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Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 2:47:48 PM

MrsWargamer

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Just curious, which locations of some military history significance has our membership visited?

Sadly, my list is lame.
Not including bases, which don't always count (Pearl does though for examnple).
I have seen the war museum in Ottawa (the previous one that is), Not been to the new one. Might go there while visiting family at Christmas this year.

I haven't seen much, but Central Ontario isn't exactly awash in opportunities.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 3:00:36 PM

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ooh, I've been to quite a few locations over the years, although many of them don't have anything to really see. I've found that the smaller battle sites (Custer's Last Stand, Isandwana/Roark's Drft) are usually more interesting.

Trasimene
Cannae
Adrianople
Istanbul
Austerlitz
Waterloo
Borodino
Trafalgar
Tannenburg
Leipzig
Little Bighorn
Gettysburg
Antietam
Moscow
Stalingrad
Leningrad
Kursk
Normandy
Berlin
Arnhem
Anzio
Rome
Isandwana/Roark's Drift
Desert Storm (in a tank!)

Probably some others I've forgotten...

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 3:02:59 PM

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Gettysburg
Normandy
Bastogne
Arnhem
Waterloo
Numantia
Arrancourt - TOAW scenario :) (But also site of first US casualties in WW1)
Turnham Green
Hastings
Remagen

oh, god it goes on.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 3:44:03 PM

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Wilson's Creek
Pea Ridge
Alamo

Not too many but retirement is not far off and intentions are to grow that list. I could add that I've been as close as you can get without trespassing where Ranald McKenzie slaughtered the Southern Cheyenne long herd effectively ending there resistance.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 4:14:57 PM

Titanwarrior89

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Shiloh
Gettysburg
Appmattox
Bull Run
2nd Bull Run
Five Forks
Fredricksburg
Pea Ridge
Petersburg
York Town
Pearl Harbor
Midway Island
Balls Bluff

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 4:42:13 PM

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I think the most moving I have been to are the shared WW1 cemetries in NE France and Belgium. That they mostly contain both Allied and German graves is a tribute to a determination to try and step beyond the horrors of that war.

otherwise, pretty much anywhere I go in Scotland - not many bits where we weren't having a civil war at some stage between 1000-1750. There is a battle site (Langside ... Mary Queen of Scots) less than half a mile from where I live

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 6:44:30 PM

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Gettysburg
Bull Run
Valley Forge (Lived mins from there)
Trenton
Daniel Bonne (Fort)
Charlestown

Mainly SE PA, Maryland, and VA where I lived where the Birth of the Nation of the USA and the American Civil War took place.

Josh

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 8:13:36 PM

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I want to go little big horn, any advice

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 8:19:20 PM

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I'd echo loki100's words re the WWI cemetries.

Here is a link to a thread from 2015 that gives the reason...if any explanation is required.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3866913&mpage=1&key=Ypres&

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 8:39:29 PM

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- As a child I played in the bunkers of the Atlantic Wall on the Frisian Isles during the summer holidays. The local graveyard has mixed graves of allied and German servicemen who washed up on the beach.
Here a French soldier who was killed in Dunkirk is buried on Vlieland, 300 km away, by the garrison in June, 1940.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dirk_bruin_vlieland/8707289192

- I lived for seven years in the village of Beek near Nijmegen where the 82nd Para fought during Market Garden. Older villager had witnessed the charge downhill against a garrison of local German boys. Half the village was German, now Dutch since 1945. when they surrendered one fanatical idiot drew a weapon, after which a para threw a hand grenade into the group, nasty business there.
Later more seasoned German troops counter attacked.
There are several large Allied war cemeteries in the immediate neighbourhood.

- The village is almost neighbouring the Reichswald where I have walked, but parts are still closed because of ammunition danger from the Battle of the Reichswald
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Veritable

- My city of Groningen has been seriously sieged at least a dozen times since 1150, the last serious battle here was in April 1945, it was the largest urban fight of the Canadian army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Groningen

- But the siege in 1672 is still a local holiday with carnival and fireworks. It was vital for the survival of the Dutch Republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Groningen

- 20 km East of Groningen the Dutch Revolt started in 1568 with the battle of Heiligerlee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Heiligerlee_(1568)

- 15 km West of Groningen there is the battlefield of Noordhorn where in 1581 almost 3000 English and Staten troops were killed by Spanish troops.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Noordhorn

- These fights started 14 years of devastating siege war that ended with the conquest of Groningen by the Dutch Republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Groningen_(1594)

These are the largest battles of the places where I have lived, but only a very small percentage of all the recorded fights.

Oh, I must also mention the Battle of Ane in 1227, as Groningen played an important part in that campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ane
where the finest noble knights of the Low Countries were butchered in a swamp.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/14/2019 9:50:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: demyansk

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I want to go little big horn, any advice

No real advice, other than to go...it is pretty cool. I didn't take a formal tour or anything...if I could do it over again (maybe I will someday), I would read one of the excellent books about the battle and then probably hire a tour guide that knows the battlefield.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 12:24:38 AM

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I've visited Hastings, Monte Cassino, Naseby and Lewes.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 11:56:42 AM

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Gettysburg
Chancellorsville
Fredericksburg
Princeton
Williamsburg
Yorktown
The Wilderness
Manassas
Appomattox
Harpers Ferry
Spotsylvania Court House
Petersburg
Lake George

So many more to go...

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 1:14:19 PM

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Ardennes
Normandy
Huertgen
Market-Garden
Stonne
Waterloo
Ypres
Argonne
Gettysburg
Manassas
Antietam
Chancellorsville/Wilderness
Fredericksburg
Harpers Ferry
Shenandoah Valley
Cedar Mt.
Brandy Station
Vicksburg
Boston/Concord/Lexington

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 2:41:41 PM

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Bunker Hill

USS Constitution
New Orleans (Chalmette Battlefield)

The Alamo
San Jacinto

Harper�s Ferry
Fort Sumter
Shiloh
Vicksburg
Spanish Fort
Gettysburg
Antietam
Pea Ridge
Prairie Grove
Fort Donaldson
Fort Henry
Lookout Mountain

USS Texas
USS North Carolina
USS Lexington
USS Midway

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 3:42:04 PM

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USS Constitution
USS Olympia
USS New Jersey
USS Alabama
USS Lexington
CG 62 Chancellorsville

Valley Forge
Brandywine
Paoli
Germantown
Monmouth
Trenton
Washington's Crossing

New Orleans
Fort Sumter
Charleston
Vicksburg
Gettysburg
Hanover
Antietam
Atlanta
Lookout Mountain
Savannah
Mobile Bay

Pascagoula - Ingall's Shipbuilding Yard
Aberdeen Proving Grounds / Army Museum

Quatre Bras
Waterloo
Ligny
Brussels

Antwerp
Saint-Vith
Bastogne
Ghent
Ostend
Dunkirk
Normandy
Paris
Reims
Verdun
Luxembourg
Maginot Line
Flanders - Ypres/Passchendaele

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 7:54:53 PM

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Hi ,

pre WWI
Sedan

for WWI
Vimy (very moving )
Chemin des Dames
Verdun (citadel and neighboring landscape... a very deep introspective experience)
Reims (Fort de la Pompelle)
Chateau Thierry
Hartmannswillerkopf

for WWII

Saumur (1940)
Abbeville (1640)
Normandy ( Pointe du Hoc and Colleville-sur-Mer have moved me like Verdun... )
Brittany (U boat & Todt bunker)

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 10:41:35 PM

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Visiting the Hartmannswillerkopf in 1992 was mind-blowing and changed the way that I look at the Great War on the Western Front. I got to wander around the battlefield with a local who was a retired French Army artillery officer and myself being a serving Canadian gunner at the time, found his take on the battle both intriguing and profound. The poor, long-suffering Frau stayed in the rental car and read.

Also Fort de Troyon on the Meuse and the Butte de Vauquois battlefield west of Verdun's l'Morte Homme and Cote 304.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/15/2019 11:47:38 PM

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Gettysburg
Shiloh
Fort Donalson
Mobile bay
Sabine pass
Wilson Creek
Vicksburg

the Alamo
San Jacinto

visited Fort Davis and Ship Island (Fort Massachusetts}

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/16/2019 6:07:19 AM

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Hi,

I've been very fortunate to travel with some like minded souls every two years on dedicated battlefield tours since 2013. These have been ten+ day trips with some superlative guides. For example, my first trip was to Kursk during the 70th anniversary of the battle with Valeriy Zamulin who had been the long term curator of the Kursk museum and author of a range of books on the battle including 'Demolishing the Myth: The Tank Battle at Prokhorovka'. The trip covered not just Kursk, but Belgorod, Orel, Tula and Moscow.

In 2015, we couldn't return to Russia due to the Ukraine (the team had done Stalingrad, St Petersburg & Crimea in earlier trips), so we did Market-Garden and covered all the key battles in both the lead up and beyond the airborne drops. All the usual locations (Arnhem, Nijmegen etc) but also Antwerp, Ardennes in Belgium and beyond.

in 2017 the itinerary covered Salerno, Naples, Anzio, Cassino and Rome. In September of this year (2019) we visited Greece and Crete and covered both the ancient battles at Thermopylae, Marathon and Platea as well as various actions from WW2. For example, we covered the fighting in Greece down to the Corinth Canal and beyond and nearly a week covering the German invasion of Crete. Tim Saunders who wrote 'Crete: The Airborne Invasion 1941' was our amazing guide for this leg.

Separate to the above tours, I did two weeks in 2014 in Vietnam with a number of veterans covering Hanoi, Dien Bien Phu, DMZ, Hue, Danang and Saigon. And I am very fortunate to be going to the Falkland Islands in January (2020) guided by a veteran who fought there with 3rd Para in 1982. Definitely off the beaten track!

Beyond the above, I have separately done St Petersburg, the WW1 Battlefields in Champagne (France), Normandy and where I live, Singapore & Malaysia (Malaya). I have also been in various military museums in places such as Hong Kong, Tokyo and Canberra to name a few.

Yet to do any American Civil War Battlefields being an Aussie living in Asia, but they are on the list!

David

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/16/2019 6:24:14 AM

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Oh and just to show you how 'alive' some of these battlefields are; here is a picture of shrapnel that I picked up less than 100 metres from the walls of Monte Cassino Monastery. This was after a 10 minute look...!

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/16/2019 7:21:10 AM

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Little Bighorn (1876)
Plains of Abraham (1759)

Not as impressive as some lists, but hey

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/16/2019 8:12:20 AM

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War Cemetery at Salerno.
World War II Sicily - Rome American Cemetery and Memorial at Nettuno.
War Cemetery at Anzio (the two are close, but they actually are different places).
American Cemetery at Florence.

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RE: Military history locations visited. - 12/16/2019 9:41:50 AM

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