to box 3 if you are at that stage.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:23:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you are in naval air combat, don't use any points to AA fire. I think you have lowest of 4. Any points I may have are saved to increase damage.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:25:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've just re-done the impulse and seen the last two posts. What do you want me to do?

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:26:00 PM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:33:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damage points = 2 and a 1 point reduction - is that right??

Nothing happened - is this on half range maybe?




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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:34:35 PM   
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Allies stay and sub is included.

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 4:37:58 PM   
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Impulse: 2 (Axis)

Naval search (cont):
Germany

Allies - 7
Axis - 4

No combat

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Japan

Yamamoto moves closer to the action

Italy

An INF takes Khartoum
The Invasion of British Somaliland is underway

Germany

The Germans make tentative moves into France

Debark:
Germany

An ART lands in Copenhagen

Japan

The MIL and INF are landed in Tsingtao and Haichow

Land Combat: None

Air Rebase:
Italy

A fighter moves to Rostock
A second fighter moves south of Leipzig

Germany

The Germans move 3 fighters and 2 bombers closer to the front


Weather: Allied Impulse 3 - the throw is a 10




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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 6:40:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		J/A 40 Allied 3

No DoW

France and China land, others combined.

Naval move
CW sends escorts to CSV box 0 and 4.
US sends CAs to East Coast.

CW declines all but Baltic Sea.

No more planes for Allies, I guess Germany don't send anymore either?

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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 7:02:44 PM   
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RE: Minor Conflict: Warspite1 vs Mayhemizer AAR - 4/26/2019 7:04:30 PM   
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Allied 5, Axis 2. Both high boxes find.

Germany has 2 points. They will automatically negate CW air power, so I use them to increase AA fire.

Rolls: 3 5 4 6.

No damage, new round is coming. I assume Axis stay?

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