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The fact the AF is procuring more F-15s is pretty negative for the F-35. I saw a F-35 at an airshow last year. The plane can fly. I have concerns that is too fragile for CAS compared to the A-10.
This is symptomatic of the kind of one-dimensional thinking that Alfred pointed out earlier in the thread with his "orchestra" comparison.
You're not using the F-35 for CAS, you're using the F-35 to co-ordinate the drones that provide the CAS. See the XQ-58 for an example.
Well thank you for calling me one dimensional. And not addressing the additional F-15 procurement. You think that came out of nowhere? If you want to control more drones get a dedicated bird, not a one pilot fighter.
As pointed out previously, having specialised aircraft may not by default be a cheaper solution as now you've a larger air force and the costs that come with it.
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I think the low readiness states reported above might be exagerated.. perhaps even a ruse for potentiell enemies...
Just per coincidence I found this article on a German aviation site, reporting problems with F-35 "OBIGGS (On Board Inert Gas Generation System)":
https://aerobuzz.de/militar/f-35-lightning-ii-muessen-sich-von-gewittern-fernhalten/
But I also have read F-35 was good in A2A combat in "red flags exercises" I guess vs. F15/16(?)
That it´s weapons are inside gives F-35 of course an advantage compared to planes having all payload on pylons.. these add of course weight and drag. Also eg. the outboard fuel tanks need to be jettisoned in A2A. Or potentially bombs/ground attack missiles too. F-35 has an advantage carrying everything inside.
Downside is low payload, for my taste TOO low. Also would weapons bay opening perhaps screw with stealth?
Depends how you define A2A. Dogfighting? Nope, it is "meat on the table" for even Gen II Russian planes.
When was the last time air-to-air combat occurred where dogfighting actively occurred?
The characteristics key in dogfighting, while still desirable in an airframe, have much less importance now than previously.
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The fact the AF is procuring more F-15s is pretty negative for the F-35. I saw a F-35 at an airshow last year. The plane can fly. I have concerns that is too fragile for CAS compared to the A-10.
This is symptomatic of the kind of one-dimensional thinking that Alfred pointed out earlier in the thread with his "orchestra" comparison.
You're not using the F-35 for CAS, you're using the F-35 to co-ordinate the drones that provide the CAS. See the XQ-58 for an example.
You don't need a $100,000,000.00 plane to guide drones to target. A larger drone can do that-but there is no profit in that, is there.
Perhaps so, but if you've got all your drone pilots in the same place (let's say a control room on a CV) then a single missile hit and they might be out of action.
If you've got ten F-35's up, there's ten F-35s, each with a semi-autonomous mini-air wing of drones.
That's the kind of war the F-35 is aimed at fighting.
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Same old, same old, I see. 
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