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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/5/2020 7:17:46 PM

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Probably all of the reef/island SAM sites, will adjust.

It was, looks like the PLAAF/PLAN radars weren't operative except under attack.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 4.... - 1/6/2020 6:07:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: gosnold

I have downloaded version 5.0 and I have this issue when loading the scenario:

Then loading does not complete

Thanks, there was a wider issue with loading some scenario in European-locale systems. Fixed for the next public update.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 4.... - 1/6/2020 10:07:07 PM

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Thank you, as I didn't have an answer for it!

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 4.... - 1/8/2020 10:30:47 PM

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even though i am only 3 hours(=2-3 days for me) in game time... i believe this is my favorite south china sea scenario....

the only thing so far i am not fond of is the protracted ready times for strikers... i have all my f-18s strikers readying to do sead/dead and soft targets before tlam and bomber attacks as i hate wasting good bullets... but i have about 4 more hours to wait....
until thin i will continue to do counter air/defensive air and raids on high value units....
now i play in editor mode so if i get antsy i can up my ready times.. but guys of higher moral character playing normal might have to suffer a lot...

to be honest i dont know why everybody doesnt play in editor mode.... its just so wonderful....

well... im still doing this... will write more latter....

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 4.... - 1/9/2020 4:51:04 AM

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even though i am only 3 hours(=2-3 days for me) in game time... i believe this is my favorite south china sea scenario....

Thank you, it's been a lot of work, so I appreciate that!

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the only thing so far i am not fond of is the protracted ready times for strikers... i have all my f-18s strikers readying to do sead/dead and soft targets before tlam and bomber attacks as i hate wasting good bullets... but i have about 4 more hours to wait....
until thin i will continue to do counter air/defensive air and raids on high value units....
now i play in editor mode so if i get antsy i can up my ready times.. but guys of higher moral character playing normal might have to suffer a lot...

That's funny!

But I've struggled with this issue. On one hand I want to give the players the opportunity to choose their loadouts, but the ready time for the Andersen AFB bombers is just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long. I'm patient enough to nibble at the PLA while the bombers are readied, but I also see the other side of the argument that the aircraft would be readied at the start of the operation. One option would be to load out the Bombers in advance so that the 4 to 6 hour loadouts for the multirole aircraft on the CV and Philippines would be the dominant wait time. Problem is I might choose JASSMs for the bombers and then have that CVBG pop up on a prefect position for LSARMs and have someone complain that they had to wait 20 hours plus whatever ready time is wasted to change out the loadouts on some B-1Bs. Then there are the EMP JASSMs and someone may want to play with them and complain they have to wait until day two when they would have been loaded out on day one! Maybe I should add 4 B-1Bs and load them out with two (2) LRASMs, and two of the EMP loadouts and then the other 8 with JASSM, but does they tip things too much in favor of the Allies? Or just leave it at 8 with just 4 loaded with JASSMs and the other four with the LRASMs and EMP JASSMs? Any way I do it I'm certain someone will be unhappy.

May be a mute question, as I'm sure most folks are just going to go into the editor and set up the load outs the way they want from the start in any case, but the newbies might not.

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to be honest i dont know why everybody doesnt play in editor mode.... its just so wonderful....

It does give one many more options, that's for sure!

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/11/2020 3:37:34 PM

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My kind of mission !

Just immediate feedback whilst I'm familiarising and seting up missions etc. You have CSG9's CAP and ASW mission box linked to the same Reference points. I'd suggest seperating them. I don't know about anyone else, but I always push my CAPs way out infront of the Fleet and would definitely not link the points against any other missions.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/11/2020 4:01:49 PM

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Just immediate feedback whilst I'm familiarising and seting up missions etc. You have CSG9's CAP and ASW mission box linked to the same Reference points. I'd suggest seperating them. I don't know about anyone else, but I always push my CAPs way out infront of the Fleet and would definitely not link the points against any other missions.

Yeah, I got a little lazy there. Will do, good suggestion and I knew I should have done better there!

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/11/2020 6:43:53 PM

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You have CSG9's CAP and ASW mission box linked to the same Reference points. I'd suggest seperating them.

Done.

Thanks for the suggestion, like I said I knew I should have, but set those up at a time I was making a lot of changes and took the easy way out. Both now have a Patrol and Prosecution zone that players can play with and adjust to their liking.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/13/2020 5:36:14 AM

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"One option would be to load out the Bombers in advance so that the 4 to 6 hour loadouts for the multirole aircraft on the CV and Philippines would be the dominant wait time. Problem is I might choose JASSMs for the bombers and then have that CVBG pop up on a prefect position for LSARMs and have someone complain that they had to wait 20 hours plus whatever ready time is wasted to change out the loadouts on some B-1Bs. Then there are the EMP JASSMs and someone may want to play with them and complain they have to wait until day two when they would have been loaded out on day one! Maybe I should add 4 B-1Bs and load them out with two (2) LRASMs, and two of the EMP loadouts and then the other 8 with JASSM, but does they tip things too much in favor of the Allies? Or just leave it at 8 with just 4 loaded with JASSMs and the other four with the LRASMs and EMP JASSMs? Any way I do it I'm certain someone will be unhappy."

i agree it is a conundrum... but you could have some logical loadouts readying at a reduced time.. and let them chose the others... you have graciously given us lots of cools toys to play with here....

i suspect you could cut your bombers in half... and with them and all the tlams blue still has tremendous offensive power....
since there is an abundance of heavy precision munitions.. i swaped some tlams for aaw bullets.. and i readied my carrier based strikers (excluding ones for aaw) and the aussies for sead/dead and soft targets... my thinking is to use them to reduce red aids for the tlams and bombers....
in editor i loaded the bombers for night time operations... ready at around 6pm local time... i cant wait to see what 2 b1s with lrasms backed with a bunch of maldjs is gonna do to the red surface group.... but first the reefs.... im 7 hours game time and my strikers are about ready to go...

i believe i have air dominance in the south and west... i have destroyed over 40 red aircraft at better than 10 to 1 kill ratio... actually i have achieved minor victory just with the air battle to date...

this may be presumptuous as i am just starting my strikes.. i believe you could reduce some blue air assets...
half your bombers..
have 12 operational f-15s..
less 4 tankers..
fewer e-3s but with shorter ready times...

the Chinese could be more aggressive...
i havent come across any chinese subs... but i cant remember what version im playing... i think a modified version 8...

still having ball.... will write again soon....

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/13/2020 11:39:29 AM

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I'm about 12-15 Real-Time hours in and enjoying the scenario....

I've lost a couple of F15's an F35 and a Growler to the pesky J-20's...

Apart from that it's been plain sailing. I don't want to encourage you to make it too hard, but I noticed a couple of things. Often OPFOR missiles seem to be set to launch at max range. I've been able to kite away from most engagements successfully. The Mighty Dragon sneaking up on me being the only instances where I'm seemingly powerless to defend myself in time.

The Chinese SAG is poorly defended. It seems to only have minimal SAM defense and just one of my F-15's was able to duck dodge and dive it to exhaustion - it also seems to move very slowly. Depletes it's small defensive aircraft screen quite quickly by sending jets East - which are quickly dispatched. I would suggest spreading the pickets out a little to give them some better engagement window.

It's EMCON is set to stay off - which is good - for hiding itself. But it's spotted almost immediately anyway due to the close position to the E3 patrol to the East. My suggestion would be to just go hot sooner. It would be much safer for them and make it challenging to get the LCS out to its position safely.

The A-50 AEW gets picked off pretty quickly each time it goes up. Might want to layer some escorts or have it closer to static SAM emplacements.

I'm kicking myself as with so many small airfields in the North East I totally Missed all the F-22's and the P8's DOH!? could really have done with them earlier and they might have saved me some J-20 interfaces.

Anyway I've taken out all defenses on the main islands. Just loading up my second Strike to go and knock out all the ancillary buildings. Talking of which it's not 100% clear what the brief is. Smash EVERYTHING ? Or just defenses e.g. SAMS. I can see I'm getting points for taking out Barracks etc. But I normally just pound runways. Do I need to take out all the hangers too ?

Cheers for the challenge !

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/13/2020 11:39:19 PM

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Often OPFOR missiles seem to be set to launch at max range. I've been able to kite away from most engagements successfully. The Mighty Dragon sneaking up on me being the only instances where I'm seemingly powerless to defend myself in time.

That has been adjusted since 8.0

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The Chinese SAG is poorly defended. It seems to only have minimal SAM defense and just one of my F-15's was able to duck dodge and dive it to exhaustion - it also seems to move very slowly. Depletes it's small defensive aircraft screen quite quickly by sending jets East - which are quickly dispatched. I would suggest spreading the pickets out a little to give them some better engagement window.

The CVBG or the smaller SAG, maybe the smaller SAG needs to be beefed up?

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It's EMCON is set to stay off - which is good - for hiding itself. But it's spotted almost immediately anyway due to the close position to the E3 patrol to the East. My suggestion would be to just go hot sooner. It would be much safer for them and make it challenging to get the LCS out to its position safely.

I think we are talking about the stationary garrison coast guard cutter at Scarborough Shoals? Or the Several Vessel SAG?

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The A-50 AEW gets picked off pretty quickly each time it goes up. Might want to layer some escorts or have it closer to static SAM emplacements.

They are supposed to have escorts but they don't seem to react!

Very Frustrating! Going to play with them again!

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Anyway I've taken out all defenses on the main islands. Just loading up my second Strike to go and knock out all the ancillary buildings. Talking of which it's not 100% clear what the brief is. Smash EVERYTHING ? Or just defenses e.g. SAMS. I can see I'm getting points for taking out Barracks etc. But I normally just pound runways. Do I need to take out all the hangers too ?

Smash everything and anything you can in advance of the amphibs! Runways are worth more points then access points, which are worth more points than the Tarmac/Hangers, which are worth more than the Barracks, etc. So your strategy is still rewarded.

Thinking about making it a 1 1/2 day or 2 day scenario, what are your thoughts on that?

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/14/2020 1:07:56 AM

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Just adjusted the PRC teleport areas and the mission patrol/prosecution areas. Think the Spratleys should be better contested by the PRC now.

Took the time down to 2 days, so that should add to the urgency.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/15/2020 1:33:56 PM

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Hi Mate. Yeah the PRC Carrier group. I haven't had much interaction with the other unit yet - it seems a long way off to the west so I've just left it alone.

Here's a weird one.... Doing my own thing, minding my own business bombing the islands and get a VAMPIRE alert out of nowhere... wtf ? I follow the link and it's that Same CVBG just south and west of the contested zone I have to get my LCS into. They've only gone and started launching missiles at each other !?

Anyone else see this? Two escort ships lost in the first wave, then about an hour later it happens again and only the carrier and two escorts remain.... Could it be Jamming ???? Seemed to occur when I had the F-22's flying past west on their way to bomb the J-20 airbase.... Very strange

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/17/2020 1:00:59 AM

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well..... im back.... 7 plus hours local time into the game and just completed very successful initial strikes on cuarteron fiery cross and mischief reefs... targeting ads and soft targets.... however it very complicated and i had to micro manage the whole deal.. as i had forgotten i had put land attack on hold at the beginning of the scenario days ago to prevent everyone from launching the whole shebang when i pushed the starter button...

now for the tlam strikes... and move north and start ill working on their naval assets... but its really all over but the doing... i have all ready have achieved major victory...

PRC LOSSES:
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1x Z-9C Dauphin 2
8x J-10C Vigorous Dragon
15x J-20 Mighty Dragon
1x Type 818 [China Coast Guard 46301]
3x JD-16 Flying Shark [Su-30MKK Copy]
7x H-6G Badger [H-6M]
5x HY-6D Badger [H-6DU]
13x H-6J Badger
3x Y-8Q Cub [GX6]
3x J-11 Flanker B [Su-27SK]
8x J-15 Flying Shark [Su-33 Copy]
1x Z-9D Dauphin 2
1x Z-18YJ Super Frelon [Black Bat]
1x KJ-2000 Mainring [A-50]
1x Radar (China JY-26)
1x Vehicle (HQ-16 FCR)
3x Radar (China Type 120 [JY-29/LSS-1 Mod])
5x Vehicle (China HT-233 [HQ-9])
10x 30mm China LD-2000 [Type 730]
8x ZTD 05 Amphibious Tank
2x Radar (Generic Air Traffic Control)
40x HQ-9A TEL
20x ZBD-05 [HJ-73C ATGM] IFV
5x Vehicle (China YLC-2V)
4x YJ-12 Triple
2x Radar (China YLC-2V)
1x Vehicle (China Type 352 Square Tie)
2x Infantry Section [7.62mm MG/Unguided Infantry Anti Tank Weapon]
6x 122mm/38 PLZ-07
1x Building (Barracks)
1x Diesel (750k Liter Tank)
1x BZK-005 Sea Eagle UAV

SIDE: US-Allies
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LOSSES:
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2x F/A-18F Super Hornet
1x F-15C Eagle
1x F-35A Lightning II
1x EA-18G Growler
1x P-8A Poseidon [LSRS]

you..."just adjusted the PRC teleport areas and the mission patrol/prosecution areas. Think the Spratleys should be better contested by the PRC now.

Took the time down to 2 days, so that should add to the urgency."

i agree.... red should be more aggressive... they could try to strike blu bases... their tanker trks should be further west.... i dont know what all those bombers are doing driving around....

really like this thing and cant wait to play the finished scenario....

thank you.... will write again soon....

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/17/2020 11:16:32 AM

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Hi Mate. Yeah the PRC Carrier group. I haven't had much interaction with the other unit yet - it seems a long way off to the west so I've just left it alone.

Here's a weird one.... Doing my own thing, minding my own business bombing the islands and get a VAMPIRE alert out of nowhere... wtf ? I follow the link and it's that Same CVBG just south and west of the contested zone I have to get my LCS into. They've only gone and started launching missiles at each other !?

Anyone else see this? Two escort ships lost in the first wave, then about an hour later it happens again and only the carrier and two escorts remain.... Could it be Jamming ???? Seemed to occur when I had the F-22's flying past west on their way to bomb the J-20 airbase.... Very strange

Yikes! I couldn't begin to guess! So as we're "At War" I set the Groups to weapons free but they shouldn't be shooting their own ships, if I'm understanding your post correctly. Now I have had the Liaoning CVBG pop of Vampires at CSG 9 (at extreme range, I tweaked down) but this behavior sounds more like a bug, than a scenario. That said, I tweaked the CVBG and SAG teleport areas the other day so they won't be nearly as close to the Scarborough Shoal. I also adjusted the air mission zones which should help with some of the issues brought up earlier.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/17/2020 11:22:12 AM

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i dont know what all those bombers are doing driving around..

Yeah been thinking on that one. They are a artifact of when there were several more USN/Allies surface vessels and the hope was as an ASuW patrol they would have the opportunity to engage them. Now they are just a meaningless maritime patrol at best and large slow targets in reality. Going to work on that aspect.

You got 15 J-20s! Good shooting Tex!

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/17/2020 4:33:57 PM

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I have the explanation as to why the PLAN ships are firing on each other! The A/I is seeing the two ship SAg as Unknown as opposed to Friendly and the Doctrine was set to weapons free for any unknown vessels! Looks like a bug!

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/17/2020 8:34:35 PM

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there a couple of reasons for my success against plan fighters...
i set my aaw missions with smallish long narrow patrol area at right angle to the probability of threat.. with a largish prosecution areas..
i send my aaw fighters up as single units.... in that way in responding to intruders they have better separation and multiple attack axis...
the problem is when you have them in groups.. when there is incoming they all go heads down to the deck.. and are greatly disadvantaged... often with no chance to counter...

with the mix of nice assets you have given us in this scenario it allows many options in their mix and use...
i often use a f-35 as a picket in emcon b in front of my aaw patrol area.... i have noticed they usually will detect j-15s first...
my aaw patrols are traps.... with one or two stealth fighters out front and 4th gen fighters energized in the patrol area... it sucks red right in...
also i believe our aesa radar is really good in this game in aiding in getting the first shot off.. however this this is speculative on my part...

i would encourage you to try sending ai units up singly with aaw patrols... with more units (4+) inspecting and/or prosecuting intruders...
with more separation and often attacking on multiple axis confounding the player.. they become more challenging as opponents......
they will also use all aircraft slated to the mission this way... i would use single aircraft for escort missions also...

i am contemplating trying my strike groups with formation editor having different configurations and more separation... i suspect there may be benefits although it would be time intensive in large strike missions....

have a lovely day... will write again soon....

i havent seen any plan friendly fire myself at this time...

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/19/2020 3:34:19 PM

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I'm still playing... heh..

Does anyone else get strange jumping around OpFor satellites. It's obvious if you zoom out, If you swap sides in the Editor you can also see that they're giving some very strange readings. Placing contacts 1000's of miles away from the actual location.

On my own side. I'm having some very strange jumping around ships too. My BluFor satellites giving me quite significant levels of ambiguity. Even when I have a very good fix on the actual position. (it's that pesky 2 ship SAG BTW).

Is anyone else experiencing satellite weirdness?

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 7.... - 1/19/2020 10:18:29 PM

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Does anyone else get strange jumping around OpFor satellites. It's obvious if you zoom out, If you swap sides in the Editor you can also see that they're giving some very strange readings. Placing contacts 1000's of miles away from the actual location.
YES....

On my own side. I'm having some very strange jumping around ships too.
JAMMING AND RE-ACQUISITION OF TARGET....

My BluFor satellites giving me quite significant levels of ambiguity. Even when I have a very good fix on the actual position. (it's that pesky 2 ship SAG BTW).
I BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY ARE OFTEN AMBIGUOUS.. NOT PROVIDING TARGETABLE INFORMATION..EFFECTED BY WEATHER AND OTHER CONDITIONS... HIGHER RESOLUTION FIXES ARE PROBABLY FROM OTHER SENSORS... OR COMBINED INFORMATION....

Is anyone else experiencing satellite weirdness?
YES....

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 1/20/2020 8:20:37 PM

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I think from the sheer size of this scenario stresses the CMO system, thus the satellite issues and the crazy SAG issues. Not anything I can do about either.

I did make a bunch of adjustments to try to make the PRC more competitive, but think I'm come up against the system. I think these are my last changes. Maybe I will come back to it but after almost two months of play testing I think this is about as good as it is going to get.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 1/20/2020 8:32:49 PM

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I thought it might be the scenario. But honestly is it really that big unit count wise ? I can think of a few Northern Fury campaigns with more units Surely.

EDIT TO ADD: I checked and the file size is in the top 5 of the files I have to hand (community pack). Perhaps something else has snuck in there. Much Lua ? Perhaps it is simply the no of static items?

Perhaps reduce the the number of Blufor statics. E.g. the airports to the NE. They could all be 1 static site with a couple of runways, associated access points and magazines, rather than so many smaller sites ? Do you need all the other Blufor too. Perhaps consolidate. Potentially reduce OPFOR Ground units. They have nothing to fight anyway, so are kinda just targets for bombers

Are the Satellites adding any benefit. I'm not aware of any specific intel they have provided. In fact so far my experience is that they are causing issues with known contacts.

I also think the current beta is in someway buggy. I have other oddities, missiles launching well outside of Doctrine range (AMRAAMs and ARMS etc) So I would suggest there is some weird bugs that together are being exposed

Having said all this it's kept me well occupied for several 10's of hours.... so can't be a bad scenario :-)

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 1/20/2020 11:34:15 PM

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Having said all this it's kept me well occupied for several 10's of hours.... so can't be a bad scenario :-)

I had typed up a point for point response for all of your points (some agreeing some not), and lost it! Bottom line is I tweaked it a bit more to make the PLAAF more competitive over the Spratlys, tweaked the Maritime Patrol missions so they try to strike CSG 9 and the airports over the Philippines are based off of single unit airports, so should not be them. The PLA Ground units are there to be targets, remember the mission is to soften up the "Great Wall of Sand" for a follow up amphibious assault about a week later.

Bottom line is thanks for your help and comments, but I'm ready to move on. I may tweak this one later on, but for now I'm going to call it done. No scenario will ever be all things to all people, so as a designer you have to find a point to call it "done."

Absolutely no doubt all of the play testing everyone has done has made this a MUCH better scenario! THANK YOU all!

Next stop: Straits of Hormuz, 2020! (and no it won't be small, I can't do it! I tried!)

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 1/21/2020 1:47:43 PM

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All makes sense and I feel your pain on losing a post. Very frustrating

Can't wait for the Hormuz mission.... will definitely be ready when you are :-=)

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 1/21/2020 9:38:33 PM

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well... i can honestly say... i love this scenario... and i thank you.... cant wait to download this last version....

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 2/8/2020 9:56:45 PM

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serjames, So don't have any of the chrome on it, but I have the forces and A/I missions set. One thing I did is the Forces have "Damage" to their vessels to simulate the breakdowns and maintenance that is occurring when a conflict suddenly breaks out. Let's face it which vessel deployed for six months has 100% of their systems working! Want a look?

< Message edited by BeirutDude -- 2/8/2020 10:09:07 PM >

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 2/10/2020 3:16:19 PM

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Sure.. Happy to give it a crack :-)

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 2/12/2020 11:08:02 PM

BeirutDude

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Actually I think it is ready for general play test.

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 2/13/2020 3:07:35 PM

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bring it on..... :-)

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RE: CMO: Fiery Cross Reef, 2021 updated to Play test 8.... - 2/13/2020 9:53:16 PM

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