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Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/18/2020 11:00:36 PM   
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This is an AAR for my mod Fall Weiss II - World Map. The mod is based on my main mod Fall Weiss II - Western Theater an oft played mod in SC WiE that is quite popular. This new mod has not gained much traction in the community, myself included as I have only played 1 match vs the AI after all the work to prepare it quite some time ago. However with the Western Theater mod mainly exhausted of changes I am now going to turn some attention to the World Map to shake things up.

I've only played 1 match vs the AI of the vanilla campaign as well, and no matches vs PBEM opponent. So while I'm an SC veteran this is going to be a very interesting play through for me as I'm a World Map rookie so to speak. With that said I of course made this mod so I have an advantage in that sense.

Either way I expect this to be a very entertaining match with missteps on my side, and surprises for my opponent i'm sure! This will match could really go off the rails and I've warned my opponent to be flexible with his strategy.

I will be playing the Allies, my opponent the Axis. Good luck to my opponent, and if you are reading this STOP and come back after the game is completed. Thank you!

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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/18/2020 11:13:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		The game opening followed normal course, Germany invaded Poland and a Panzer Corps sits outside the gates of Warsaw. Poland will fall in 2 turns. All of the Commonwealth countries that normally would join the war did including India, with the exception of Canada which would wait an additional turn.

In the East the Japanese continued their heavy assault on the Chinese Army, and units were shuffled in Manchuria.

I intend to shake things up however, and when presented the option on the Allies opening turn the UK invoked the Anglo-Portuguese Alliance. Portugal and her African colonies are preparing to join the war. Spanish mobilization rocketed to 51%.

The Allies begin down our alternate path to victory.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/18/2020 11:19:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Allies on their opening turn have opted for a full naval blockade of Germany which did not result in stirring any Pro-Axis sentiment. The UK also brokered a new agreement with Greece which cut off trade between that nation and Germany (DE not posted). The result of these decisions cuts off a total of 10 MPP per turn that Germany was receiving, albeit only on their opening turn now.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/18/2020 11:21:28 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/19/2020 1:55:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lots of activity this turn, Poland fell on turn 2, and the nation was split between Germany and USSR. The Germans were busy diplomatically swaying Spain, Sweden and Greece. No diplomatic chit investment by the Axis yet however.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/19/2020 2:04:39 AM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/19/2020 2:08:45 AM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/19/2020 5:42:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Following up on the invasion of Poland, the Soviet Union aggressively enforces their territorial claim over the Turkish straits. This act of aggression will ramp up political tensions between these nations, and in all likelihood Turkey will quickly follow Germany into war against the Soviets if the opportunity arises.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/19/2020 5:50:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		The decision to occupy the Turkish straits will later change the entire dynamic of the Eastern Front. The Soviet Union is being overly aggressive and as a result their mobilization % is increasing in anticipation of future conflict.

As a result of this aggression however, Germany will have the opportunity to bring Turkey into the Axis in the initial phases of Barbarossa. This is definitely a double edged sword and the first time I've played this gambit in PBEM in any Fall Weiss game. The increase in USSR mobilization will result in a stronger Soviet Army but also allow the Soviets to absorb any future mobilization penalties easier.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/19/2020 5:52:51 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/21/2020 6:06:20 PM   
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I have played PanzerRommel in WaW and he handed me my head and backside on a silver platter .
Also to see the different DE's you have added Crispy, Some interesting ones so far, and the way they can affect the game and strategy's used.
Good luck to you both and hope to see a interesting game.

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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/21/2020 7:30:42 PM   
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I'm looking forward to this AAR.
I have played PanzerRommel in WaW and he handed me my head and backside on a silver platter .
Also to see the different DE's you have added Crispy, Some interesting ones so far, and the way they can affect the game and strategy's used.
Good luck to you both and hope to see a interesting game.


Thanks hope you enjoy, maybe this mod can gain some transaction, it was collecting dust and from me as well. And yes my opponent feels very competent!

Of course I would find a bug in this play-through! I did a small update before this match and introduced a faulty belligerency script that made UK/India belligerent with Japan in future turns.

It did not activate anything out of the ordinary though so I sent a PM to my opponent and I am sure we can work around it by just keeping the Commonwealth out of Japan's way until they actually want to go to war. Still very annoying...



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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/24/2020 3:29:31 AM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/24/2020 3:31:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		One of the benefits to Portugal joining the war is that another HQ is formed. If the Allies can keep Spain out of the war Portugal's war entry will be very beneficial over the long run.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/24/2020 3:35:47 AM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 8:14:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gotta love the scale variation on the WAW map:

Real life straight-line distances v. In-game distance (counting the originating hex)

Delhi-Kathmandu: 500 miles, 4 hexes (125 miles/hex)
NYC-Washington DC: 230 miles, 2 hexes (115 miles/hex)
St. Johns-Port-aux-Basques: 300 miles, 4 hexes (75 miles/hex)
Tangier-Fez: 130 miles, 2 hexes (65 miles/hex)
Lisbon-Lagos (Portugal): 115 miles, 2 hexes (58 miles/hex)
Chengdu-Chongqing (Chungking): 170 miles, 4 hexes (43 miles/hex)
Beijing (Peking)-Tianjin (Tientsin): 73 miles, 2 hexes (37 miles/hex)
Hamburg-Bremen: 60 miles, 2 hexes (30 miles/hex)
Luxembourg-Amsterdam: 184 miles, 6 hexes (30 miles/hex)

I mean I know why they do this (i.e., for game-play purposes), but just eyeballing it you wouldn't know it varies so much even in some cases within the same continent (e.g., India seems to be on a diferent scale to China, the Low Countries and northern France seem to be on a different scale to Iberia).

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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 3:55:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FOARP

Gotta love the scale variation on the WAW map:

Real life straight-line distances v. In-game distance (counting the originating hex)

Delhi-Kathmandu: 500 miles, 4 hexes (125 miles/hex)
NYC-Washington DC: 230 miles, 2 hexes (115 miles/hex)
St. Johns-Port-aux-Basques: 300 miles, 4 hexes (75 miles/hex)
Tangier-Fez: 130 miles, 2 hexes (65 miles/hex)
Lisbon-Lagos (Portugal): 115 miles, 2 hexes (58 miles/hex)
Chengdu-Chongqing (Chungking): 170 miles, 4 hexes (43 miles/hex)
Beijing (Peking)-Tianjin (Tientsin): 73 miles, 2 hexes (37 miles/hex)
Hamburg-Bremen: 60 miles, 2 hexes (30 miles/hex)
Luxembourg-Amsterdam: 184 miles, 6 hexes (30 miles/hex)

I mean I know why they do this (i.e., for game-play purposes), but just eyeballing it you wouldn't know it varies so much even in some cases within the same continent (e.g., India seems to be on a diferent scale to China, the Low Countries and northern France seem to be on a different scale to Iberia).



I only learned this year that the actual world map as I know it is not to scale. I think for game play purposes this is a good map. Egypt certainly feels far away more so then in WiE...

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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 5:22:58 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 5:28:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Allied investment in Spanish diplomacy pays dividends early. With the high Spanish mobilization from Portugal entering the war this is a welcome sight.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 5:34:18 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 5:51:13 PM   
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Lots of small activity on this turn, the most notable being that Nanning fell to the Japanese. USSR also invaded Finland and British spies report that the construction of Germany's Tirpitz Battleship was cancelled.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 5:54:22 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 5:58:43 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 6:44:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FOARP

Gotta love the scale variation on the WAW map:

Real life straight-line distances v. In-game distance (counting the originating hex)

Delhi-Kathmandu: 500 miles, 4 hexes (125 miles/hex)
NYC-Washington DC: 230 miles, 2 hexes (115 miles/hex)
St. Johns-Port-aux-Basques: 300 miles, 4 hexes (75 miles/hex)
Tangier-Fez: 130 miles, 2 hexes (65 miles/hex)
Lisbon-Lagos (Portugal): 115 miles, 2 hexes (58 miles/hex)
Chengdu-Chongqing (Chungking): 170 miles, 4 hexes (43 miles/hex)
Beijing (Peking)-Tianjin (Tientsin): 73 miles, 2 hexes (37 miles/hex)
Hamburg-Bremen: 60 miles, 2 hexes (30 miles/hex)
Luxembourg-Amsterdam: 184 miles, 6 hexes (30 miles/hex)

I mean I know why they do this (i.e., for game-play purposes), but just eyeballing it you wouldn't know it varies so much even in some cases within the same continent (e.g., India seems to be on a diferent scale to China, the Low Countries and northern France seem to be on a different scale to Iberia).



As I found out to my chagrin trying to precisely locate certain places on my 20k map, the use of hexes means that the resulting hex grid distorts distances-any distances along the diagonal axis will appear longer than they would along the short axis (perpendicular distance), even if in the game the effective distances in hexes traveled will be the same.

In addition because of the use of the mercator projection here, E-W distances will be longer the farther north or south of the equator you go.

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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 8:36:47 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 8:40:10 PM   
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Germany dishonors the sale of naval assets to USSR as agreed in the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, which slightly edges up Soviet mobilization.




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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 8:44:36 PM   
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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/25/2020 9:29:50 PM   
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Interesting France setup. May I ask why you left those 2 hexes SW of Luxemburg? Good defensive terrain. Plus that army S of Strasbourg, probably won't see a lot of action.

Did you agree not to attack France at once, or does your mod punishes early gung-ho somewhat?
Good AAR, thank you.

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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/26/2020 1:48:30 AM   
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Interesting France setup. May I ask why you left those 2 hexes SW of Luxemburg? Good defensive terrain. Plus that army S of Strasbourg, probably won't see a lot of action.

Did you agree not to attack France at once, or does your mod punishes early gung-ho somewhat?
Good AAR, thank you.


Yes I agree I should have made better use of the terrain near Luxembourg and I did end up moving a Corps into the forest the next turn when I realized that, initially I hoped funnel the Germans in effort to counter attack their salient and perhaps even destroy a unit or two. However with Germany spending minimal on research to date I then assumed that a number of additional Tank/Mech units will likely be facing me and I would be better served simply slowing the advance.

I've only played 2 match vs the AI before (one each side) and no PBEM so I'm not quite seasoned on what the optimal defense could be yet.

I left the Army S of Strasbourg in case Germany tried to break through the weak spot in the Maginot line which is Strasbourg itself. It either will let me swap in a fresh unit if the Strasbourg Army takes a beating and has low morale when I go to reinforce or could allow me to counter attack a unit that tries to breakthrough.

We did not set any house rules. There are some MPP restraints for Germany in the early game which are present in the mod (decisions etc.), which could have played a factor into not wanting to operate units for an early offensive, if that is what you meant.

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RE: Fall Weiss II - PBEM AAR (World Map) - 8/26/2020 2:06:12 AM   
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