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ORIGINAL: rader

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.

2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.

Alfred

Wow thanks Alfred! So if I understand correctly, production occurs immediately before distribution, so the answer is effectively #1 and there is no way to prevent the Chinese LCUs from receiving their intrinsic supply by bombing. Thus I'm probably dropping a lot of ordnance on nothing

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ORIGINAL: rader

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.

2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.

Alfred

Wow thanks Alfred! So if I understand correctly, production occurs immediately before distribution, so the answer is effectively #1 and there is no way to prevent the Chinese LCUs from receiving their intrinsic supply by bombing. Thus I'm probably dropping a lot of ordnance on nothing

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: rader

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.

2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.

Alfred

Wow thanks Alfred! So if I understand correctly, production occurs immediately before distribution, so the answer is effectively #1 and there is no way to prevent the Chinese LCUs from receiving their intrinsic supply by bombing. Thus I'm probably dropping a lot of ordnance on nothing

As others have said, make sure you keep the airfields damaged. Not only will you get some supply hits, but engineers will preferentially repair the airfield versus rebuilding forts. After you / when you drop forts down from 6 to 5, you sure don't want to see them go back up again!

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ORIGINAL: rader

Anyone know how I get the Combined 8th CD unit?

I've tried looking at any SNLF units called anything like "8th", but can't seem to find any that combine or upgrade to make this unit. Tracker says it never arrives but is available.

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ORIGINAL: rader

Anyone know how I get the Combined 8th CD unit?

I've tried looking at any SNLF units called anything like "8th", but can't seem to find any that combine or upgrade to make this unit. Tracker says it never arrives but is available.

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ORIGINAL: rader

The walls are closing on Chungking, the last major Chinese base.

He's got an incredible ~14K AV defending, but they've got to be low on supplies and we're bombing every day.

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ORIGINAL: GetAssista

Chungking is mixed bag of emotions for Japan. You will go through several extremely bloody assaults, where Chinese AV stays strong with no signs of wavering (thanks to respawns). And then suddenly everything folds in a couple more battles, as supplies are zeroed and morale/disruption hit lows. All your tanks and most arty should be there, no other productive uses for them in late 42 or early 43 unless Allies blunder onto some major operation this early.
Also, look on the experience gains for your units and rejoice :) CK is the best training there is in the game

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ORIGINAL: jdsrae

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ORIGINAL: rader

Anyone know how I get the Combined 8th CD unit?

I've tried looking at any SNLF units called anything like "8th", but can't seem to find any that combine or upgrade to make this unit. Tracker says it never arrives but is available.

The Kure 6th and Yokosuka 7th are sub units.
They both arrive on day 348.

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The Kure 6th and Yokosuka 7th are sub units.
They both arrive on day 348.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Good luck in your game!

I have advocated using Pete's as night CAP, they disrupt the bombing but don't die in droves like fighters. You of course need AA, make sure it has searchlights and plenty of radars present. Later on Dinah fighters can do good work at disrupting night time bombing runs, I always make a squadron or two and break them down into thirds for night time duty.

Taking Chungking without stacking limits. Move as much heavy artillery there as you can, bombard with only them each day, especially after they have fortified to level 1, plus daily aerial bombings. Take hexside control, and if you also send the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions there you will be able to take the city in 5-7 attacks resting 5 days or so between attacks. I did it to Wargamr, he pretty much sir robin'd most of China into Chungking. Try to prevent aerial resupply, too.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: rader

The walls are closing on Chungking, the last major Chinese base.

He's got an incredible ~14K AV defending, but they've got to be low on supplies and we're bombing every day.

not sure how you would ever take this base against 14k enemy av. If you want to look at my AAR, I took Chungking and the rest of China and had massive probs to take the base with my 10k Army vs just something like 2-2,5k of Chinese in total over the course of the battle there. And yes, I was using 500 IJA medium bombers for a year in China and the Chinese were out of supply everywhere. No idea how you would take the base against this stack. I would just place 2500 av there and block the base forever, the enemy can't force you to retreat but you also won't be able to take the base IMO.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Good luck in your game!

I have advocated using Pete's as night CAP, they disrupt the bombing but don't die in droves like fighters. You of course need AA, make sure it has searchlights and plenty of radars present. Later on Dinah fighters can do good work at disrupting night time bombing runs, I always make a squadron or two and break them down into thirds for night time duty.

Taking Chungking without stacking limits. Move as much heavy artillery there as you can, bombard with only them each day, especially after they have fortified to level 1, plus daily aerial bombings. Take hexside control, and if you also send the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions there you will be able to take the city in 5-7 attacks resting 5 days or so between attacks. I did it to Wargamr, he pretty much sir robin'd most of China into Chungking. Try to prevent aerial resupply, too.

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ORIGINAL: Andav


In my game with witpqs (DBB so basically scenario 1), the first assault was across the river. I am pretty sure witpqs retreated most of his forces into the mountains on the Burma side. I had bombed since August while blocking hexsides and such before the first attacks.


000202 Ground combat 1942-12-07 Chungking 76,45

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 49269 troops, 619 guns, 1019 vehicles, Assault Value = 1449

Defending force 146121 troops, 140 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4577

Japanese adjusted assault: 201

Allied adjusted defense: 10203

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 50 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)


If fell April 15th after 5 or 6 attacks. Lots of IJA Artillery and all the tanks in China.


000033 Ground combat 1943-04-15 Chungking 76,45

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 204003 troops, 2147 guns, 1400 vehicles, Assault Value = 6152

Defending force 215647 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2914

Japanese adjusted assault: 2129

Allied adjusted defense: 473

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chungking !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
20997 casualties reported
Squads: 338 destroyed, 1391 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 195 disabled
Engineers: 64 destroyed, 142 disabled
Guns lost 213 (22 destroyed, 191 disabled)
Vehicles lost 79 (14 destroyed, 65 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
217803 casualties reported
Squads: 4288 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 13868 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 29 (29 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 113

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ORIGINAL: rader

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Good luck in your game!

I have advocated using Pete's as night CAP, they disrupt the bombing but don't die in droves like fighters. You of course need AA, make sure it has searchlights and plenty of radars present. Later on Dinah fighters can do good work at disrupting night time bombing runs, I always make a squadron or two and break them down into thirds for night time duty.

Taking Chungking without stacking limits. Move as much heavy artillery there as you can, bombard with only them each day, especially after they have fortified to level 1, plus daily aerial bombings. Take hexside control, and if you also send the 1st and 2nd Tank Divisions there you will be able to take the city in 5-7 attacks resting 5 days or so between attacks. I did it to Wargamr, he pretty much sir robin'd most of China into Chungking. Try to prevent aerial resupply, too.

Petes for disruption are a good idea if they don't die so much. I've been losing good pilots in Nicks at night which don't seem to make a dent but still die.

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ORIGINAL: rader

How is it lowering morale if I'm just bombing the airfield? Should I switch to bombing some ground troops too?

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ORIGINAL: rader

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: rader

The walls are closing on Chungking, the last major Chinese base.

He's got an incredible ~14K AV defending, but they've got to be low on supplies and we're bombing every day.

not sure how you would ever take this base against 14k enemy av. If you want to look at my AAR, I took Chungking and the rest of China and had massive probs to take the base with my 10k Army vs just something like 2-2,5k of Chinese in total over the course of the battle there. And yes, I was using 500 IJA medium bombers for a year in China and the Chinese were out of supply everywhere. No idea how you would take the base against this stack. I would just place 2500 av there and block the base forever, the enemy can't force you to retreat but you also won't be able to take the base IMO.

Hmm, is this true? I figured the first few assaults are purely to drop forts at extremely heavy cost. Once the forts are below 3, artillery and air will start to grind him down so he will no longer have such a devastatingly strong stack.