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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 12:27:37 PM   
Lowpe


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Our two light cruisers at Calcutta are scheduled to withdraw in a month or three...that means a dangerous run thru the Japanese supply line which is watched over by the mini KB.

Flying the mountain guns to Ankang before Japan closes that runway...


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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 12:38:41 PM   
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Does she head northwest towards Mombasa or along the coast to Bombay and the removal of some of the system damage?



I think you had good die rolls for the full speed run to Mangalore. It is unlikely you would get a whole series of them in a row for a run to Mombasa/Cape Town. For that reason I would move to Bombay and remove all the system damage first. There is no great rush to get the ship off-map, unless you fear KB making a coastal sweep. I think that is unlikely given how you have bled KB already.

If you do move NW to get out of the area before subs stake out Indian ports, you do not have to go to Mombasa first. When your TF is at the map's edge you can set it to go directly to Cape Town and it will still exit the map quickly before going the calculated distance south to CT.


Disbanding in Managalore for a turn or two...as we build up aerial search from Goa and send out some ASW patrols.

Don't you still take damage going from on map to off map base? That might make the Cape Town run more dangerous?


You don't take new system damage while between off map and on map, but you can get runaway flooding from a bad die roll. You can also get removal of some minor damage with good die rolls. I have never seen damage advance between two off-map locations, but I rarely send damaged ships further than CT.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 1:19:29 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		No damage incurred off map to off map ... genesis of the cheese flank speed runs with xakl from Cape Town to US, but what happens to already severely damaged ships? Don't know, haven't paid attention.


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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 1:30:29 PM   
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Does she head northwest towards Mombasa or along the coast to Bombay and the removal of some of the system damage?



I think you had good die rolls for the full speed run to Mangalore. It is unlikely you would get a whole series of them in a row for a run to Mombasa/Cape Town. For that reason I would move to Bombay and remove all the system damage first. There is no great rush to get the ship off-map, unless you fear KB making a coastal sweep. I think that is unlikely given how you have bled KB already.

If you do move NW to get out of the area before subs stake out Indian ports, you do not have to go to Mombasa first. When your TF is at the map's edge you can set it to go directly to Cape Town and it will still exit the map quickly before going the calculated distance south to CT.


Disbanding in Managalore for a turn or two...as we build up aerial search from Goa and send out some ASW patrols.

Don't you still take damage going from on map to off map base? That might make the Cape Town run more dangerous?


For the most part, ships don't accumulate damage off map. Getting off map, they can accumulate damage. That said, I would not make high speed runs off map.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 1:57:03 PM   
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In my current game, the West Virginia had to keep returning to the Panama Canal because as soon as I set it off for the Eastern US (System damage 0 Major Flooding 54) it kept increasing flooding.

Got it there eventually like, but considering it was damaged at PH on the opening day of the war, getting it to the Eastern USA for Sept 1943 is a tad inconvenient

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 2:03:08 PM   
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Not so sure about that

In my current game, the West Virginia had to keep returning to the Panama Canal because as soon as I set it off for the Eastern US (System damage 0 Major Flooding 54) it kept increasing flooding.

Got it there eventually like, but considering it was damaged at PH on the opening day of the war, getting it to the Eastern USA for Sept 1943 is a tad inconvenient



I thought that might be the case! Many thanks.

Off to Bombay it is!

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 2:35:20 PM   
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Does she head northwest towards Mombasa or along the coast to Bombay and the removal of some of the system damage?



I think you had good die rolls for the full speed run to Mangalore. It is unlikely you would get a whole series of them in a row for a run to Mombasa/Cape Town. For that reason I would move to Bombay and remove all the system damage first. There is no great rush to get the ship off-map, unless you fear KB making a coastal sweep. I think that is unlikely given how you have bled KB already.

If you do move NW to get out of the area before subs stake out Indian ports, you do not have to go to Mombasa first. When your TF is at the map's edge you can set it to go directly to Cape Town and it will still exit the map quickly before going the calculated distance south to CT.


Disbanding in Managalore for a turn or two...as we build up aerial search from Goa and send out some ASW patrols.

Don't you still take damage going from on map to off map base? That might make the Cape Town run more dangerous?


Yup, have lost a couple that way.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 10:04:25 PM   
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Hold again...will start the weakest unit moving out in reserve no pursuit...being bombed daily. Ankang getting bombed. Lost 5 transports flying in some jungle guns, but we got 14 there...

Need to hold at least one more day...but better would be four.

33rd Division in Australia had 200+ combat squads destroyed today.




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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/15/2021 10:17:59 PM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 12:39:06 AM   
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No attack on the Ankang road today...

Cleanup in Australia...




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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 12:41:04 AM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 12:48:56 AM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		China...would like to get more of my blocking troops rotated out on the Ankang road...probably won't though as Japan is seriously bombing them...I put the weakest Corp in reserve mode and had them march out...they seem to attract a lot of bombers attention while the combat dug in troops have 4 Fatigue and 0 disruption...










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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 12:56:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice Job at Bundaberg! You set out to trap and destroy 33rd Division and did so in short order.
If the Japanese really are withdrawing, that will be the earliest retreat of their opening wave that I have seen.

It appears your opponent is thinking too much on what he plans to do and not considering what you could do to him. That leads to too many "all in" offensive moves when there are indications to fortify in place or withdraw.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 1:02:32 AM   
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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 1:20:40 AM   
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Nice Job at Bundaberg! You set out to trap and destroy 33rd Division and did so in short order.
If the Japanese really are withdrawing, that will be the earliest retreat of their opening wave that I have seen.

It appears your opponent is thinking too much on what he plans to do and not considering what you could do to him. That leads to too many "all in" offensive moves when there are indications to fortify in place or withdraw.


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Yes, very nicely done.
A suggestion, lay minefields not actually at Townsville but the opening through the Great Barrier Reef to get to the open sea.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 1:49:35 AM   
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Nice Job at Bundaberg! You set out to trap and destroy 33rd Division and did so in short order.
If the Japanese really are withdrawing, that will be the earliest retreat of their opening wave that I have seen.

It appears your opponent is thinking too much on what he plans to do and not considering what you could do to him. That leads to too many "all in" offensive moves when there are indications to fortify in place or withdraw.


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Yes, very nicely done.
A suggestion, lay minefields not actually at Townsville but the opening through the Great Barrier Reef to get to the open sea.


I have laid minefield there already...got swept after a day. I have stung Japan with quite a few mine hits, and they are pretty diligent now.



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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 2:01:33 AM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Have to keep pressuring Japan...close to 3K AV at Calcutta...some of it will move out and start pressuring northern Burma. Japan has recon on two bases so they will see us coming...

Lot easier I think to take this ground now, while Japan is still invested in Luzon/Singers/Australia/China/Ceylon. It can be a real bear to move here once China falls especially if Japan moves the IJA Tank Divisions here.








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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 6:36:02 AM   
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Just had my California brother out visiting for the last 10 days....doing super well after heart surgery. He walked 5 miles at an Arboretum for example!

Thanks for everyones' wellwishes.

Took him back to the airport this am.


Excellent news!

Cheers,
CB

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 1:30:58 PM   
Lowpe


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Caught, but our incredible ASW scores one direct hit and numerous other close hits...






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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 1:37:24 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Sweeps over retreating forces in Australia score...

Still don't like my pesky op losses shipping supplies to China.




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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 1:41:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just a bombardment attack on the Ankang road...

Chengtu HI failed yesterday and today...not good.

We are fluctuating between 20-22K supply in China. All building is off, all reinforcements is off.






Look at the off road movement near Ankgang...1 Div + 2 Bde, plus more moving off road.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 1:51:19 PM   
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One Command HQ prepping for Townsville, another for Darwin.

Lack of bombers we will get aggressive again with our tanks...






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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/16/2021 5:30:45 PM   
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https://www.historynet.com/salvation-hump-wwii.htm

An interesting article.

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/17/2021 10:58:43 AM   
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Held another day...but the end is close for these guys.

Ground combat at 83,45 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28777 troops, 268 guns, 588 vehicles, Assault Value = 989

Defending force 26547 troops, 146 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 244

Japanese adjusted assault: 568

Allied adjusted defense: 589

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
184 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 36 (4 destroyed, 32 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1157 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 163 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Regiment
40th Division
10th Tank Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
36th Division
9th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
13th Army
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
30th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps
77th Chinese Corps




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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/17/2021 11:18:57 AM   
Lowpe


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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/17/2021 1:00:15 PM   
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The KB goes hunting submarines.






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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/17/2021 1:03:42 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		First Ankang road festung broken...I managed to retreat 2 of the 4 Corp in good order, of the remaining two one was in resrve no pursuit mode moving out, and the other was rearguard. Hopefully the rear guard took the brunt of the losses. Looking at the lost guns, I think this is the case.

No tanks were in pursuit mode...and the big worry is not overstacking the next hex too much....and of course getting supplies in.

The big challenge is getting the next festung to hold and prevent a snowball effect up the Ankang road.

Ground combat at 83,45 (near Nanyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28614 troops, 268 guns, 584 vehicles, Assault Value = 960

Defending force 20980 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 114

Japanese adjusted assault: 736

Allied adjusted defense: 280

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 26 (2 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
7921 casualties reported
Squads: 304 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 242 destroyed, 49 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 26 (20 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
13th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
40th Division
10th Tank Regiment
36th Division
15th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
13th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
11th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
30th Chinese Corps
41st Chinese Corps






218 supplies delivered to China today

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/17/2021 1:16:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		A fragment, good sized, of the 65th Brigade gets rounded up by our Matildas and Stuarts. All of a sudden I have 80 Matildas in the pools, 60 Valentines, 30 Lee/Grants and 20 or so Stuarts (Commonwealth).

The Valentines go to Burma and I can't figure out how to get each Australian unit Matildas from the pools, and not Stuarts which are needed in Burma other than selectively turning off and on replacements and stockpiling.

No sinking sounds, so I believe our R Class BB made Bombay and disbanded, while the damaged Canberra oh so long ago (Feb 8th) at Brisbane (and acted as a magnet to bleed IJ air power since then) will be one day away from Sydney (she has 64 flood).

Of our nasty naval clashes with IJN off Bundaberg...all but one ship is now fully repaired. Pensacola will take a little longer and she is at drydock in Sydney. Our fuel situation in Australia has improved, but made the decision to fuel the submarines over the Cruiser/DD sags...and with the KB here can't be too adventurous.










Ground combat at 94,149 (near Bowen)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3486 troops, 143 guns, 495 vehicles, Assault Value = 1517

Defending force 1420 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied adjusted assault: 158

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 158 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
994 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 186 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
3rd Motor Brigade
41st Infantry Division
2nd Australian Division
2/9th Armoured Regiment
132nd Infantry Regiment
30th Australian Brigade
193rd Tank Battalion
182nd Infantry Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
2/7th Armoured Regiment
13th Australian Brigade
2/6th Armoured Regiment
6th Aus Cav Brigade
97th Coast AA Regiment
2/16th Field Regiment
2nd Medium Regiment
108th Anti Tank Regiment
I Australian Corps
1st Medium Regiment
21/22 Field Regiment

Defending units:
65th Bde /14

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/17/2021 2:46:41 PM   
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The KB floating around in the middle of the Coral Sea is doing exactly what you want it to do

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RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) - 7/17/2021 3:26:49 PM   
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A fragment, good sized, of the 65th Brigade gets rounded up by our Matildas and Stuarts. All of a sudden I have 80 Matildas in the pools, 60 Valentines, 30 Lee/Grants and 20 or so Stuarts (Commonwealth).

The Valentines go to Burma and I can't figure out how to get each Australian unit Matildas from the pools, and not Stuarts which are needed in Burma other than selectively turning off and on replacements and stockpiling.


Use tracker to look at those Devices and their upgrade paths. It will help to sort by name so that different devices with identical names show up. In those cases you can figure out which units has which by clicking on Pool History.

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