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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/26/2020 8:00:43 PM   
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Impulse #7 (Axis)

The German FTR2 gets shot down.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/26/2020 8:04:49 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/26/2020 8:10:56 PM   
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Final odds on the attacks.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/26/2020 8:15:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		The first attack is on Reims, and automatic. The result is not converted to retreat. Which of the three defenders will be shattered?

And, if it can be decided on now, what combat tables will be used for the two Japanese attacks?




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 11:44:08 AM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 1:24:53 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 1:29:04 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 1:31:04 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 1:38:35 PM   
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Next is the assault on Changsha.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 1:44:44 PM   
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Edit: One US entry marker added (3).




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 1:52:07 PM   
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The final attack is the assault on Kweilin.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 2:01:20 PM   
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Edit: No US entry marker added (10).




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 2:20:21 PM   
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Air Rebase:

Japan:
Nav3 -> 72,144

Germany:
FTR2 (Kiel) -> 52,31

Italy:
NAV2 (Genoa) -> 51,30
FTR2 (Turin) -> 61,30
LND3 (Antwerp) -> Turin

German HQA reorganize one KND3, and one FTR3.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 2:24:48 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 2:31:53 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 2:35:16 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/27/2020 2:36:05 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/28/2020 9:41:49 PM   
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Russia declares on Japan. A 5 is rolled and both chits are removed.
Russia calls out their reserves.
* Militia in their respective cities
* CAV in Khaborovsk
* 7-4 INF in Khaborovsk
* 4-3 INF in Chita

China - Land
France - Land
USSR - Land
CW - combined
US - combined

Port attacks:
None

Naval air:
None

Naval movement:
CW sails some convoys to Cape St Vincent.
CW transports a NAV to Gibraltar.

Strategic bombardment:
CW bombs Essen, Dusseldorf and Hamburg. All fails miserably (1, 4 and 4 rolled).

Groundstrikes:
French artillery tries to groundstrike Von Bocks hex. All fails miserably (6 and 4 rolled).


Rail movement:
Dehli MIL railed to Calcutta.
USSR rails Timoshenko to Siberia (two hexes NW of Vladivostok)


Land movement:
Russia withdraws from the Bessarabian front after new political directives.


Russia advances into Manchuria, threatening the capital.


The Communist Chinese rally to cover the roving divisions.
China moves back towards the industrial heartland.



France rallies around Paris. CW retreats in France.


Land attacks:
None

Air rebase:
USSR rebases a bomber towards Siberia.
USSR rebases a FTR and a bomber with the attacking forces in Manchuria.

HQ reorg:
None

End of turn on less than 5. 10 rolled.

New weather is terrible.


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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/28/2020 10:22:57 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/29/2020 8:09:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

This may be the best attack on France I've ever seen.


It is a beast of an attack to be sure. We have been punished for not playing with 1D10-landcombat för a 20 years and it changes things quite a bit. The roll of 1 in the 7:1 attack into Germany was quite punishing as well.
The only thing that is a bit comforting is the use of both O-chits

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/29/2020 8:56:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Weather dice are more important than combat dice. I believe Germany rolled very poorly on their first attack as well as the French (and the Japanese, iirc). I will try that cross-Rhine Surprise Impulse attack at even 5:1 if the Germans have all GARR in the area, but the price of failure is a thin line in Belgium if the Germans are coming.

The difference between 1d10 and 2d10 is mostly seen across a series of attacks; 2d10 attacks can fail just as likely. In the 2 key attacks for Germany in Belgium, they rolled rather 2d10 like, and just below average (which is 5.5 or 11 on 2d10) by rolling a 5 on each of those attacks.

France First is a powerful strategy if the weather works out. There are a number of possible Allied responses.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/29/2020 11:24:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: brian brian
France First is a powerful strategy if the weather works out. There are a number of possible Allied responses.

Run in circles, scream, and shout?

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/30/2020 2:21:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		WiF is a subtle game; small decisions accumulate. An attack across the Rhine to activate Yugoslavia wrecks France First fairly well, sometimes. High risk, high reward, a bit like France First itself, which risks things in Poland, and often Denmark as well. Storm impulses and short turns can see Germany bogged down in multiple countries while handing lots of nice 1939 entry chits to the USA while gaining very little in the Low Countries.

One choice, skipped in this game, is for the Allies to keep the Polish air force in Poland. Though it helps to deliver the Persian oil to a Polish city, which is often possible when Germany is light on units in the east; particularly so when they roll a bad combat roll and many of their units become disorganized - not uncommon when a lot of Luftwaffe is in the west. Then on the reinforcement phase a new Polish unit arrives to protect that oil point for a time. The Allies here did at least keep the Polish HQ and infantry division in Poland, rather than intern it for future CW use, as many players do almost automatically.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 6/30/2020 2:29:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Also the Allies Surprise Impulse air missions can be used to hit the German HQs in the West. Far bigger gain than strategic bombing with a success on either of 2 dice. Hitting the tri-border hex with the French bomber in this game was good, but unlucky, this time; I would probably use the bomber to help cross the Rhine however and let the RAF have a go at German mobilization centers.

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 7/2/2020 6:10:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Italy informed me that if we had moved our forces slightly different during the last impulse, then we would have been able to block France from reinforcing Paris. Then we would have had a 5:1 assault on Paris now (50% chance on 7:1 - modified for weather).

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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 7/2/2020 6:11:21 PM   
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No declarations of war.

Land: Germany
Combined: Italy, Japan
Naval:

No port strikes. No naval air.

Naval Movement:

Italy:
CA San Giorgio + INF Div (La Spezia) -> Olbia

Japan:
TRS Loads MIL + CA (Tokyo) -> Tsingtao
TRS + CA + BB (Canton) -> China Sea 0-Box

No strategic bombing. No Ground Strikes.

Rail Moves:

Japan:
MIL Tsingtao ->Kirin

Germany:
INF (Danzig) -> Brussels

Italy:
GARR (Rome) -> Saarbrucken

Land Movement:

Italy:
INF Div Olbia -> 67, 34
MOT 62, 31 -> 63, 30

Japan:
CAV Div 69,135->69,132
MIL Shanghai-> Nanking
MOT Div 71,136->70,140

Germany:
In Poland:
MECH (47,45) -> Danzig
INF Div (52,46) -> Krakow
In France:
Follow the retreating French, and CW, forces.
Capture Lille, Vichy, and Calais.

Germany makes one automatic attack versus the disorganized French INF in hex 54,31.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 7/2/2020 6:34:25 PM   
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Air rebase:

Italy:
FTR2 61, 30 -> 63, 30

Japan:
NAV3 72,144->69,146
FTR2 Nanchang->69,147
CVP CVL Hosho -> Tokyo

Germany:
FTR2 (56,32) -> 55,30
FTR3 (54,32) -> 57,30
ATR3 (Frankfurt) -> 55,31
LND3 (Saarbrucken) -> 56,31

No reorganization.




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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 7/2/2020 6:37:06 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 7/2/2020 6:39:06 PM   
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RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse - 7/2/2020 6:42:19 PM   
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