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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 7:00:24 PM

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There was a Minnesota legislator, I think that I posted this before, who is also a doctor and he said that there is pressure to call every case CoVid-19 and every death is due to CoViD-19.

Yet that would belie Minnesota's comparatively low cases/M or deaths/M in their population, so that can't be it. I'm also assuming that there would not be many assignations of a positive case in the absence of corroborating RT-PCR positive or irrefutable clinical signs. Unlike New York and New Jersey that teetered on the precipe of a full-on hospital collapse, Minnesota was never pressed so as to take such shortcuts in diagnostics.

Minnesota has had 14.6% the number of cases we have had, but 42% of our mortality in raw numbers. Controlled for population, Cases/M for MN: 652; Texas 883. Deaths/M for MN: 49; Texas 23. So there's something else cooking here.

Cooking the books for money is not unheard of.

Cooking the numbers to justify what has been done is not unheard of either.

I also saw where Miami has had no murders in 7 weeks. Does that justify continuing the lockdown? I would think not but some people just might argue that as well.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 7:18:14 PM

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Cooking the books for money is not unheard of.

Cooking the numbers to justify what has been done is not unheard of either.

Aye. But if they're doing that, they're not doing a good job of it. With only 3,600 cases to their 'credit' (and 272 deaths) they're really not standing out from other similarly sized states-they'll have to conflate more to get noticed.

And you also are suggesting that there's not other states padding their numbers. If MN can do it, so can X state. So I'm assuming that there's not a standout level of corruption in MN. Having lived there for 14 years, I believe that to be my base case. You frozen lot are 'Minnesota nice' and can't do justice to corruption nearly as well as Illinois or Louisiana has historically done.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 7:30:20 PM

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Listening to the radio when driving, it seems that every large and medium sized company in the country, plus all car dealers and numerous others, have advertisements about how they are taking measures regarding COVID-19. So all the marketing resources necessary to produce those ads are obviously considered 'critical' in states where they are produced.

An acquaintance in Kansas is trying to get their vegetables planted, and he usually orders seeds online. The seed company is located in Michigan, and they are not allowed to ship product because of the state ordered lock down measures.

Advertising is critical but planting food is not.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

he can always order seeds from China.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 7:45:37 PM

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Listening to the radio when driving, it seems that every large and medium sized company in the country, plus all car dealers and numerous others, have advertisements about how they are taking measures regarding COVID-19. So all the marketing resources necessary to produce those ads are obviously considered 'critical' in states where they are produced.

An acquaintance in Kansas is trying to get their vegetables planted, and he usually orders seeds online. The seed company is located in Michigan, and they are not allowed to ship product because of the state ordered lock down measures.

Advertising is critical but planting food is not.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

he can always order seeds from China.

There are other seed companies out there.

But you can see where the state locking things down is interfering with interstate commerce which is a Federal responsibility.

https://www.burpee.com/homepage

https://www.gurneys.com/

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:04:43 PM

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How much do you want to bet there is some language in one the bailout bills....."...the fraction of the $608.72B Healthcare Entity Support Fund allotted to each state shall be determined by the HHS Secretary based on the fraction of officially recorded deaths attributable to COVID-19 disease as of July 1, 2020..."

Why else would anyone try to pad the numbers? In the PRC you report a number about 20% of the true number if you don't want an AK-47 round through the back of your head and your organs "donated"

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:22:49 PM

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ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:28:40 PM

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There was a Minnesota legislator, I think that I posted this before, who is also a doctor and he said that there is pressure to call every case CoVid-19 and every death is due to CoViD-19.

Yet that would belie Minnesota's comparatively low cases/M or deaths/M in their population, so that can't be it. I'm also assuming that there would not be many assignations of a positive case in the absence of corroborating RT-PCR positive or irrefutable clinical signs. Unlike New York and New Jersey that teetered on the precipe of a full-on hospital collapse, Minnesota was never pressed so as to take such shortcuts in diagnostics.

Minnesota has had 14.6% the number of cases we have had, but 42% of our mortality in raw numbers. Controlled for population, Cases/M for MN: 652; Texas 883. Deaths/M for MN: 49; Texas 23. So there's something else cooking here.

I also saw where Miami has had no murders in 7 weeks. Does that justify continuing the lockdown? I would think not but some people just might argue that as well.

There are silver linings - I would hope going forward that they're embraced fully to the benefit of all. Technology acting a substitute for the commute, for example.

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ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

The WHO were justified in that torture - the statistics are important.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:29:36 PM

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How much do you want to bet there is some language in one the bailout bills....."...the fraction of the $608.72B Healthcare Entity Support Fund allotted to each state shall be determined by the HHS Secretary based on the fraction of officially recorded deaths attributable to COVID-19 disease as of July 1, 2020..."

Why else would anyone try to pad the numbers? In the PRC you report a number about 20% of the true number if you don't want an AK-47 round through the back of your head and your organs "donated"

I think that they use a pistol bullet as it is not as messy. They also charge the family for the cartridge but the family gets no money for the donated organs. I do not know if the rest of the body is used for hog food.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:31:21 PM

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ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

Then they can justify their existence and try to use such inflated numbers to get even more money for more control over the world's economy.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:33:58 PM

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Listening to the radio when driving, it seems that every large and medium sized company in the country, plus all car dealers and numerous others, have advertisements about how they are taking measures regarding COVID-19. So all the marketing resources necessary to produce those ads are obviously considered 'critical' in states where they are produced.

An acquaintance in Kansas is trying to get their vegetables planted, and he usually orders seeds online. The seed company is located in Michigan, and they are not allowed to ship product because of the state ordered lock down measures.

Advertising is critical but planting food is not.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

he can always order seeds from China.

There are other seed companies out there.

But you can see where the state locking things down is interfering with interstate commerce which is a Federal responsibility.

https://www.burpee.com/homepage

https://www.gurneys.com/

My response was tongue in cheek based on my Amazon order recently. I'd ordered some heirloom tomato seeds and didn't bother to check where they came from.
The package came yesterday. Two weeks late. From China.

I'm much happier getting local seeds from a nearby source. Our local B & Q (which is like the UK version of Homebase) just reopened. I went, stood in a line for entry for 20 minutes. Two meters apart from everyone.

They had it well organised inside. Much easier to shop actually and the checkout was much quicker than usual. A bit of order does wonders.

So I got some wood and sand, some screws and seeds.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:38:59 PM

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If you want to plant potatoes, there is a way to get about 100 pounds (40+kg) from a patch 4 feet by 4 feet. Just go vertical!

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 8:56:45 PM

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I used to grow potatoes in 30 gallon trash cans.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 9:34:02 PM

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Make a wood frame, just keep adding boards and dirt/sand but never cover more than one third of the potato plant.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 9:50:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Listening to the radio when driving, it seems that every large and medium sized company in the country, plus all car dealers and numerous others, have advertisements about how they are taking measures regarding COVID-19. So all the marketing resources necessary to produce those ads are obviously considered 'critical' in states where they are produced.

An acquaintance in Kansas is trying to get their vegetables planted, and he usually orders seeds online. The seed company is located in Michigan, and they are not allowed to ship product because of the state ordered lock down measures.

Advertising is critical but planting food is not.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

he can always order seeds from China.

There are other seed companies out there.

But you can see where the state locking things down is interfering with interstate commerce which is a Federal responsibility.

https://www.burpee.com/homepage

https://www.gurneys.com/

My response was tongue in cheek based on my Amazon order recently. I'd ordered some heirloom tomato seeds and didn't bother to check where they came from.
The package came yesterday. Two weeks late. From China.

I'm much happier getting local seeds from a nearby source. Our local B & Q (which is like the UK version of Homebase) just reopened. I went, stood in a line for entry for 20 minutes. Two meters apart from everyone.

They had it well organised inside. Much easier to shop actually and the checkout was much quicker than usual. A bit of order does wonders.

So I got some wood and sand, some screws and seeds.

Growing and eating your own tomatoes is one of life's absolute joys!

One year I even grew them upside down.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 10:18:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: obvert

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Listening to the radio when driving, it seems that every large and medium sized company in the country, plus all car dealers and numerous others, have advertisements about how they are taking measures regarding COVID-19. So all the marketing resources necessary to produce those ads are obviously considered 'critical' in states where they are produced.

An acquaintance in Kansas is trying to get their vegetables planted, and he usually orders seeds online. The seed company is located in Michigan, and they are not allowed to ship product because of the state ordered lock down measures.

Advertising is critical but planting food is not.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

he can always order seeds from China.

There are other seed companies out there.

But you can see where the state locking things down is interfering with interstate commerce which is a Federal responsibility.

https://www.burpee.com/homepage

https://www.gurneys.com/

My response was tongue in cheek based on my Amazon order recently. I'd ordered some heirloom tomato seeds and didn't bother to check where they came from.
The package came yesterday. Two weeks late. From China.

I'm much happier getting local seeds from a nearby source. Our local B & Q (which is like the UK version of Homebase) just reopened. I went, stood in a line for entry for 20 minutes. Two meters apart from everyone.

They had it well organised inside. Much easier to shop actually and the checkout was much quicker than usual. A bit of order does wonders.

So I got some wood and sand, some screws and seeds.

Growing and eating your own tomatoes is one of life's absolute joys!

One year I even grew them upside down.

How about two bushels of cucumbers twice a week? Fresh corn on the cob for the first part of July? Fresh green beans out of the garden? A soup bowl full of fresh raspberries with real cream? With a little sugar? 5/6ths of a blueberry pie for breakfast?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 10:20:31 PM

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Be careful in saying that Sweeden has a higher mortality rate, as in the BBC article I reference above, they might be counting differently than others.

I think obvert said 'other countries nearby'. It's a useful comparative. Scandinavian countries ex-Sweden show much much lower Deaths/M. Sweden's 217/M is a significant departure from Denmark's 73, Norway's 37 or Finland's 34 and probably not explainable by vagaries in how deaths are counted.

Ok, just some really crude math here. Norway has a population of around 5 million, Sweden twice that. Deaths per annum are incredibly stable in Norway at around 40,000 per year.

40,000 deaths per year divided by 12 months, gives us a very crude average of 3,333 month. A month roughly corresponds to the lockdown, at least here in the states we are past 40 days.

Divide by 5, and they have 666 deaths per million per month in Norway.

Norway's 37/m figure is very low compared to Sweden's 217, but perhaps not. And then, perhaps Norway's number's are merely delayed...while Sweden is much closer to being final.

These are great topics for statisticians down the road, and as I have said before we are living thru one of the greatest and largest experiments ever tried and there will be plenty of after action analysis.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 10:27:55 PM

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ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

The WHO were justified in that torture - the statistics are important.

Easy for you to say. There is a code for "attack by Emperor Penguin, first encounter". Sometimes I code "Chagas disease" (South American parasitic disease) just for fun

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 10:36:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

The WHO were justified in that torture - the statistics are important.

Easy for you to say. There is a code for "attack by Emperor Penguin, first encounter". Sometimes I code "Chagas disease" (South American parasitic disease) just for fun

He claims that the WHO is justified in that torture and the statistics are important but he provides no evidence of that. It is just another power play by someone who things that state control is most important. Maybe he should relocate. Maybe North Korea . . .

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 10:43:31 PM

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In other news, we have "ladies" driving down from North Carolina to get their hair done. Glory be to opening up the economy.

Sorry, I meant to say bimbos and not ladies.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 11:30:14 PM

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ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

The WHO were justified in that torture - the statistics are important.

Easy for you to say. There is a code for "attack by Emperor Penguin, first encounter". Sometimes I code "Chagas disease" (South American parasitic disease) just for fun

Not really, see for yourself - https://www.who.int/data/gho

Making that data of this nature accessible is absolutely critical in encouraging the research and modelling that make a serious contribution to health outcomes.

If it's painful on your end, that's because input control is needed in all good systems - garbage in, garbage out

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 11:39:48 PM

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Georgia and North Carolina share a common border, so if folks are driving from Franklin, NC, to Clayton, GA, to get a hairdo or haircut, that wouldn't be surprising. But if they're driving from Raleigh to Savannah, that would be noteworthy.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 11:52:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

The WHO were justified in that torture - the statistics are important.

Easy for you to say. There is a code for "attack by Emperor Penguin, first encounter". Sometimes I code "Chagas disease" (South American parasitic disease) just for fun

Is there a code for "Close encounter, first kind"?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/26/2020 11:54:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

The WHO were justified in that torture - the statistics are important.

Easy for you to say. There is a code for "attack by Emperor Penguin, first encounter". Sometimes I code "Chagas disease" (South American parasitic disease) just for fun

Not really, see for yourself - https://www.who.int/data/gho

Making that data of this nature accessible is absolutely critical in encouraging the research and modelling that make a serious contribution to health outcomes.

If it's painful on your end, that's because input control is needed in all good systems - garbage in, garbage out

No, I disagree. What benefit is it to know if the injury from an Emperor Penguin was a first or subsequent encounter? Or (as noted in a prior thread here) an injury sustained in a killer whale encounter?

Enormous effort goes into collecting data that either will not be used, or should not be used (but probably will be used if it costs taxpayer money to do so).

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/27/2020 1:02:58 AM

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The better half unleashed the DVR this evening. On came one of the Sunday morning shows. I will debate the reaction to this thing till the cows come home, but I found it a bit distasteful to listen/watch about how important getting one's hair color and nails sorted out is now......

All that said, we were planning on putting in a greenhouse this year - I am guessing the price of that might just have increased.

Our neighbors have been enjoying fishing for bass in our pond. Catch and release at the moment.......but you never know. The food supply chain issue is certainly hurting our local farmers. The US produces/tosses too much so likely not too big a challenge but I have to imagine that issue might really hurt some other countries if export/import on food supplies gets messed up.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/27/2020 1:17:25 AM

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Well, you have to admit. Everyone's hair looks like caca.

Except for CR and I, who have stylish mullets.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/27/2020 1:21:20 AM

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Well, you have to admit. Everyone's hair looks like caca.

Except for CR and I, who have stylish mullets.

Only if you have hair . . .

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/27/2020 1:23:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ICD-10 codes

U07.1 Confirmed Covid 19

J12.89 Viral pneumonia other cause

If you code the upper one first its COVID pneumonia, vice versa it's viral pneumonia.

The WHO tortured the entire world's medical community with these things so they sit in a fancy hotel in Geneva having cocktails and sushi talking about the numbers.

The WHO were justified in that torture - the statistics are important.

Easy for you to say. There is a code for "attack by Emperor Penguin, first encounter". Sometimes I code "Chagas disease" (South American parasitic disease) just for fun

Not really, see for yourself - https://www.who.int/data/gho

Making that data of this nature accessible is absolutely critical in encouraging the research and modelling that make a serious contribution to health outcomes.

If it's painful on your end, that's because input control is needed in all good systems - garbage in, garbage out

No, I disagree. What benefit is it to know if the injury from an Emperor Penguin was a first or subsequent encounter? Or (as noted in a prior thread here) an injury sustained in a killer whale encounter?

Enormous effort goes into collecting data that either will not be used, or should not be used (but probably will be used if it costs taxpayer money to do so).

If the Emperor penguins end up causing a lot in injuries, it would be documented and then the government could take steps to ban those highly dangerous animals . . .

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/27/2020 1:24:42 AM

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Doesn't really matter if we never see our fellow humans anymore

I went to bed with the computer - I can watch some movies.

Stay sane all......

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/27/2020 1:59:42 AM

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US mortality dropped significantly today to the lowest level since March 31. New York and New Jersey had big drops. Eight states reported no deaths today.

A quick scan of ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS and New York Times websites shows uniformly negative covid news stories. Seriously - every story is negative - how will we handle summer, what's the matter with the president, what will we do and when can we do it? Not a single positive story from those five sources on the first day with big jumps in good news in so many jurisdictions.

These critters are incorrigible.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/27/2020 2:06:02 AM

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The CNN website.