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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/12/2020 8:38:14 PM   
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This is the same area after the German turn.

Using their last reserves, the Germans were able to cut off the Russians at the base and then force the surrender of the rest. All other breakthroughs were also sealed.

The irony of the situation is that we caused more losses to the Russians (200+) during this defensive action than in any of the previous attacking turns.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/12/2020 9:24:46 PM   
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You need to look at Stavka. More political comissars were sent to the front after the failed paradrop.

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/13/2020 8:30:02 PM   
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Your staff must not be serving you well if you have to 'remember correctly.' Too much schnapps at OKW?

You need to look at Stavka. More political comissars were sent to the front after the failed paradrop.


Schnapps - a time honored source of encouragement in all armies. The situation warrants it.....

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/13/2020 8:35:22 PM   
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The Allied build up in North Africa. More than necessary to conquer Algeria for sure. Where will they go next?

Algiers is still holding out for now, though. But our perimeter is shrinking.

At the East Front both sides seem too weak to attack meaningfully - but strong enough to defend. There are battles raging but the overall situation does not change much - hence no new picture.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/14/2020 8:44:31 PM   
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The Allies have partially withdrawn from Denmark. We still don't have the port of Frederickshaven, though. That means we have unitsd tied up here for more weeks when we could use them at the East Front.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/14/2020 8:48:31 PM   
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We have to fight back another Russian break through near Rzhev. You can see its initial extend from the shaded hexes. These attacks turn out to be costly for the Russians - but they apparently feel that they can afford it.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/14/2020 8:51:34 PM   
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The Allies go about their business in Algeria very methodically - the Italians all deserve medals for their extended defense of the capital. The Axis is glad to occupy such a formidable force for so long.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/14/2020 9:43:16 PM   
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The Axis is glad to occupy such a formidable force for so long.



These are merely extended training exercises.

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 1:20:54 AM   
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The Axis is glad to occupy such a formidable force for so long.



These are merely extended training exercises.


We wish the Allied soldiers a very relaxing (and extended) R&R at Algerian beaches.

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 1:25:43 AM   
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Denmark is again Allies-free. There was just a lone Canadian corps remaining that had received the unfortunate task to remain behind.

These freed up German troops are needed elsewhere urgently. Hopefully the Allies don't occupy us again somewhere unforeseen in the near future.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 1:29:01 AM   
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The Algiers perimeter is shrinking another few hexes....but it is still there.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 1:48:27 AM   
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The most shocking news however comes from the East Front where the Soviets have breached our defenses in a 2 hex wide sector in force SW of Kursk. This was aided by the huge Soviets air fleets and - presumably - "encouraged" by the many political officers that they claim to have sent to the front.

Germans troops could for the first time not cut off the base right away but managed only to restrict it to a single hex. The Russian 4-8 mech corps in the shaded hex resisted our efforts in meeting behind the Russian attackers.

We are not in the depth of winter but in summer '42. If this is a sign of what is to come then we are in deep trouble.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 5:05:20 AM   
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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 5:44:03 PM   
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Algiers has finally surrendered and with it an important VP hex. A lone Italian units fights still in the back-country but we expect contact to break off soon. So this will be likely the last transmission from Algeria for the remainder of this game.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 5:48:30 PM   
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The major Soviet summer offensive has been largely contained by now. Several Russian units have been destroyed and some are now isolated but surrounded. We will need to deal with the remaining protrusion in the front line next week.

German summary: A costly Russian enterprise. But it has taken the initiative away from the Germans and can hence be seen as a success.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/16/2020 10:01:17 PM   
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German summary: A costly Russian enterprise. But it has taken the initiative away from the Germans and can hence be seen as a success.




Stavka is fully aware that it is only July, so is not expecting the powerful buildup of German troops especially in the north to go unused. The Leningrad Front is on high alert.

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/18/2020 5:16:02 PM   
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Order is fully restored in the threatened sector and all isolated Russians did surrender. While that is good news the Germans fully realize that they are supposed to be on the offensive at this time - being "victorious" in defensive combat alone does not cut it.

But as a nice side effect - the overall strength of the Soviet army has been reduced from around 3000 to 2400 as a result of the costly break-throughs. But this figure is still 60% higher than the Germans which are at around 1500 and have to fight the western Allies as well.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/18/2020 5:23:49 PM   
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Speaking of the western Allies .... After Sicily and Denmark their latest target is Marseilles. They have defeated the Italian corps holding the city and the Axis has dispatched a group of good quality units to contain them. The railroad limits did not allow us to send more in a single week.

Marseilles is in difficult terrain to counterattack. So it is unlikely we can resolve this situation in similar fashion as before. But it goes both ways and will also hinder any Allied attacks.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/19/2020 11:24:59 PM   
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The Allies pour more troops into Marseilles. This looks serious now. German defenders move up to the front line after being railed in last turn. German HQ realizes they need yet more units to contain this landing.

At the East Front we trade one hex for another but no significant change in the overall front line during all of '42.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/21/2020 1:28:25 AM   
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More German troops arrive on the scene. We can force the surrender of a British and an American land unit since they have no retreat option in the crowded beach head. We also catch/interdict a bomber while landing/unloading in Marseilles harbor, destroying it in the process. While the Allied beach head did not really shrink much they suffered some losses at least.

The Russians on the other hand shattered a German mech. corps at the East Front - which is active but still static on the larger scale.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/23/2020 11:21:11 PM   
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The ring around the Allied beach head is complete now. The mountain to the NE of Marseilles is impassable for the troops on hand.

It will be hard to break out - but it is also hard to attack this pocket because of defensive terrain. More Axis air is on the way to help out. I hope we can also prevent the Allied from landing air in the pocket via interdiction.

The RM is cruising off the coast line and is attempting (with some success) supply interdiction. But the Italian ships are vulnerable to carrier strikes.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/24/2020 12:59:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		AXIS High Command continues to bait the Allies into unsupportable invasions, thinking that it is draining the Allies of the capability to carry out a sustained invasion. Latest example, the 1-level port north of Rome is no longer garrisoned, and there is only one Italian air unit capable of interdicting an Allied invasion there.

The bait in that instance will not be taken. No need to take it. The goal of Allied incursions along the Mediterranean coast has never been to sustain a landing. It has been to support our Soviet allies. That goal has been achieved, as 1942 has seen a complete stall of the AXIS advance in the Soviet Union.

We wonder how Italians feel about the German-driven sacrifice of Italian soil and blood, for the sole benefit of the failed German adventure in the East.

The Winter of '42? 1943? They may very well witness the withdrawal of AXIS forces from the USSR, voluntary ... or forced. And they will surely witness the sustained presence of Allied forces in the West.

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/24/2020 8:45:38 PM   
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The Axis command is very pleased to learn that Allied intelligence interprets our foolish mistakes and man-power shortage as cunning strategy .....

However, taunted by the Allies for stalling at the East Front (which is, of course true - but we don't admit to it in public) the Axis makes a late season push to take Kalinin - merely to feed our propaganda machinery. Question is if we can hold it. It seems to be a precarious position.

Our Italian Allies are of course enthused about this success and are as stable a member of our Alliance as ever.....




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/24/2020 8:55:26 PM   
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Furthermore, the Axis also exerts itself in the north were we finally succeed in undermining the Russian blocking position north of Pskov. But this comes too late in the season to have much meaning.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/24/2020 9:02:54 PM   
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The Axis has not released much information on force balances yet except earlier when we stated that we were at a 2:1 disadvantage compared to the USSR.

While we have stalled when it comes to land gain we have improved the force ratio by (mostly) trying to make high odds attacks only. Now we are at roughly a 3:2 force disadvantage which feels much better. German units are on average stronger than their Soviet counterparts - so we can live with this. I hope this ratio does not deteriorate again over the course of the coming winter.

At the Marseilles beach head the Germans get ready to counterattack but there was not too much action this week - so no picture.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/26/2020 1:22:08 AM   
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The weather is still holding up for the most part (just some rain) and German infantry managed to pocket 2 Soviet mech corps near Narva. The question is if the most exposed German blocker can hold the next turn.




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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/26/2020 1:30:49 AM   
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The Axis started their attack on the Allied beach head around Marseilles and shattered a UK corps. This constricted the Allied held area by one hex.

But we will not be able to uphold our naval blockade of the port for long in the face of strong British and US naval units present.

Unfortunately the Allies also managed (already last turn) to land some aircraft in the pocket and they also have a very strong British tank unit present. This is still very dangerous should the Allies manage to break out.







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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/26/2020 7:35:10 AM   
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The Naval blocade is not really necessary, air units can stop them swapping fresh units in and out.

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/26/2020 11:37:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very true. Except that the Axis air was not always effective at preventing units coming in.

But as Gary stated above - his aim is not really a sustained invasion - at least at this time - but to distract Axis units away from the East Front. He is successful at this obviously. And it is quite costly for the Axis to fight the Allies here. So he exchanges Axis for Allies production almost 1-1 which is good for the Allies I would say. But I cannot ignore it and give them a future foothold.

Since you mention it, I follow your game with MM also very closely even though I don't comment much. I think that you are much more experienced than I am and hence I cannot really offer much new insights. But in the game that you play as the Allies, you have managed to stop the Axis much earlier in the East. In exchange they lasted much longer in the Med. It is an interesting trade off. Looking forward to how it plays out.

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RE: Revanchism in Europe (PBEM gwgardner vs Chocolino) - 2/26/2020 11:41:06 PM   
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The Axis attackers forces one of the pocketed Soviet mech corps to surrender and we finally cross the Narva river at the Baltic coast.




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