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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/16/2020 1:17:57 AM   
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To my knowledge, the CS need to have their organic air group on them when they convert. The conversion of the ships ALSO converts the air groups to their new composition.



Very true. I made the mistake of taking the air groups off in my (hopefully soon to be reborn) PBEM game. Fortunately (), I lost some carriers and was able to find new homes for the orphaned air units.


yeah I'll keep that in mind for future conversions. I still have 2 CS which can convert to CVL, but I think I'll keep them around to resize float plane units.



You only need one to resize FP units. Not sure about your game, but in the stock game, Nisshin is pretty slow.

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/16/2020 2:48:08 AM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/16/2020 2:51:28 AM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/16/2020 7:39:37 AM   
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Notable reinforcements: a Yugumo class DD, and CV Taikaku (shokaku kai class) The Akizuki class DDs have finished their radar upgrades and will escort the Taikaku until, she can group up with her sister ship the Kaimon in Carrier Division 5. I've begun accelerating the last 2 Shokaku Kai carriers I get rather than the carriers closest to finishing. This should allow me to have all my carriers finished by the end of 43. With the arrival of the Taikaku I now have 10 fleet carriers, 5 CVL, and 2 CVE, with 1 CVL and 2 CVE undergoing their conversion. The Allies currently have 2 enterprise class Carriers and the Wasp, the Formidable for about a week until it withdrawals, the CVLs Hermes and Charlotte, 3 Long Island CVE, and 2-3 Bogue class CVE.

Not alot happened today, air strikes in china were relatively ineffective due to bad weather, and air strikes in India did not fly. The troops at Bataan have had their disruption go down a fair amount so I'll likely order them to attack on the following turn. The main event today was a couple Chinese corps shock attacking across a river into a IJA division I had forgotten to change from move mode to combat mode. The results would've been better if they were in combat mode.

Ground combat at 85,42 (near Sian)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 30400 troops, 95 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1010

Defending force 14894 troops, 101 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 478

Allied adjusted assault: 629

Japanese adjusted defense: 814

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1125 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 104 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1790 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 159 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th New Chinese Corps
27th Chinese Corps
9th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps

Defending units:
69th Division
41st/C Division



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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/17/2020 11:21:11 PM   
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The day opens on some Night time bombing of Aussie resources. The bombers didn't score any hits so ill stand them down for now. Around 40 G4M1s attacked in several waves, but they scored no hits.

Night Air attack on Cloncurry , at 84,142

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

The main event today was a series of sweeps of Hyderabad followed by an unescorted air field attack. Over all losses today was 30 (J): 60 (A) The defending zero units took some heavy pilot losses losing 7 dead and 4 wounded. The tojo Units present did a littler better losing only 2 dead and 4 wounded.

Morning Air attack on Hyderabad (Sindh) , at 42,10

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 41

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 4 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad (Sindh) , at 42,10

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad (Sindh) , at 42,10

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29

Allied aircraft
Audax I x 8
Beaufort I x 8
Blenheim IV x 33
Lysander II x 22
Wapiti IIa x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Audax I: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufort I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Lysander II: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Wapiti IIa: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 42


The second main part of news today occured up in the Aleutians. yesterday some H8K1s spotted a convoy leaving Kodiak. My carriers up there intercepted the convoy and attacked it. Tomorrow I'll strike kodiak after some fighter sweeps.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Alliford Bay at 191,50

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
A6M5 Zero x 63
B5N2 Kate x 36
D3A1 Val x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Dorothy Philips, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Rona, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
AO Brazos, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Aspasia Nomikos, Bomb hits 1
DM Sicard, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Chios, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
TK Gulfhawk
xAK Horace Luckenbach, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Lena Luckenbach, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Coloradan, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Alliford Bay at 191,50

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 23
D3A1 Val x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 3 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
TK Gulfhawk, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Aspasia Nomikos, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage






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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/18/2020 9:19:25 PM   
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Carriers strikes the previous day did not launch but today they found some juicy targets. some AOs were spotted to the north at Anchorage, so I'm gonna head north to intercept.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 184,42

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
A6M5 Zero x 38
B5N2 Kate x 31
D3A1 Val x 58

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 6 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Copahee, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Stack, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Buchanan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Duncan
DD Woodworth
DD McCalla, Bomb hits 1

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Seward at 183,40

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
A6M5 Zero x 37
B5N2 Kate x 39
D3A1 Val x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD John Barry, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
TK H. M. Storey, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Stribling, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
TK Mobilgas, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hart, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
TK Connecticut, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 184,42

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
B5N2 Kate x 92
D3A1 Val x 60

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Pennsylvania, and is sunk
DD Buchanan, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Duncan, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD McCalla, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Caldwell
DD Woodworth, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage


Another Great victory for Japan! BANZAI!!!

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/18/2020 10:48:03 PM   
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Today was a butt clencher, Dean decided to sortie most of his available carriers sans the enterprise to attack my carrier TF near Kodiak. Dean got off the first strike, and I expected to at least lose a carrier or two. Thankfully the CAP did its job and was able to shoot down a good deal of the attackers prior to the attack.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Cordova at 186,40

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M5 Zero x 62

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 57
SBD-3 Dauntless x 71
TBF-1 Avenger x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 16 destroyed, 12 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 3 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
BB Haruna
CV Zuikaku
CA Atago
CVL Nisshin
CVL Shoho
BB Kongo
BB Hiei
CV Kaimon

I have No idea how dean scored 0 hits here. Maybe it was pilot quality? or disruption from how badly the cap mauled his strike beforehand? idk.






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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/18/2020 11:00:03 PM   
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A Japanese Strike was launched simultaneously to the American Strike but found their targets second. CAP ended up shooting down around 15 bombers but the majority of the strike got through. The first dive bombers to attack scored hits on the CVE Kittyhawk, which was followed by hits on the wasp. By the end of it both Allied fleet carriers and all of the CVEs had been hit and were burning. I don't think the fleet carriers are dead yet, so I have follow up strikes planned for tomorrow. Yorktown looks like she's a goner for sure based on the smoke obscuring her, but by the after noon the fires on wasp are no longer heavy.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Yakutat at 186,41

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M5 Zero x 58
B5N2 Kate x 109
D3A1 Val x 79

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 13 destroyed, 11 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 6 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 11 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Kittyhawk, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Tangier, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 2
CVE Long Island, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Hammondsport, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Aylwin
CVL Charlotte, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB North Carolina, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CLAA San Diego
CA Indianapolis, Bomb hits 1
CA Quincy
DD Sterett

Fuel storage explosion on CVE Tangier
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Hammondsport
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Kittyhawk
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Charlotte
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Yorktown
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Tangier

A second Afternoon strike went unopposed by CAP, not a good sign for dean.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Yakutat at 186,41

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M5 Zero x 53
B5N2 Kate x 61
D3A1 Val x 82

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 14 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Indianapolis, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Lardner
CVL Charlotte, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Quincy, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
DD Bancroft, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Dale
CVE Kittyhawk, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB North Carolina, heavy damage
DD Sterett, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Bancroft
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Kittyhawk
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Honolulu
Magazine explodes on DD Sterett





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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/18/2020 11:03:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		So dean is pretty depressed after the outcome of this battle, so IDK if he is gonna continue after losing almost all his carriers......................

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/18/2020 11:57:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Congrats on your victory , Dean looks like someone that doesnt learn from his mistakes. Tried to engage you earlier with carriers and lost a couple , now a month later does the same thing again and expects a different result... I think its time to find a more competant opponent

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/19/2020 1:16:30 AM   
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All glory to the Emperor!

Pretty depressing fight for the Allies. Not a single hit. How badly were his bombers mauled before they tipped over into their dives and TT attack?


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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/19/2020 2:08:50 AM   
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BANZAI!

All glory to the Emperor!

Pretty depressing fight for the Allies. Not a single hit. How badly were his bombers mauled before they tipped over into their dives and TT attack?


Around 25-30 bombers were shot down or forced to turn around prior to their attack, along with around 15 wild cats. At least 35-40 bombers made it and were able to attack but somehow scored 0 hits. They were dropping them bombs at normal dive bombing altitudes (3-5k) so altitude wasnt the problem either. Maybe pilot quality wasnt great???

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/19/2020 2:14:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Also I can confirm that dean has surrendered so this game is over. We will probably start a new game in about a week or so. Not sure if I'll be doing an AAR for that though or what mod we will use.

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/19/2020 4:24:07 AM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/19/2020 4:35:10 AM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/20/2020 12:23:37 PM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/21/2020 3:46:44 AM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/21/2020 12:25:46 PM   
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Hold the phone for a day. I have a new addition nearly finished. Have done work on the Japanese old 2nd class DDs and am adding the new Dutch 1047 Battlecruiser. Hope to release tomorrow night.


Thank you for the heads up, btw why does japan start with less dockyard factories in BTS than in RA? At least the version of the mod that my opponent is using only has 1600 dockyard points despite the increased build queue. Was this a rebalancing since RA or an under sight? In RA the japanese start with almost 1700 dockyard points at the start.

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/21/2020 2:42:50 PM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/22/2020 3:12:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		So I've proposed the idea of a mulligan to dean, and hes responded fairly positively to it. So this game might actually continue with us rolling back a turn before the carrier fiasco. I've never had a game last this long and I really want to get to 43. I dont really feel that I need to kill his carriers either considering I hold such a dominate position on the map.

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/22/2020 3:59:47 AM   
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I have completed the update. If interested, please PM me with your email address and I'll send the new files.


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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/22/2020 6:27:37 AM   
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To my knowledge, the CS need to have their organic air group on them when they convert. The conversion of the ships ALSO converts the air groups to their new composition.



As the game might be back on, I’ll chip in on this topic.
I don’t know for sure, but i read somewhere that only the air units on the 2x Chitose class auto upgrade to F/TB.
They do have to be on the ship and it worked for me in my current game.
As I’d read that it doesn’t work for Nisshin and Mizuho I left those FP units off, so I can’t confirm or deny for those ships.

It might have something to do with the difference between upgrade and conversion.

I would much rather the extra F/TB units if it is possible as I have FP units coming out my ears, while F/TB units are a lot more scarce.


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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/22/2020 9:25:45 AM   
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To my knowledge, the CS need to have their organic air group on them when they convert. The conversion of the ships ALSO converts the air groups to their new composition.



As the game might be back on, I’ll chip in on this topic.
I don’t know for sure, but i read somewhere that only the air units on the 2x Chitose class auto upgrade to F/TB.
They do have to be on the ship and it worked for me in my current game.
As I’d read that it doesn’t work for Nisshin and Mizuho I left those FP units off, so I can’t confirm or deny for those ships.

It might have something to do with the difference between upgrade and conversion.

I would much rather the extra F/TB units if it is possible as I have FP units coming out my ears, while F/TB units are a lot more scarce.



Yeah I left the float planes on for the conversion of the Mizuho and they did not convert to carrier planes.

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/22/2020 9:40:30 AM   
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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/22/2020 1:34:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		The air groups SHOULD have converted. That is strange.

I sent both game folders to each of you. You have the BTSH and BTSL to choose from. As I said in my emails, when I get back from my eldest son's hunting trip, I will get the Dutch BC artwork to you.


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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/23/2020 3:18:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: jdsrae

Did it just kick them ashore, so you didn't lose the FP units?

yeah it just sent them to shore. Mizuho is a Chitose class CS in this game so idk why the units didn't convert. Maybe they didn't have squadrons to convert to?

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/23/2020 3:19:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

The air groups SHOULD have converted. That is strange.

I sent both game folders to each of you. You have the BTSH and BTSL to choose from. As I said in my emails, when I get back from my eldest son's hunting trip, I will get the Dutch BC artwork to you.



Thank you, We will likely start another simultaneous game of BTS or BTSL.

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/23/2020 3:26:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		an alternate Aug 27th. (we ended up rolling back a turn before the carrier fiasco)

Today I pulled my carriers back, I still killed a Bogue class CVE and the BB Pennsylvania for basically free (well at the cost of some fuel tbf). I'm gonna take my win and walk away for now. Idk if I'm gonna move my carriers back to Truk quite yet. Probably need to keep some serious assets up here to prevent an allied reinforcement of Adak. I'll move the carriers back to Ominato for now and regroup with the newly arrived Taikaku and the newly upgraded Akizuki class DDs.

Normal air strikes on Bombay were uncontested as per usual. I'm pretty sure all his planes are damaged and the airfield is too damaged for him to fly them north to Karachi, so they are stuck here...

Morning Air attack on Bombay , at 36,24

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M5 Zero x 33
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 79

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 9 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 28 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
P-38E Lightning: 8 damaged
P-38E Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40K Warhawk: 10 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIa Trop: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 9
Runway hits 57

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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/23/2020 9:29:33 PM   
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I spotted a cruiser TF that in our previous Auguest 27th bombarded. The TF took a standoff position off Russel Island and then pulled back. The TF however continued to sit off the coast of Luganville island. I seriously wondered if it was bait/ some CAP trap, but nonetheless Carrier Division 1 (akagi, kaga) sortied from Truk and launched an attack. It did not appear to be a predetermined trap, there was some Cap, but it looked more like bleed over from Luganville.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 118,149

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 48
B5N2 Kate x 53
D3A1 Val x 24
D3A2 Val x 26

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 8 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Torpedo hits 1
BC Repulse, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk
CL Raleigh
CA Vincennes
DD Laffey, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Birmingham, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Mustin
CA Devonshire, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Russell
CL Concord, Bomb hits 1




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RE: RA Soulsilver (J)vs Deaniks (A) - 10/23/2020 9:31:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		On a side note Bataan fell today. its nearly September but I put it off for so long.

Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 47143 troops, 454 guns, 186 vehicles, Assault Value = 1270

Defending force 28285 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 274

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 429

Allied adjusted defense: 85

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1275 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled
Guns lost 15 (1 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
31962 casualties reported
Squads: 1071 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1973 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 54 (54 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 25

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