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Anti-aircraft weapons - 10/28/2019 5:29:40 PM   
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Not counting vehicle AAMG (DShk, NSVT) these were main anti-aircraft weapons in Czechoslovak army from 1960s to 1990s:

12.7mm quad barrel AAMG vz. 53
- based on licence build DShk with four barrels
- disappeared from stocks in 1970s

30mm AAG vz. 53
- towed version
- in service up to 1990s

PLDvK-53/59
- self-propelled variant of 30mm vz. 53
- in service to early 2000s
- there are variants 53/59B (new radio station) and 53/59M (new sight)

57mm S-60
- delivered from the USSR during 1950s
- used with radar
- in service to 1990s

57mm AAG vz. CS
- domestic gun with different ammo from S-60
- used with domestic radar
- in service from second half of 1950s to 1990s (mostly stored for mobilization anti-aircraft regiments)

85mm AAG vz. 44S
- licence production of soviet KS-1 (M1944) gun
- in service from 1950s to 1970s
- deployed with state air defence (to early 1960s) and ground forces (to 1970s)

130mm KS-30
- soviet delivered
- only one battery with 8 guns, radar supported
- in service from 1950s to probably 1969
- originally deployed with state air defence (to early 1960s) then handed over to ground forces

9K32M Strela-2M (SA-7) with 9M32M missiles
- licence production
- in service probably from 1978
- earlier variant SA-7A was probably obtained in 1973 but not deployed to service

9K31M Strela-1M (SA-9) with 9M31M missiles
- just four vehicles bought in 1978
- originally deployed as training unit but in 1984 were transferred to 3rd MRR (1st TD)
- in service to 1990s

9K35M Strela-10M (SA-13) with 9M37M missiles
- delivered from the USSR
- in service from 1983

2K12 Kub (SA-6)
- in service from 1975
- delivered variants were 2K12M, 2K12M1 and 2K12M3 with older variants modernized to newer standard during service
- available missiles were 3M9M, 3M9ME and 3M9M3E
- deployed in army's and divisional SAM regiments

9K33 Osa (SA-8)
- originally one battery of 9K33M2 Osa-AK delivered in 1980 and used as training unit (9M33M2 missiles)
- in 1984 was equipped one regiment with 9K33M3 Osa-AKM (9M33M3 missiles)

2K11 Krug (SA-4)
- the first delivery in 1974 (training battery and two SAM battalions), another battalion delivered in 1976
- one training battery with 2K11A Krug-A (possibly with 3M8M1 missiles)
- further variants were 2K11M Krug-M and 2K11M1 Krug-M1 with 3M8M2 and 3M8M3 missiles

Currently I see in game that SA-8 is there but SA-6 is not. I think they both should not be included in the game now. Although they were formally deployed as divisional SAMs, operationally they would be controlled by air defence command. Such system has different dynamics for which Armored Brigade is not really suitable.

Just for completion I will add that state air defence had these SAMs in inventory: SA-2, SA-3, SA-5 and SA-10.



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RE: Anti-aircraft weapons - 10/30/2019 12:28:16 AM   
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When you mention 30mm AAG vz. 53, do you mean ZK.453 towed anti-aircraft system or dismounted turret from PLDvK vz. 53/59?

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RE: Anti-aircraft weapons - 10/30/2019 9:44:59 PM   
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I mean ZK 453 which military name is 30mm PLDvK vz. 53. It was mostly stored after 1970s but still counted with till 1990s.

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RE: Anti-aircraft weapons - 10/30/2019 10:29:35 PM   
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Thanks!

Also, I am not so inclined to introduce 57mm AAGs since there is already 30mm performing the similar role better in-game. 57mm would need to rely on the barrage of the whole battery directed by radar due to the low rate-of-fire.

As for 9K33 Osa, it was introduced as per players request and it is and probably will remain the largest AA vehicle in the game.

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RE: Anti-aircraft weapons - 10/31/2019 11:09:31 PM   
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Thanks for explanation.

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