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The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 2:26:19 PM

Ardi

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Hello everyone! Guess I should do a bit of introduction.
I'm starting the first AAR of my first PBEM game in WitP:AE. AARs are the thing that brought me into this awesome game (John 3rd vs Canoerebel was my first to read I believe), so when I've finally decided to play against a human opponent, I though it will be a good idea to make my own, to record my thoughts and actions, so I could later analyze them, and possibly get some advices and comments from the experienced members of the community.

I can't say I've played too much of WitP before. I did every small scenario, some (Coral Sea especially) for a few times. Started Grand Campaign twice as Japan (I'm JFB a bit), one until May 1942, the other till March 1942. Eventually it became a bit boring, not even because of the not-so-smart AI (I was playing standard AI on hard difficulty), but because I always get bored playing against the machine, even if it trashes me competely. Probably my love for the competetive multiplayer games plays the role in this mindset, but I always like to play against human opponents. It is very fun to understand that there is another person on the other side of the screen trying to outsmart you, while you struggling to prevent it.

So I've finally decided to play WitP online, but since Grand Campaign is a massive undertaking and I'm not sure I'll be able to keep up playing for few years straight, I decided to start off with some small scenarios, to get the taste of the PBEM games. I chose the Aleutians campaign since it is rarely played (at least rarely found in AAR section), is not too long and features interesting asymmetrical balance with US having heavy cruiser and battleship presence and strong LBA against Japanese carrier TF.

Mind_messing kindly offered to be my opponent in this. Since I've learned on his AARs how to plan Japanese industry and pilot training, I knew that my first challenge will be tough. Well, the better for me!

Here is the battleground.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 2:41:18 PM

Ardi

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What have I got?

Air

36 A6M2 Zero Sentai
18 A6M2-N Rufe Sentai
9 Ki-43-lla Oscar Detachment
6 E13A1 Jake Detachment
6 E13A1 Jake Detachment
12 H8K1 Emily � 16 days
18 G3M1 Betty � 19 days
54 A6M3a Zero, 54 D3A2 Val, 54 B5N2 Kate � 37 days

No striking capability, only patrol and fighter planes. Bettys can be used only on Paramushiro. Only with arrival of CVs I get any kind of striking capability.

Ground

100+ AV on each island, with some AA. Attu in addition gets some tanks, CDs and anti-tank guns.
Paramushiro also has 1 Army, 1 Fleet and 1 Air HQ, with 2 engi units, AA company and airfield unit.

96th Independent Mixed Brigade � 252 AV � 12 days � my only reinforcement on the ground.

Naval

10 SS, 7 DD, 2 CL � Combat ships
1 AMC, 1 AV, 1 AO, 1 AK, 1 AK-t, 3 xAP, 6 xAK
2 E�s � 9 days
2 CA � 13 days
1 DD � 14 days
2 SS � 29 days
2 CA, 2 DD � 34 days
1 AMC � 36 days
2 CV, 1 CVL, 1 BB, 4 CA, 2 CL, 2 DD � 37 days
1 AVC � 43 days
3 SS � 46 days

Bulk of the forces arrives in 37 days. Until then my forces will remain inferior to the US.

What has opponent got?

Didn�t look specifically before the game, but from playing this scenario I can recall that most of the US forces, including 3 battleships, arrive in 14 or 15 days. Also Allies have a lot of LBAs, mostly fighters, heavy bombers and patrol craft.

What will I do?
Let�s look at the global situation. The only locations of the map that give points, are the islands of Attu and Kiska. 40 points each for Japan and 25 for Allies. So not a lot of VPs for controlling the islands and the battle will be decided by the damage inflicted upon the enemy forces, not by holding the locations.
Still, this doesn�t mean that I can easily give up these islands. If I lose them early, Allies can just withdraw behind powerful LBA cover. Problem is, I don�t get a lot of land forces to reinforce the garrisons. Only the starting ones and a mixed brigade coming in 12 days. So, I decided to heavily reinforce one of the islands and use it as forward outpost for my fleet and air forces, and if Allies try to land on it, I will be able to inflict heavy damage upon their forces.
I chose Attu to become my fortress. Reasons for this are
1) Its capability to expand the airfield at least to lvl 2, to comfortably operate all my LBA and be able to use carrier planes on the ground if necessary
2) Distance from the Adak is 10 hexes, which should deny any fighter sweeps/escort from there, and I believe the bombers from Dutch Harbor won�t be able to reach it as well. Even if they are, they won�t be escorted.
3) It Is closer to Paramushiro than Kiska
So, the main idea is to beef up Attu with troops and supplies, so it would be able to stand any invasion attempt. Kiska is most likely to be overwhelmed, but using Attu as point to rearm and refuel, I might be able to inflict some damage on the landing force.
To execute this plan, I am moving most of the units from Paramushiro to Attu, besides CD unit and Air HQ. The main flaw I see with this plan is possible sneak attack on Paramushiro itself. Not likely, but still possible. Probably should keep 1-2 Glen subs to the south of Aleutians until Bettys arrive. Since I won�t be able to use them properly on Attu anyways (it�s not likely that I will be able to expand airfield there to lvl 4) they will be observing area around Paramushiro.
I wonder, if I lose Paramushiro, will all my Naval reinforcements be denied (since they arrive there)?
The main bulk of Allied Naval forces will arrive in 2 weeks I believe, while my main forces will be there in 37 days. So, I will be outgunned on the sea for three weeks straight. For that reason, it will be extremely important to move two convoys to Attu. One with the troops that are already at Paramushiro, and the other with infantry brigade.
So, I decided to put my subs in two lines from north to south between Kiska and Adak. 2 CL and 5 DD formed a SAG with Tanaka in charge. I�ve sent them forward to Attu, while transports and oiler were loading fuel. 2 DDs were with them to work against subs if necessary. Also I deploy 3 of 6 midgets at Kiska.
Zeros and Oscars will be based on Attu. Actually, since there are not a lot of dive or torpedo bombers for Allies, the best use for my LBA will be sweeping Allied bases and CAPing mine from heavy bombers. Probably could use Zeros at carriers, in case they lose too many of their own fighters. Could probably rebase Rufes there as well, but not sure if concentration will be a good idea. I�m a bit afraid about all these shiny planes being wrecked by battleship bombardment.

What will my opponent do?
No idea. I�ve never played against human in WitP. Standard AI isn�t that smart, so can�t say I�ve learned a lot from it. And since my first opponent is so formidable, my only chance is to improvise, adapt and try to overcome.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 2:51:02 PM

Ardi

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Day 1
Nothing too major. Everything starts to move, 2 of my AKs go to refit on their own (ouch, it takes 20 days), I notice that I can make 2 AKEs, which I do, so at least I�ll be able to refill my torpedoes somewhere. 1 B-24 lost to flak at Kiska, 1 A6M2 lost on transfer.

Day 2
US Task force of 2 CA, 3 CL and 6 DD bombards Kiska. 2 planes destroyed; many damaged. Midgets do nothing, 2 of them are down.
I decide to move my SAG closer to Kiska, in case something will follow the bombardment force.

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Night Naval bombardment of Kiska Island at 157,51

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 38 damaged
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 4 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CA Louisville
CA Indianapolis
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
CL Richmond
DD Aylwin
DD Monaghan
DD Dale
DD MacDonough
DD Hull
DD Dewey

Japanese ground losses:
514 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 23
Runway hits 85
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Day 3
Oddly enough that was a correct guess. I found task force of 3 DDs, probably an ASW group. Though it started well, the performance of small American destroyer saved the day for Allies. USS Coghlan managed to cripple Nokaze with just 3 shots, while suffering only one hit during whole engagement. Two other US DDs were badly damaged, but they still managed to escape.
Nokaze sunk later at night. Right after the battle Kiso took a torpedo from a submarine and had to withdraw to Paramushiro with a lightly damaged Kamikaze.
I moved remaining SAG 2 hexes north-east and stayed there for the turn, not quite following the escaped DDs, while not retreating either. Wasn�t quite sure what to do, but I felt quite safe since I knew that US cruisers had spent their ammo on bombardment just a day ago. That indecisiveness costed me dearly later.
Convoy finished loading and started to move to Attu.

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Kiska Island at 157,51, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
CL Kiso, Shell hits 2
DD Hatsushima, Shell hits 1
DD Wakaba
DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 1
DD Kamikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Nokaze, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Coghlan, Shell hits 1
DD Bancroft, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
DD Caldwell, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Kiska Island at 156,51

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Torpedo hits 1
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba

Allied Ships
SS S-33

SS S-33 launches 4 torpedoes at CL Kiso

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 2:52:43 PM

Ardi

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Day 4
Unsuccessful attack from one of my subs confirmed that crippled DDs were slowly (2 hexes per day) moving to Adak and I decided to intercept them. I ordered my task force to move near Adak at night, and then retreat to Attu. Convoy started to unload.

Day 5
That was a bad idea. At night my task force, already halved in size and partially without torpedoes, met full cruiser TF. In three engagements during the night I lost Abukuma and one of the DDs. Tanaka was reported killed. Several US ships were damaged, but nothing too serious.
Convoy and oiler were still unloading at Attu, bunch of troops were still on the ships. Knowing that US ships spent a bunch of their ammo during the night, I decided to try and intercept their force with a 4 remaining DDs, 2 of which still had torpedoes. I placed them between Attu and incoming threat.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Adak Island at 160,51, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba
DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis
CA Louisville
CL Richmond
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1
CL Detroit, Shell hits 1
DD Dewey
DD Hull
DD MacDonough
DD Dale, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Monaghan
DD Aylwin

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kiska Island at 159,51, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba
DD Shirakumo, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 2
CA Louisville
CL Richmond
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
DD Dewey
DD Hull
DD MacDonough, Shell hits 1
DD Dale, on fire
DD Monaghan, Shell hits 1
DD Aylwin, Shell hits 1

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kiska Island at 159,50, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba, Shell hits 1
DD Shirakumo, Shell hits 14, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis
CA Louisville
CL Richmond
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
DD Dewey
DD Hull
DD MacDonough
DD Dale, on fire
DD Monaghan, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Aylwin

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 2:56:48 PM

Ardi

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Day 6
Unfortunately, US ships slipped by. Fortunately, they missed the convoy, but sunk an oiler. It was bad idea to move fuel to Attu directly. I wish I placed this oiler somewhere near Medny island to replenish combat ships. Transports ate all the unloaded fuel anyway because I forgot to put them on �Do not refuel� command.
My DDs met US forces during the day. Fortunately for me, they had spent most of their ammo already, so I�ve lost only one DD.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 153,49, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AO Nippon Maru, Shell hits 53, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis
CA Louisville
CL Richmond
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
DD Dewey
DD Hull
DD MacDonough

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 154,49, Range 17,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
DD Namikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Numakaze, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis
CA Louisville
CL Richmond
CL Raleigh
CL Detroit
DD Dewey, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hull
DD MacDonough, Shell hits 2, on fire

Day 7
Sent two of my DDs on a small target spotted to the north of Kiska. They engaged with couple of DMs in close range, even suffering some hits from 40mm guns. My DDs were forced to retreat due to the lack of ammo.
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Kiska Island at 158,49, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze, Shell hits 3

Allied Ships
DM Pruitt, Shell hits 1
DM Sicard, Shell hits 2, on fire

Day 8
Convoy started to return to Paramushiro. My mistake, I could have unload it for couple of days longer.
Also tried night CAP with Rufes over the Kiska to disrupt B-24 bombings. No success.

Day 9
CL Richmond got hit by a torpedo. Attu is swept by P-38. Oscar CAP is swept aside.
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ASW attack near Kiska Island at 156,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-21, hits 4

Allied Ships
CL Richmond, Torpedo hits 1
CA Indianapolis
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
DD Gansevoort
DD Hull
DD Meade

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Afternoon Air attack on Attu Island , at 153,49

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
54th Sentai Det with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 36750.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes

Day 10
Indianapolis got hit by a torpedo. US forces bombard Kiska again.
Decided to try out low layered CAP. Oscars at 5000 feet, Zeros at 7000.
Escorts automatically went on refit for 9 days. Damn, forgot about it.
Rufes at least managed to shoot at US bombers a bit.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 24, 43
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Sub attack near Kiska Island at 159,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-9, hits 3

Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Torpedo hits 1
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
DD Frazier
DD Hull
DD Meade

SS I-9 launches 6 torpedoes at CA Indianapolis

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Night Air attack on Kiska Island , at 157,51

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 7

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 8000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
452 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 8000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes

Subs deployed on a main possible course for the US ships to strike at Attu. Moving some of them closer to Kiska and Adak

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 3:08:05 PM

Ardi

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Day 11
Low layered CAP worked quite well.
Brigade started to load. It came a day earlier than I expected.
For a few days tried to intercept B-24 bombarding Kiska at night with Rufes. No luck, but at least I've damaged a couple. Hope they crush somewhere near Dutch Harbor on landing.

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Afternoon Air attack on Attu Island , at 153,49

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 39000 feet

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 32810.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
54th Sentai Det with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 36750.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes

Day 12
I had a feeling that I should remove Zeros to Paramushiro, but I didn�t listen to it. Though I saw cruiser TF in 9 hexes from Attu, I�ve discarded the possibility of fast bombardment. Too bad for me. 9 planes lost, and my troops were badly damaged.
Sub torpedoes miss on Santa Fe. Sub is badly damaged.

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Night Naval bombardment of Attu Island at 153,49 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 44 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed on ground

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Wichita
CA Louisville
CL Santa Fe
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
DD Hull
DD Thompson
DD Meade
DD Gansevoort
DD Frazier
DD Coghlan

Japanese ground losses:
361 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 45

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Sub attack near Attu Island at 154,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-34, hits 18

Allied Ships
CL Santa Fe
CA Louisville
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
DD Coghlan
DD Hull
DD Thompson
DD Meade

Day 13
Lost an xAK that was trying to sneak supply to Attu alone. Big mistake, should never send AKs unescorted. Pity escorts were refitting.
Maya and Nachi arrived. Turned upgrades off on them, just in case.

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Sub attack near Attu Island at 152,48

Japanese Ships
xAK Melbourne Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-41

xAK Melbourne Maru is sighted by SS S-41
SS S-41 attacking on the surface

Day 14
Got an AM with torpedo from Sub. Ordered one sub to sneak to Adak directly. Convoy with 96th Brigade started to move to Attu. Saw US cruiser force in a position to do a flank run on the Attu again. So I redeployed all my LBA to Paramushiro, but transferred Rufes to Attu, just in case I was mistaken at that was a preparation to land on Kiska, rather than bombard Attu. US bombers strike Kiska at day.
Another DD arrived. I formed a task force of 2 CA and 4 DD (2 of them with torpedoes) to escort the convoy. Surprisingly, when choosing TF leader, I saw Tanaka on the list! He hadn�t been there just a couple of days ago. Guess someone managed to take admiral out of the Bering Sea!
But seriously, is it possible for commander to be reported killed, and then appear again? Or is this a bug? I put him in charge of the cruiser TF this time anyway.
Another P-38 sweep. Traded 2 for 2 this time.

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Morning Air attack on Attu Island , at 153,49

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
54th Sentai Det with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Raid is overhead

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Morning Air attack on Kiska Island , at 157,51

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 20

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

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Sub attack near Kiska Island at 158,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-31, hits 1

Allied Ships
DMS Perry
DMS Long
DMS Chandler

SS I-31 launches 2 torpedoes at DMS Perry
I-31 diving deep ....
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Chandler attacking submerged sub ....
DMS Chandler cannot establish contact with SS I-31
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
DMS Chandler fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kiska Island at 157,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-175

Allied Ships
AM Oriole, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

SS I-175 launches 2 torpedoes
I-175 bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection

Day 15
US AP got hit by two torpedoes near Adak, and sinking sounds were heard. US task force bombards Attu. Good possibility to start unloading of the troops. I order convoy to move to Attu at full speed. One of my subs is badly damaged and I move it to Attu to pump out water.

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Sub attack near Adak Island at 162,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
xAP Branch, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

xAP Branch is sighted by SS I-7
SS I-7 launches 2 torpedoes

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Night Naval bombardment of Attu Island at 153,49 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 6 damaged
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed on ground

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
CA Wichita
CA Louisville
CL Santa Fe, Shell hits 1
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
DD Hull
DD Thompson
DD Meade
DD Gansevoort
DD Frazier
DD Coghlan

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 22 (1 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 27

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ASW attack near Attu Island at 155,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-36, hits 6, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Gansevoort
CA Wichita
CA Louisville
CL Santa Fe
DD Hull
DD Coghlan
DD Thompson
DD Meade

SS I-36 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Gansevoort

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Submarine attack near Adak Island at 162,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
xAP Branch, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

xAP Branch is sighted by SS I-7
SS I-7 launches 2 torpedoes

I-36 crawling away.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 3:10:18 PM

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Day 16
Now this is a nice hit! Sinking sounds were heard, and 35 Wildcats are listed as lost, so I believe Nassau really was sunk. Though it is also a signal that main US forces are underway. I wonder which island they will target first. Convoy is spotted near Attu, along with the covering task force. I don�t see anything in a position to attack Attu next turn, if it�s not on flank speed. I hope to have at least two days to unload. Tanaka�s TF is positioned in a hex east of Attu.

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Sub attack near Adak Island at 164,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-7, hits 2

Allied Ships
CVE Nassau, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Mustin

Ammo storage explosion on CVE Nassau
SS I-7 launches 6 torpedoes at CVE Nassau
I-7 diving deep ....
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 3:27:27 PM

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I wonder, if I lose Paramushiro, will all my Naval reinforcements be denied (since they arrive there)?

I think you don't get anything until the base is again in your hands becuase there are not other main bases in this scenario (I checked the editor, stock scenario).

Good catch the CVE!

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 6:37:32 PM

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Japanese subs in 42 are the great white sharks they can strike without notice and really change a day.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 7:22:17 PM

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Thanks guys. Appointing commanders with good naval skill and agression and putting subs on direct route/absolute threat tolerance seems to do the job, even for mid-43. Guess it won't work so well later in the game.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/11/2019 10:41:20 PM

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Day 17

Tanaka's task force destroyed a group of 3 DMS, which were either on minesweeping or ASW duty. Or they could had been sent forward so my ships would spend ammo on them, but considering the timing of the battle and absence of heavy ships during this turn, this seems unlikely.

Unloading was done faster than I had imagined. Whole brigade was deployed in a day. Since my patrol spotted US cruiser task force moving west and my SAG wasted a lot of ammo on DMS, I ordered a full speed retreat for both convoy and it's cover. I hope they'll manage to escape.

US Air forces sweep and bombard Kiska. SInce US ships most likely are going for Attu (not sure if they bombard it or try to intercept the convoy) I decided to set a CAP trap on Kiska, moving Rufes and Zeros on it. I also ordered half of the Zeros to sweep Adak, just to try out US CAP. Not sure how it will turn out, but still worth a try.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 154,49, Range 3,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Nachi
DD Hatsushima
DD Usugumo
DD Kamikaze
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
DMS Perry
DMS Long
DMS Chandler, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

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ASW attack near Attu Island at 153,49

Japanese Ships
xAK Hakkai Maru
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-35, hits 5

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Attu Island at 155,50, Range 25,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Maya, Shell hits 2
CA Nachi
DD Hatsushima
DD Usugumo
DD Kamikaze
DD Namikaze

Allied Ships
DMS Perry, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
DMS Long, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/14/2019 12:01:50 PM

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Hi, great AAR. Good luck repelling the US. I played the scenario against the AI, but here are some notes that might be useful for you. I played it the latest official, so some things might be incorrect.

If you disband the Tanker/Oiler at a port ships can refuel from it, so you don't need to unload the fuel. The downside is that it can be sunk in port.

The Adak base force doesn't have a radar. You should bring the Paramishiro BF to Attu and potentially swap them. Kiska has a radar, so you don't have to worry about it.

With the CVE down your opponent have little means of protecting his invasions from the air. You can sink some when he invades. His P-40s can cover Kiska at extended range, but I don't think it will be effective.

In my game the Betties flew from level 2 airfield at Attu. I also moved the Air HQ there for torpedoes.

It might be a bit late to do that though.

If you disband the AV at Attu it will feed torpedoes to the Emilies and they can strike with them. The are deadly if they can hit.

About sweeping Adak, he has so many P-40 that it is a loss for you. Naval bombardment might give better results.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/15/2019 9:41:46 PM

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Day 18

Subs performed very well. I-24 missed on CL Detroit, but made up for it by hitting CA Louisville with 3 torpedoes (1 was a dud). Heard a sinking sound. Detroit also couldn�t escape his fate this day, being hit once by I-35.
It appeared that US forces were on surface attack mission, as no bombardment was commenced. Patrol spotted task force of 3 DDs moving to Attu from Adak, so I decided to pull subs of from this area, and also ordered two of them to try their luck on Adak.
CAP trap worked quite well. Fearing retaliation, I withdrew all fighters that could fly on Attu.
My surface ships escaped with no harm. This means that first part of my plan was completed. Now I should devise my next moves. Main question is � should I attempt to strike somewhere with my surface forces before carriers arrive? I think not. I could use my cruisers and destroyers to try and sneak up on landing transports, if only there were more bases to operate. Here the point of attack is too obvious as well as the point of retreat, so my movements will be quite easy to predict. Since subs are working quite nice, I probably leave the fighting for them for a time being,
AKE is finishing the conversion, will be ready in 4 days.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 02, 43
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Sub attack near Attu Island at 155,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-24

Allied Ships
CL Detroit
CA Wichita
CA Louisville
CL Santa Fe
DD Coghlan
DD Hull
DD Thompson
DD Meade

SS I-24 launches 6 torpedoes at CL Detroit
I-24 diving deep ....
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thompson attacking submerged sub ....
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Attu Island at 155,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-24, hits 1

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CA Wichita
CL Santa Fe
DD Coghlan
DD Hull
DD Thompson
DD Meade

SS I-24 launches 6 torpedoes at CA Louisville
DD Hull attacking submerged sub ....
DD Thompson fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Meade fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kiska Island at 158,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-35

Allied Ships
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Santa Fe
DD Coghlan
DD Thompson
DD Meade

Massive explosion on CL Detroit
SS I-35 launches 6 torpedoes at CL Detroit
I-35 diving deep ....
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thompson fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Thompson attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Kiska Island , at 157,51

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M2-N Rufe x 7

Allied aircraft
Ventura GR.V x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 8
PV-1 Ventura x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Ventura GR.V: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 10 on standby, 14 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
24 planes vectored on to bombers
452 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Kiska Island , at 157,51

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
A6M2-N Rufe x 5

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
452 Ku S-1 with A6M2-N Rufe (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes

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Sub attack near Attu Island at 155,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-24, hits 2

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Hull

SS I-24 launches 6 torpedoes at CA Louisville
DD Hull attacking submerged sub ....
DD Hull is out of ASW ammo
DD Hull is out of ASW ammo
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Day 19

My guess about bombardment of Kiska was correct. It was pummeled by everything Allied Navy got at night and heavily swept at day. Unfortunately, two subs missed on BB Idaho, and one sub that had sneaked to Adak was badly damaged.
For the time being I withdrew all fighters to Paramushiro. Without surface fleet and subs gradually retreating to Paramushiro for repairs and resupply, they are very vulnerable to surface bombardments.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 03, 43
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Sub attack near Kiska Island at 159,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-31

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
DM Pruitt
DD Kane

SS I-31 launches 6 torpedoes at BB Idaho
I-31 diving deep ....
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-31 eludes DD Kane by diving deep
DD Kane cannot establish contact with SS I-31
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Kiska Island at 157,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-175

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
DD Bancroft
DM Pruitt
DD Kane

SS I-175 launches 4 torpedoes at BB Idaho
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kane cannot establish contact with SS I-175
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-35

SS I-35 is sighted by escort
I-35 bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection

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Night Naval bombardment of Kiska Island at 157,51

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Wichita
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
DD Thompson
DD Meade
DD Gansevoort
DD Frazier
DD Coghlan

Japanese ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 16
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 5

CA Wichita firing at Kiska Island
SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CL Detroit
CL Detroit firing at Kiska Island
CL Raleigh firing at Kiska Island
DD Thompson firing at 8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
DD Meade firing at Maizuru 3rd SNLF
DD Gansevoort firing at Kiska Island
DD Frazier firing at Kiska Island
DD Coghlan firing at Kiska Island

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Night Naval bombardment of Kiska Island at 157,51

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
BB Pennsylvania
BB Nevada
DD Kane
DD Bancroft
DM Pruitt

Japanese ground losses:
122 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6
Port hits 9
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 3

BB Idaho firing at 8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
BB Pennsylvania firing at Kiska Island
BB Nevada firing at Kiska Air Defense AA Division
DD Kane firing at Kiska Island
DD Bancroft firing at 8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
DM Pruitt firing at Kiska Island

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ASW attack near Kiska Island at 157,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-175, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Bancroft
DM Pruitt
DD Kane

SS I-175 is sighted by escort
I-175 bottoming out ....
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane attacking submerged sub ....
DD Kane loses contact with SS I-175
DD Kane cannot establish contact with SS I-175
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Kane fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Morning Air attack on Kiska Island , at 157,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 12

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Kiska Island , at 157,51

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 18

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet

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ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-35, hits 10, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Mustin

SS I-35 is sighted by escort
DD Mustin attacking submerged sub ....
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Days 20-24

Uneventful. I decided to wait until the bulk of IJN forces arrives.

Here is the list of the ships lost on day 22.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/15/2019 10:03:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: tarkalak

Hi, great AAR. Good luck repelling the US. I played the scenario against the AI, but here are some notes that might be useful for you. I played it the latest official, so some things might be incorrect.

If you disband the Tanker/Oiler at a port ships can refuel from it, so you don't need to unload the fuel. The downside is that it can be sunk in port.

The Adak base force doesn't have a radar. You should bring the Paramishiro BF to Attu and potentially swap them. Kiska has a radar, so you don't have to worry about it.

With the CVE down your opponent have little means of protecting his invasions from the air. You can sink some when he invades. His P-40s can cover Kiska at extended range, but I don't think it will be effective.

In my game the Betties flew from level 2 airfield at Attu. I also moved the Air HQ there for torpedoes.
It might be a bit late to do that though.

If you disband the AV at Attu it will feed torpedoes to the Emilies and they can strike with them. The are deadly if they can hit.

About sweeping Adak, he has so many P-40 that it is a loss for you. Naval bombardment might give better results.

Thanks!
Unfortunately, I've lost my oiler already. Thanks for this hint though, I will definetly put into use in my next games.
As for Bettys, I was under impression that medium bombers need an AF size 4 to fly with full load. I'll try it later in the game though.
Thanks for the tip about AV and Emilys. Also I'll probably try to sweep Adak, but only when carriers arrive.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/16/2019 9:57:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ardi

quote:

ORIGINAL: tarkalak

Hi, great AAR. Good luck repelling the US. I played the scenario against the AI, but here are some notes that might be useful for you. I played it the latest official, so some things might be incorrect.

If you disband the Tanker/Oiler at a port ships can refuel from it, so you don't need to unload the fuel. The downside is that it can be sunk in port.

The Adak base force doesn't have a radar. You should bring the Paramishiro BF to Attu and potentially swap them. Kiska has a radar, so you don't have to worry about it.

With the CVE down your opponent have little means of protecting his invasions from the air. You can sink some when he invades. His P-40s can cover Kiska at extended range, but I don't think it will be effective.

In my game the Betties flew from level 2 airfield at Attu. I also moved the Air HQ there for torpedoes.
It might be a bit late to do that though.

If you disband the AV at Attu it will feed torpedoes to the Emilies and they can strike with them. The are deadly if they can hit.

About sweeping Adak, he has so many P-40 that it is a loss for you. Naval bombardment might give better results.

Thanks!
Unfortunately, I've lost my oiler already. Thanks for this hint though, I will definetly put into use in my next games.
As for Bettys, I was under impression that medium bombers need an AF size 4 to fly with full load. I'll try it later in the game though.
Thanks for the tip about AV and Emilys. Also I'll probably try to sweep Adak, but only when carriers arrive.

Bombs will work against transports as well. Some forumites have had success even with the small 60 kg bombs and Jakes.

In my humble opinion sweeping Adak is counterproductive. What will you achieve with that?
Naval bombardments do better and you don't have the airforce to shut down the airfield anyway. I was able to take Adak from the AI, but it takes several days of unloading and the CDs killed most of my transports. I don't think it is possible against a capable opponent.

If MM doesn't invade until your carriers arrive, I think he is in trouble.

Also, bases give points relative to the size of port + airfield. If he takes a base he can pump up his score by enlarging it.

Total Base points = base points * (port size + airfield size)

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/16/2019 2:43:36 PM

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tarkalak: Total Base points = base points * (port size + airfield size)

A small correction:
Total Base points = base points * (port size + [airfield size*2])

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/16/2019 6:04:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tarkalak

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ardi

quote:

ORIGINAL: tarkalak

Hi, great AAR. Good luck repelling the US. I played the scenario against the AI, but here are some notes that might be useful for you. I played it the latest official, so some things might be incorrect.

If you disband the Tanker/Oiler at a port ships can refuel from it, so you don't need to unload the fuel. The downside is that it can be sunk in port.

The Adak base force doesn't have a radar. You should bring the Paramishiro BF to Attu and potentially swap them. Kiska has a radar, so you don't have to worry about it.

With the CVE down your opponent have little means of protecting his invasions from the air. You can sink some when he invades. His P-40s can cover Kiska at extended range, but I don't think it will be effective.

In my game the Betties flew from level 2 airfield at Attu. I also moved the Air HQ there for torpedoes.
It might be a bit late to do that though.

If you disband the AV at Attu it will feed torpedoes to the Emilies and they can strike with them. The are deadly if they can hit.

About sweeping Adak, he has so many P-40 that it is a loss for you. Naval bombardment might give better results.

Thanks!
Unfortunately, I've lost my oiler already. Thanks for this hint though, I will definetly put into use in my next games.
As for Bettys, I was under impression that medium bombers need an AF size 4 to fly with full load. I'll try it later in the game though.
Thanks for the tip about AV and Emilys. Also I'll probably try to sweep Adak, but only when carriers arrive.

Bombs will work against transports as well. Some forumites have had success even with the small 60 kg bombs and Jakes.

In my humble opinion sweeping Adak is counterproductive. What will you achieve with that?
Naval bombardments do better and you don't have the airforce to shut down the airfield anyway. I was able to take Adak from the AI, but it takes several days of unloading and the CDs killed most of my transports. I don't think it is possible against a capable opponent.

If MM doesn't invade until your carriers arrive, I think he is in trouble.

Also, bases give points relative to the size of port + airfield. If he takes a base he can pump up his score by enlarging it.

Total Base points = base points * (port size + airfield size)

Problem with bombardment is that MM has superior naval force. I also believe that I'm not able to rearm Musashi with AKEs that I have, so I wouldn't want to waste it's ammo on bombardment. And it's dangerous to send only cruisers against 3 battleships.
Also I lost my oiler, so I can't refuel on Attu efficently. Probably I can draw fuel from the big transports, but it will require time and will disorganize my forces. For these reasons I'm restraining to use full speed except for the emergency cases, thus denying myself the fast bombardment runs.
The only way I see to comfortably pummel Allied ground troops and airfields is to destroy or severely damage their naval forces. But strong CAP and LRCAP will deny my main weapon - the carriers. So I need to reduce it so Allies won't be able to stay under its cover or hide in port.
Also thanks to you and BBfanboy for details on base point formula. More the reason was to fortify Attu since it has more potential for development than Kiska. Kiska is 1(1) in AF and 2(2) in port, and even if I lose it, I doubt Allies will be able to expand it beyond the standard size in short timeframe of the scenario, so it will give 60 point difference at maximum.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/16/2019 7:04:38 PM

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Day 25

Invasion on Kiska. Mind_messing told me later in PM that he had confused his landing forces and attacked Kiska with troops prepped for Attu, hence the huge damage on the troops upon landing.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 09, 43
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Pre-Invasion action off Kiska Island (157,51)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

161 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
AP U.S. Grant
DD Balch
DD Dale

Japanese ground losses:
297 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB Idaho firing at 303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
CL Detroit firing at Kiska Air Defense AA Division
CL Raleigh firing at Maizuru 3rd SNLF
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

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Amphibious Assault at Kiska Island (157,51)

TF 8 troops unloading over beach at Kiska Island, 157,51

Allied ground losses:
902 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 113 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 55 (0 destroyed, 55 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

13 troops of a USA 43 Rifle Squad accidentally lost during unload of 32nd USA Rgt
M3 Stuart Light Tank lost from landing craft during unload of 4th (Sep) Infantry Rgt
13 troops of a USA 43 Rifle Squad lost overboard during unload of 17th USA Rgt
12 troops of a US 43 Cmbt Eng Sqd lost from landing craft during unload of 18th Combat Engr Rgt

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Night Naval bombardment of Kiska Island at 157,51

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania
BB Nevada
DD Kane
DD Bancroft
DM Pruitt

Japanese ground losses:
230 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 30 (1 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 3
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

BB Pennsylvania firing at 8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
BB Nevada firing at Kiska Island
DD Kane firing at Kiska Island
DD Bancroft firing at Kiska Island
DM Pruitt firing at Maizuru 3rd SNLF

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ASW attack near Kiska Island at 157,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-175, hits 7

Allied Ships
CL Santa Fe
CL Richmond
AVP Teal
AGC Bibb
AP Zeilin
xAP Flavel
xAK George W. Julian
DD Monaghan
DD Dale

SS I-175 is sighted by escort
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Dale fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Monaghan attacking submerged sub ....
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Monaghan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Invasion Support action off Kiska Island (157,51)

52 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
CL Detroit
CL Raleigh
CL Richmond
DD Farragut
DD Balch
AP U.S. Grant
DD Monaghan

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB Idaho firing at Kiska Air Defense AA Division
CL Detroit firing at Maizuru 3rd SNLF
CL Raleigh firing at Kiska Air Defense AA Division
CL Richmond firing at Kiska Air Defense AA Division
DD Farragut firing at Maizuru 3rd SNLF
DD Balch firing at Kiska Air Defense AA Division
DD Farragut fired at enemy troops
DD Balch fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards

Day 26-27

Invasion continues. I-24 lost.

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Submarine attack near Kiska Island at 157,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-24, hits 31, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Frazier
DD Lansdowne
DD Hull
DD Mustin
DD Thompson
DD Meade

SS I-24 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Frazier
DD Hull fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin attacking submerged sub ....
DD Thompson fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Meade fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hull attacking submerged sub ....
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meade fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-24 forced to surface!
DD Thompson firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Meade firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hull firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Thompson firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Thompson firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Meade firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hull firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Thompson firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Meade firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hull firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves

Day 28

First Allied Deliberate attack. 1 to 2, forts still stand.

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Ground combat at Kiska Island (157,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7804 troops, 126 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 267

Defending force 4303 troops, 135 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 96

Allied adjusted assault: 118

Japanese adjusted defense: 325

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
183 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
147 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
17th USA Regiment
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
32nd USA Regiment
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
7th Div Prov Battalion
81st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
4th Engineer Coy
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
Kiska Air Defense AA Division
51st JNAF AF Unit

Day 29

Quiet day.

Day 30

Allied attack on Kiska reduced forts to 1.

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Ground combat at Kiska Island (157,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7874 troops, 125 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Defending force 4201 troops, 131 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 86

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied adjusted assault: 118

Japanese adjusted defense: 193

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
238 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
629 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
17th USA Regiment
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
32nd USA Regiment
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
7th Div Prov Battalion
81st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
4th Engineer Coy
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
Kiska Air Defense AA Division
51st JNAF AF Unit

Day 31

Another attack. Japanese forces hold on the scraps delivered by Emilys. Seems to be effective as I don't see negative combat modifier on supply for my troops.

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Ground combat at Kiska Island (157,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7512 troops, 125 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 217

Defending force 4071 troops, 131 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Allied adjusted assault: 64

Japanese adjusted defense: 196

Allied assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
282 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
180 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
17th USA Regiment
32nd USA Regiment
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
7th Div Prov Battalion
81st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
4th Engineer Coy
303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
Kiska Air Defense AA Division
51st JNAF AF Unit

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/16/2019 7:22:28 PM

Ardi

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Day 32

Bettys managed to reach the ships around Attu. I guess the invasion is inbound.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 16, 43
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,49

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Coghlan
CA San Francisco

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Day 33

Even with Lightning LRCAP, Bettys were able to come through. Though they missed on the big boys, one torpedo found itself a DD to hit.
Allied forces (2 US Regiments) landed on Attu.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 17, 43
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,49

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 9 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Idaho
CA Wichita
CL Raleigh
DD Meade, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

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ASW attack near Attu Island at 153,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-169, hits 11

Allied Ships
DD Mustin
CL Santa Fe
CL Detroit
AMC Prince Henry
AVD Casco
AGC Bibb
AP J. Franklin Bell
LST-23
DD Kane
DD Hull

SS I-169 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Mustin
DD Kane fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin attacking submerged sub ....
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mustin fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Day 34

Nothing major.

Day 35

I-9 was damaged but she put a fish in Wichita. On Kiska Allied assault dropped forts to 0.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 19, 43
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Sub attack near Attu Island at 153,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-9, hits 9

Allied Ships
CA Wichita, Torpedo hits 1
DD Phelps
DD Gansevoort

SS I-9 launches 6 torpedoes at CA Wichita
I-9 bottoming out ....
DD Phelps attacking submerged sub ....
DD Gansevoort fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Phelps fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Phelps fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Phelps fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Phelps fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Ground combat at Kiska Island (157,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7663 troops, 125 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 240

Defending force 4063 troops, 130 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Allied adjusted assault: 143

Japanese adjusted defense: 94

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
393 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
228 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
32nd USA Regiment
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
17th USA Regiment
7th Div Prov Battalion
81st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
4th Engineer Coy
303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
Kiska Air Defense AA Division
51st JNAF AF Unit

Here are overall plane losses on day 33.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/16/2019 9:21:18 PM

Ardi

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Day 37

Considering the difference in numbers of Attu and absence of US big guns near the island, I decided to attack US forces on the beaches. Just deliberately, didn't risk the shock attack. But this was a day for failed ground attacks. Both Japanese attack on Attu and Allied on Kiska are deflected, though US losses on Attu are considerable.
And my fleet is finally here! While convoy is forming and loading supplies and air HQ to move them to Attu, fleet will move forward, to deny any possible bombardment of the islands.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 21, 43
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Ground combat at Attu Island (153,49)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10935 troops, 124 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 385

Defending force 5861 troops, 88 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 217

Japanese adjusted assault: 121

Allied adjusted defense: 389

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
898 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
629 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 87 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
301st Ind.Infantry Battalion
43rd Engineer Battalion
1st Engineer Coy
Det/45th Tank Regiment
96th Ind.Mixed Brigade
North Chichijima Naval Guard Unit
38th Const Coy
15th/16th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th JNAF AF Unit
35th RF Gun Battalion
13th Ind.AA Gun Coy
Attu Air Defense AA Division
Northern Army
North Chichijima CD Coastal Gun Battalion
5th Fleet
12th Naval Construction Battalion
57th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
184th USA Regiment

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Ground combat at Kiska Island (157,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7658 troops, 123 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 234

Defending force 3901 troops, 127 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 62

Allied adjusted assault: 89

Japanese adjusted defense: 118

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
326 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 44 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
17th USA Regiment
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
32nd USA Regiment
7th Div Prov Battalion
81st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
4th Engineer Coy
303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
Kiska Air Defense AA Division
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
51st JNAF AF Unit

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/17/2019 10:32:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ardi

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Problem with bombardment is that MM has superior naval force. I also believe that I'm not able to rearm Musashi with AKEs that I have, so I wouldn't want to waste it's ammo on bombardment. And it's dangerous to send only cruisers against 3 battleships.
Also I lost my oiler, so I can't refuel on Attu efficently. Probably I can draw fuel from the big transports, but it will require time and will disorganize my forces. For these reasons I'm restraining to use full speed except for the emergency cases, thus denying myself the fast bombardment runs.
The only way I see to comfortably pummel Allied ground troops and airfields is to destroy or severely damage their naval forces. But strong CAP and LRCAP will deny my main weapon - the carriers. So I need to reduce it so Allies won't be able to stay under its cover or hide in port.
Also thanks to you and BBfanboy for details on base point formula. More the reason was to fortify Attu since it has more potential for development than Kiska. Kiska is 1(1) in AF and 2(2) in port, and even if I lose it, I doubt Allies will be able to expand it beyond the standard size in short timeframe of the scenario, so it will give 60 point difference at maximum.

No problem. I haven't went further than the small scenarios against AI, so my "advice" might not be spot on. Take with a pinch of salt.

Yeah, Musashi is a one shot weapon here. You can use it as a CV escort even without main gun ammo, the AA should still fire.

You can bombard his invasion forces with the cruisers. If you can keep his disablements, fatigue and disruption high they should collapse. Your attack on Attu costed him more than you - he has more disabled. That is if you trust the casualies in the AAR of course.

Without the CVE he cannot CAP his planes outside bases and LRCAP is less effective. You have seen that at Attu. Your best bet at sinking his ships at sea.

How is your Naval Search organized? Do you have night search as well?

EDIT: Btw are you replacing your pilots from the reserve pool? You have like 200 "superman" pilots there.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/17/2019 11:39:27 PM

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Talk about Fog of War by landing on the wrong Island. Makes the mistake at Utah Beach pale in comparison.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/18/2019 6:07:56 AM

Ardi

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Day 38

The main Japanese fleet is on the way to Attu. it was composed in two task forces. CVTF included carriers, CAs Tone, Chickuma and Maya (plenty of float planes, good AA, good endurance, Maya also has some ASW capability), Agano and Oyodo (I considered them too weak to be in the main combat force) and 5 DDs.
SAG had Musashi and 5 heavy cruisers (Nachi, Kumano, Haguro, Mogami and Myoko) and 4 DDs. Initial plan was to position SAG a bit to the east of Attu and carriers in 5 hex range to the north, so my fleet could cover approaching convoy.

Kumano managed to escape an attack from USS Narwhal just out of Paramushiro. I-7 tried to sneak to Adak, but failed. The lesson for me, not ot expect miracles too often (it was I-7 who sunk CVE Nassau, as well as an AP a day before that). Luckily it survived, but the number of my damaged subs rose to 6 (and one lost, not counting midgets)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 22, 43
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Sub attack near Paramushiro-jima at 139,48

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Nachi
DD Hatsushima
DD Samidare

Allied Ships
SS Narwhal

SS Narwhal launches 2 torpedoes at CA Kumano
Narwhal diving deep ....
DD Hatsushima attacking submerged sub ....
DD Samidare fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hatsushima fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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ASW attack near Adak Island at 162,52

Japanese Ships
SS I-7, hits 10

Allied Ships
xAP Perida
DD Bache

SS I-7 is sighted by escort
DD Bache attacking submerged sub ....
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Bache fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/18/2019 6:20:42 AM

Ardi

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tarkalak

No problem. I haven't went further than the small scenarios against AI, so my "advice" might not be spot on. Take with a pinch of salt.

Yeah, Musashi is a one shot weapon here. You can use it as a CV escort even without main gun ammo, the AA should still fire.

You can bombard his invasion forces with the cruisers. If you can keep his disablements, fatigue and disruption high they should collapse. Your attack on Attu costed him more than you - he has more disabled. That is if you trust the casualies in the AAR of course.

Without the CVE he cannot CAP his planes outside bases and LRCAP is less effective. You have seen that at Attu. Your best bet at sinking his ships at sea.

How is your Naval Search organized? Do you have night search as well?

EDIT: Btw are you replacing your pilots from the reserve pool? You have like 200 "superman" pilots there.

Actually about Musashi being one-shot weapon. I believe there is some possibility to withdraw ship offmap (even Japanese in small scenario) to repair and replenish it. Will try that with Musashi later. Since US lack air striking capability in the scenario, I doubt it will be useful as AA platform and I don't want to risk such big bag of VPs if it is unable to fire back.

It's true about the bombardments. My AKE is coming to disband at Attu so it could rearm ships there. Not sure if can save Kiska garrison, but I'll be able to avenge them at least. But first I want be sure that I won't be intercepted by battleship task force. Mybe low threat tolerance will help, since my cruisers aree faster than US BBs. Didn't take it to account before.

Naval search is performed by 2 Jake groups (no arcs, just around Attu). There were also Bettys flying from Paramushiro, but I decided to try and move them to Attu by sea (messed up with that though, wrong transport force composition. Now they are all damaged becaused they were accidently unloaded, and I'll have to return for them later with next convoy). Now carriers and float planes from cruisers also help. Actually I don't fly night search. Are japanese able to spot anything at night? Probably should switch couple of floatplane groups to night search.

I do use reserve pool, but not as much as I should have probably. Mostly I just expanded the pilot number in the groups with it, so pilots would be less fatigued.

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/18/2019 7:24:35 AM

Ardi

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Day 39

Trying to sweep Adak to test out defences. Tomorrow carrier fighters will join. The idea si to deplete the number of Allied fighters so my strike planes will be able to comfortably operate on Adak or near it.
Results were abut equal at the end of the day.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 23, 43
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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 14
P-40E Warhawk x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 154 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 51 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 64 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

Day 40

Battle over Adak continued. Allies reinforced their CAP with Lightnings, while Japanese sweeps were joined by carrier fighters. Again we traded almost 1:1.
At Kiska lack of supply from planes started to show itself. Negative supply modifier came into effect. This was because I tried to move my Air HQ and all planes by the sea to Attu, thus cancelling resupply operations. Bad idea, but I'll remember how useful are transport planes at supplying bases like these. Especially float transports.
Naval search spotted small group of ships near Adak. I was considering bombardment of the island, but decided not to risk it since I had no info about Allied Navy. So I decided to probe into waters near Adak with my SAG with the cover of the carriers, probably to catch something there. Wasn't sure what to expect, but with depleted Allied CAP this would be the best position for me to fight at the moment, even against whole Allied fleet. Even if it dismantles my SAG, carriers will strike them from above. And so Tanaka turned his ships south-east...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 24, 43
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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 12
P-38G Lightning x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 5 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 6
P-38G Lightning x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 157 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 2
P-38G Lightning x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 11 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 99 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 2
P-38G Lightning x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes

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Ground combat at Kiska Island (157,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7629 troops, 123 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 225

Defending force 3812 troops, 127 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Allied adjusted assault: 80

Japanese adjusted defense: 91

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
381 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
32nd USA Regiment
17th USA Regiment
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
7th Div Prov Battalion
81st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
4th Engineer Coy
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
Kiska Air Defense AA Division
51st JNAF AF Unit

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Day 41 - Battle of Adak part 1

Two Japanese task forces were steaming south-east in darkness, fighting waves and rain. Suddenly carrier group was attacked by lonely US destroyer, probably on patrol duty. Two shells hit Zuikaku, but caused no significant damage. Agano returned fire, and US destroyer disappeared in darkness.
Though alerted about it's presence, Tanaka's force couldn't spot the enemy ship in this weather, before musashi was hit by its shell. After engaging in brief contact, destroyer dissapeared again, retreating to Adak.
But since they were on the same course, it couldn't escape its fate. After a brief encounter in the early morning, it was caught by Japanese forces. Two 46cm shells were enough to turn it into the wreck.

Since there wasn't any report about heavy activity near Adak, the news about Allied task force present became a surprise for Japanese. But they were prepared for surprises like these and were not caught offguard, despite the fact that they had been spotted long before they saw the enemy, due to Allies having radar.
Ships from both sides started to form columns to engage the enemy with all their guns. Allies had only three cruisers against Japanese battleship and five cruisers, but they had ten destroyers against four, so there was still a chance to put few good torpedoes and equalize the odds, especially in the weather like this. Due to the continuing thunderstorm visibility was low and opposing forces were only six kilometers apart at the start of the battle, gradually closing the distance...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kiska Island at 158,49, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku, Shell hits 2
CVL Zuiho
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CA Maya
CL Oyodo
CL Agano
DD Naganami
DD Usugumo
DD Kamikaze
DD Namikaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
DD Bache, Shell hits 1

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 50% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 50% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 14,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
Adler, T.E. crosses the 'T'
DD Bache engages CV Zuikaku at 2,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Bache at 2,000 yards
DD Numakaze engages DD Bache at 2,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Bache at 2,000 yards
DD Bache engages DD Numakaze at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Bache at 4,000 yards
CL Agano engages DD Bache at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
DD Numakaze engages DD Bache at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Numakaze engages DD Bache at 7,000 yards
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kiska Island at 159,50, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Shell hits 2
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Mogami
CA Kumano
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Wakazuki
DD Samidare
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
DD Bache

Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 50% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 50% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
BB Musashi engages DD Bache at 2,000 yards
CA Nachi engages DD Bache at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
BB Musashi engages DD Bache at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
BB Musashi engages DD Bache at 5,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Bache at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
BB Musashi engages DD Bache at 6,000 yards
CA Mogami engages DD Bache at 6,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Adak Island at 160,51, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Mogami
CA Kumano
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Wakazuki
DD Samidare
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
DD Bache

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 19,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Allied TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 13,000 yards...
Range increases to 18,000 yards...
Range increases to 23,000 yards...
Range increases to 28,000 yards...
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Allied Surface Combat TF evades combat

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Adak Island at 161,51, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Shell hits 1
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CA Mogami
CA Kumano
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Wakazuki
DD Samidare
DD Hatsushima

Allied Ships
DD Bache, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 7,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 25,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 7,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
Tanaka, R. crosses the 'T'
BB Musashi engages DD Bache at 7,000 yards
DD Bache sunk by BB Musashi at 7,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...

Disposition at the start of the battle

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Day 41 - Battle of Adak part 2

The firefight escalated quickly. Capital ships mostly concentrated on trading blows between themselves, while destroyers were fighting among each other. Such situation became very unfavorable for amertican cruisers, as they started to take pounding from 20cm cruiser guns, and, much more dangerously, the 46cm monsters from Musashi. DM Pruitt kept closer to heavy ships, since it lacked torpedoes to operate together with destroyers, and that became her demise. She caught attention from Kumano, and first torpedo salvo launched by the cruiser was the ultimate blow for Pruitt. She broke up in two and sunk in mere minutes.
On the edges of the battle line Japanese and American destroyers were entangled in the dance of death. Rapid fire guns were blowing up water everywhere, ocassionaly hitting enemy ships, which were actively manuevering, escaping torpedo salvoes. And despite fewer numbers, Japanese destroyers drew first blood. US destroyer Dale, actively engaging her Japanese counterparts Hatsushima and Samidare, missed the torpedo attack from Hatsuzuki. One fish was enough.

After that fight winded down a bit as American forces started to move away. However their cruisers had already suffered a beating and were slowed down by the damage. Seeing them burning, Tanaka ordered to close the distance. In the raging thunderstorm ships went to fight almost at point blank range, closing distance to 2000 metres...

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Day 41 - Battle of Adak part 3

It quickly turned into slugfest. Damaged Allied cruisers were unable to properly answer, and destroyers had already spent most of their torpedoes. San Francisco was hit by more than fifteen 20 cm shells in a span of few minutes, and after another salvo from Kumano, she finally went under. Kumano then transfered her attention at an already crippled Raleigh, and after couple of salvoes US ship exploded.
In the destroyer shootout US forces started to come out on top. Hatsuzuki and Hatsushima were turned into burning wrecks, two other destroyers were also badly damaged. But now the Allied small ships started to get attention from the big boys. Myoko concentrated her fire on the DD Hull, and after a few precise shots American ship started to sink.
Of the capital ships only Detroit was still afloat, torn apart by Musashi, Nachi and Kumano. The latter managed to lay down the finishing blow here as well and burning cruiser disappeared under the waves.
After that Tanaka ordered his task force to disengage. They were running low on ammo and a lot of ships sustained heavy damage, especially destroyers. But even while desingaging, Japanese managed to deliver a final blow. Myoko, spending the remnants of her ammunition, was able to put couple of 20 cm shells in DD Phelps. Phelps had already been barely afloat after suffering a torpedo hit from Hatsushima, so this damage became fatal.
And with that, the battle was over. Japanese emerged victorious, but befor celebrating, they had to return first. Tanaka set a course to Attu...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Adak Island at 162,52, Range 6,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Musashi, Shell hits 2
CA Myoko, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
CA Haguro, Shell hits 4
CA Nachi, Shell hits 5, on fire
CA Mogami
CA Kumano, Shell hits 7
DD Hatsuzuki, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Wakazuki, Shell hits 9, heavy fires
DD Samidare, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Hatsushima, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA San Francisco, Shell hits 27, and is sunk
CL Raleigh, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Detroit, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
DD Coghlan, Shell hits 4
DD Gansevoort, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Thompson, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Mustin, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Phelps, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Balch
DD Hull, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
DD Dale, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Monaghan, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kane, Shell hits 3, on fire
DM Pruitt, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CA San Francisco at 6,000 yards
CA San Francisco engages CA Kumano at 6,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Raleigh at 6,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CA San Francisco at 6,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Monaghan at 6,000 yards
CA San Francisco engages DD Hatsushima at 6,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Balch at 6,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Balch at 6,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Wakazuki at 6,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Gansevoort at 6,000 yards
CA Myoko engages DM Pruitt at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CA San Francisco at 4,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Detroit at 4,000 yards
CL Raleigh engages CA Mogami at 4,000 yards
DD Kane engages DD Wakazuki at 4,000 yards
CA Haguro engages CL Raleigh at 4,000 yards
DD Dale engages DD Hatsushima at 4,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Hatsushima at 4,000 yards
DD Dale engages DD Samidare at 4,000 yards
DD Dale sunk by DD Hatsuzuki at 4,000 yards
DD Thompson engages DD Wakazuki at 4,000 yards
DD Gansevoort engages DD Samidare at 4,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Coghlan at 4,000 yards
DM Pruitt sunk by CA Kumano at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CA San Francisco at 8,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Raleigh at 8,000 yards
DD Kane engages DD Hatsushima at 8,000 yards
CL Raleigh engages CA Haguro at 8,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Balch at 8,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Phelps at 8,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Wakazuki at 8,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Thompson at 8,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Coghlan at 8,000 yards
CA San Francisco engages CA Myoko at 8,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Kumano at 8,000 yards
CL Raleigh engages CA Kumano at 8,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Kane at 8,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Monaghan at 8,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA San Francisco at 8,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Balch at 8,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Gansevoort at 8,000 yards
DD Phelps engages DD Wakazuki at 8,000 yards
DD Coghlan engages DD Samidare at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CA San Francisco at 6,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Detroit at 6,000 yards
CA Mogami engages CA San Francisco at 6,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Kane at 6,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Haguro at 6,000 yards
CA Myoko engages DD Hull at 6,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Balch at 6,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Phelps at 6,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Mustin at 6,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Thompson at 6,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Gansevoort at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA San Francisco at 4,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Raleigh at 4,000 yards
CA Mogami engages CL Raleigh at 4,000 yards
CA Nachi engages DD Kane at 4,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Haguro at 4,000 yards
DD Hull engages DD Samidare at 4,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Balch at 4,000 yards
DD Phelps engages DD Hatsushima at 4,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Mustin at 4,000 yards
DD Thompson engages DD Samidare at 4,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Gansevoort at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Mogami at 3,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Kane at 3,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Haguro at 3,000 yards
CA Myoko engages CA San Francisco at 3,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Hull at 3,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Phelps at 3,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Wakazuki at 3,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Thompson at 3,000 yards
DD Gansevoort engages DD Hatsushima at 3,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Coghlan at 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
CA San Francisco sunk by CA Kumano at 2,000 yards
CL Raleigh sunk by CA Kumano at 2,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Kane at 2,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Monaghan at 2,000 yards
DD Hull sunk by CA Myoko at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Gansevoort at 2,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Mustin at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Thompson at 2,000 yards
DD Coghlan engages DD Hatsuzuki at 2,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CL Detroit at 2,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Detroit at 2,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Monaghan at 2,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Nachi at 2,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Phelps at 2,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Hatsushima at 2,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Thompson at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Monaghan at 2,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Wakazuki at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
BB Musashi engages DD Monaghan at 5,000 yards
CA Kumano engages CL Detroit at 5,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Hatsuzuki at 5,000 yards
CA Nachi engages CL Detroit at 5,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Phelps at 5,000 yards
CL Detroit engages CA Myoko at 5,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Thompson at 5,000 yards
DD Gansevoort engages DD Hatsuzuki at 5,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Coghlan at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
BB Musashi engages CL Detroit at 7,000 yards
CL Detroit sunk by CA Kumano at 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Phelps at 7,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Thompson at 7,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Gansevoort at 7,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Monaghan at 7,000 yards
Tanaka, R. orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 10,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Kane at 10,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Gansevoort at 10,000 yards
CA Mogami engages DD Monaghan at 10,000 yards
CA Nachi engages DD Balch at 10,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Mustin at 10,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Thompson at 10,000 yards
DD Hatsushima engages DD Coghlan at 10,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Coghlan at 10,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Mustin at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CA Mogami engages DD Thompson at 12,000 yards
DD Phelps engages DD Hatsushima at 12,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Hatsuzuki at 12,000 yards
DD Phelps sunk by CA Myoko at 12,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Gansevoort at 12,000 yards
DD Wakazuki engages DD Coghlan at 12,000 yards
DD Monaghan engages DD Wakazuki at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 14,000 yards
BB Musashi engages DD Coghlan at 14,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Monaghan at 14,000 yards
DD Balch engages DD Wakazuki at 14,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Mustin at 14,000 yards
DD Thompson engages DD Samidare at 14,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Gansevoort at 14,000 yards
DD Coghlan engages DD Hatsushima at 14,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Thompson at 14,000 yards
DD Balch engages DD Hatsuzuki at 14,000 yards
Range increases to 16,000 yards
BB Musashi engages DD Monaghan at 16,000 yards
CA Kumano engages DD Kane at 16,000 yards
DD Mustin engages DD Hatsuzuki at 16,000 yards
DD Thompson engages DD Wakazuki at 16,000 yards
CA Myoko engages DD Gansevoort at 16,000 yards
DD Coghlan engages DD Samidare at 16,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Kane at 16,000 yards
DD Hatsuzuki engages DD Kane at 16,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Day 41 - Battle for Adak part 4

But this wasn't the end of the day for Americans. While destroyer crews were trying to repair the critical damage, save the wounded and rescue those who were hanging for their lives in the cold waters of Bering Sea, they heard a roaring sound of plane engines from above. While surface forces were trading blows, Japanese carriers turned into the wind and started to launch their aircraft. And while a few planes from Adak tried to intercept the attack, most of the strike planes easily went through and dashed down form the sky on the burning vessels.
It was hell of an hour for the ships of the US Navy. They were moving and turning as fast as possible, and most of them managed to avoid being hit. Of the fifty planes only one found the target and DD Gansevoort wend down in flames.
But this first attack drew the attention of the destroyer crews, and a small package of nine torpedo bombers that came from the different angle, used this for their advantage. Another two torpedoes found their targets, with one destroyer sunk and other crippled.
Some planes that were fit to fly from the morning strike flew again later in the afternoon, but to no result.

In the aftermath of the battle, destroyers Hatsuzuki and Hatsushima sunk. Nachi and Myoko, on fire and with no ammunition were accompanied by even more damaged Wakazuki and Samidare and send to Attu to pump out water. Musashi and other three cruisers were moving fifty miles behind, without any anti-submarine coverage. Carrier group was also movet to the west, to cover their retreat.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Adak Island at 162,52

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
A6M3a Zero x 10
B5N2 Kate x 23
D3A2 Val x 26

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 8
P-38G Lightning x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Gansevoort, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Balch
DD Kane, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
13 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
15 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
No.118 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Kane

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Adak Island at 162,51

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 11
B5N2 Kate x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Mustin, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Coghlan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thompson, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

Magazine explodes on DD Mustin

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Adak Island at 162,51

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
A6M3a Zero x 17
B5N2 Kate x 17
D3A2 Val x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thompson
DD Coghlan, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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RE: The Thousand Mile War: Ardi (J) vs mind_messing (A) - 5/20/2019 9:47:50 PM

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Day 42

Balch, the only DD left unscratched from the battle went into pursue, knowing that Japanese ships are out of ammo. His chase was successfull. Japs barely answered on his fire. Balch damaged Muoko and both DDs. Samidare sunk later at night.
Carriers withdrew to the west of Kiska and I tried ground bombing of the Allid troops there in desperate attempt to prevent inevitable fall of the island.
Allies at Kiska and Japanese at Attu made sucessfull deliberate attacks.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 26, 43
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Adak Island at 160,51, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Shell hits 9
CA Nachi
DD Wakazuki, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Samidare, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Balch

Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 39% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 39% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
DD Balch engages DD Samidare at 2,000 yards
CA Nachi engages DD Balch at 2,000 yards
CA Myoko engages DD Balch at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Balch at 2,000 yards
DD Balch engages DD Wakazuki at 2,000 yards
DD Balch engages DD Wakazuki at 2,000 yards
Tiemroth, H. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Balch at 3,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Balch at 3,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Morning Air attack on 18th Combat Engineer Regiment, at 157,51 (Kiska Island)

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
A6M3a Zero x 18
B5N2 Kate x 42
D3A2 Val x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 7th Div Prov Battalion ...
Also attacking 32nd USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Div Prov Battalion ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Div Prov Battalion ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Div Prov Battalion ...
Also attacking 32nd USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Div Prov Battalion ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 7th Div Prov Battalion ...

Day 43

Again tried bombing. Damaged ships made it to Attu, and those remained intact joined carrier group. Battle on the island continued.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 27, 43
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Afternoon Air attack on 32nd USA Regiment, at 157,51 (Kiska Island)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
A6M3a Zero x 19
B5N2 Kate x 43
D3A2 Val x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 17th USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 32nd USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 17th USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 32nd USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 17th USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 32nd USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 17th USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 32nd USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 17th USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 18th Combat Engineer Regiment ...
Also attacking 32nd USA Regiment ...
Also attacking 4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 17th USA Regiment ...

Day 44-45

Uneventful. Carriers moved closer to Attu to cover resupply convoy. On Attu Allied unints are close to surrender, same for Japs on Kiska.

Day 46

Busy day in the air. I tested defences on Adak again, not very favourably. On the other hand, my dive bomber managed to spot two DDs, one to the north, one to the south, presumably trying to sneak by and intercept resupply convoys. Both got heavily damaged.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 30, 43
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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 20
P-38G Lightning x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
No.118 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 17
P-38G Lightning x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
No.118 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 11650 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 12
P-38G Lightning x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
No.118 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 156,45

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
D3A2 Val x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Thompson, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Massive explosion on DD Thompson

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Morning Air attack on Adak Island , at 162,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 8
P-38G Lightning x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 2 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
No.118 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
18th FS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
54th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
344th FS with P-40E Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
No.111 Sqd RCAF with Kittyhawk III (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 2000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
Raid is overhead

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Attu Island at 153,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
D3A2 Val x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Morris, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x D3A2 Val bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Morris

Day 47

Kiska garrison surrendered as well as American forces on Attu. No sign of American fleet, only subs continue to prowl in waters near Attu.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 31, 43
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Morning Air attack on Maizuru 3rd SNLF, at 157,51 (Kiska Island)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking Kiska Air Defense AA Division ...
Also attacking Maizuru 3rd SNLF ...

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Ground combat at Attu Island (153,49)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9410 troops, 119 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 290

Defending force 2471 troops, 34 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Japanese adjusted assault: 275

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 275 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2471 casualties reported
Squads: 59 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 276 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 34 (34 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
1st Engineer Coy
301st Ind.Infantry Battalion
Det/45th Tank Regiment
43rd Engineer Battalion
96th Ind.Mixed Brigade
North Chichijima Naval Guard Unit
Northern Army
15th/16th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Fleet
13th Ind.AA Gun Coy
Attu Air Defense AA Division
5th JNAF AF Unit
27th Air Flotilla
35th RF Gun Battalion
North Chichijima CD Coastal Gun Battalion
12th Naval Construction Battalion
38th Const Coy
57th JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
159th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
184th USA Regiment

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Ground combat at Kiska Island (157,51)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7437 troops, 123 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 190

Defending force 2606 troops, 117 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied adjusted assault: 134

Japanese adjusted defense: 61

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Kiska Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 49 (42 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
18th Combat Engineer Regiment
4th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
32nd USA Regiment
17th USA Regiment
7th Div Prov Battalion
81st Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion
8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
4th Engineer Coy
Kiska Air Defense AA Division
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
51st JNAF AF Unit

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Kiska Air Defense AA Division Wiped Out at Kiska Island by attrition!!!

4th Engineer Coy Wiped Out at Kiska Island by attrition!!!

Maizuru 3rd SNLF Wiped Out at Kiska Island by attrition!!!

303rd Ind.Infantry Battalion Wiped Out at Kiska Island by attrition!!!

8th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment Wiped Out at Kiska Island by attrition!!!

51st JNAF AF Unit Wiped Out at Kiska Island by attrition!!!

Sneaky destroyers.

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