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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/17/2020 12:04:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		The mathematics of escorts on a hex grid favors concentration of forces. To cover all possible attack angles:

Carriers Escorts
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1...........6
2...........8
3...........9
4...........10
5...........11
6...........12
7...........12
8...........13

I typically later in the war use the latter formation. Over at the War in the Pacific board they call that a Death Star.

I may be rezzing my Pacific Map (since the amount of work needed for that map is much less than for the 20K Euro map that I've been slaving on for 5 months now). Since the scale is ~50% finer than the vanilla world map, I'll be able to have LOTS more ships.

[Saw your newest posts] It can indeed be a struggle to find supply for units on jungle islands.

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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/17/2020 1:47:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elessar2

The mathematics of escorts on a hex grid favors concentration of forces. To cover all possible attack angles:

Carriers Escorts
-----------------
1...........6
2...........8
3...........9
4...........10
5...........11
6...........12
7...........12
8...........13

I typically later in the war use the latter formation. Over at the War in the Pacific board they call that a Death Star.

I may be rezzing my Pacific Map (since the amount of work needed for that map is much less than for the 20K Euro map that I've been slaving on for 5 months now). Since the scale is ~50% finer than the vanilla world map, I'll be able to have LOTS more ships.

[Saw your newest posts] It can indeed be a struggle to find supply for units on jungle islands.
Thanks!


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I may be rezzing my Pacific Map (since the amount of work needed for that map is much less than for the 20K Euro map that I've been slaving on for 5 months now).
You must be a man of infinite patience. I admire your grit!

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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:32:07 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:33:28 PM   
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1. U-30 & U-37 finally make it back to port for reinforcement, upgrade and well deserved leave for the crews.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:34:12 PM   
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1. U-boats sank 47 MPPs headed to Russia last turn.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:35:39 PM   
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1. U-boats and Italian subs sank 30 MPPs headed to the UK last turn.
2. With U-30 & U-37 in port, it's up to the two Italian subs next turn to sink convoys headed to the UK.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:37:07 PM   
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1. The Italian garrison in Rhodes still holding strong.
2. No losses (also) taken last turn.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:37:55 PM   
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1. One Italian garrison lost 2-steps but was reinforced back to full strength.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:38:24 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:38:46 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:39:12 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:40:44 PM   
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1. German added a corps and two corps, all three with full upgrades, to their production queue.
2. Japan and Italy built no additional units.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:41:17 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:41:40 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:42:05 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 7:43:11 PM   
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1. I meant to capture national morale for all three axis but ended the turn (i.e., I forgot).




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/18/2020 9:27:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Elessar2

The mathematics of escorts on a hex grid favors concentration of forces. To cover all possible attack angles:

Carriers Escorts
-----------------
1...........6
2...........8
3...........9
4...........10
5...........11
6...........12
7...........12
8...........13

I typically later in the war use the latter formation. Over at the War in the Pacific board they call that a Death Star.



I'm still terrible with navies. I was wondering with the Death Star (good name), do you group the ships in a tight knot or do you keep a certain amount of space between ships? Is it better to have destroyers on the outer edge or capital ships?

Thanks for your help Elessar.
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 1:24:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tight as possible, which also reduces their liability to be spotted.

While historically the task force would lead with destroyers, you can do that while just cruising towards objectives (to sweep up any subs you encounter), but when you expect a major engagement the battlewagons have to go to the fore. Timing is everything when it comes to carrier battles; you can't be the guy who stuck his neck out prematurely, but you also can't always be too passive either and just wait for the enemy to appear.

If I start work on the Pacific map it will at that scale make it even harder to find task forces.

It was likely a mistake to abort your drive on the Caucasus oil-there's really nothing of worth to be captured in the SE portion of Russia. You're also going to find your supply will be low in the swamps and forest SE of Leningrad-better to just charge your best units up that road S of the city and cut it off at Lake Ladoga.

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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 4:19:49 AM   
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Tight as possible, which also reduces their liability to be spotted.

While historically the task force would lead with destroyers, you can do that while just cruising towards objectives (to sweep up any subs you encounter), but when you expect a major engagement the battlewagons have to go to the fore. Timing is everything when it comes to carrier battles; you can't be the guy who stuck his neck out prematurely, but you also can't always be too passive either and just wait for the enemy to appear.



Thank you for the advice.

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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 4:13:46 PM   
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It was likely a mistake to abort your drive on the Caucasus oil-there's really nothing of worth to be captured in the SE portion of Russia. You're also going to find your supply will be low in the swamps and forest SE of Leningrad-better to just charge your best units up that road S of the city and cut it off at Lake Ladoga.
Yeah ... I can see that now. I have a feeling that I may be approaching my zenith, if not already.

I curious to see the particulars of the axis collapse, which I'm sure will/is hastened by my novice play.


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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:26:41 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:27:16 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:28:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 79. Axis. August 28, 1942. Battle of the Atlantic. Murmansk Convoys.

1. U-boats sink 30 MPPs headed to Russia.
2. They also tangle with 2 RN DD squadrons and, I think, came out on the losing end.
3. U-boats attacking the Murmansk convoys are starting to look a bit tattered.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:30:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 79. Axis. August 28, 1942. Battle of the Atlantic. Italian Subs.

1. Italian subs managed to sink 10 MPPs headed to the UK.
2. However, the Axum became the focus of an intense effort by the RN & RCN and is now fighting for its survival.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:33:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 79. Axis. August 28, 1942. Western Front & German U-boats in Port..

1. Made two tactical errors here ...
2. Forgot to upgrade/reinforce either of U-30 or U-37.
3. Worse, after making the "original" screen cap which had U-37 in port at Brest, when I returned to the game I had U-37 (pre)selected and accidentally moved him out to sea!
4. I take that there was a training crew on-board that sailed from port without orders!
5. Gross Adm Donitz is not pleased.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:34:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 79. Axis. August 28, 1942. East Africa. End of Turn.

1. 2nd garrison (in Mekelle) was knocked down to 2-steps during my opponents turn and was reinforced back to 5 during mine (this turn).




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:35:27 PM   
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1. The Italian garrison on Rhodes still holding strong.




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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:35:58 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:36:19 PM   
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RE: It Takes A Village to Raze a Village - 11/19/2020 5:37:27 PM   
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1. I was baffled by this ... my opponent transport the Soviet garrison that's been holding Sevastopol out and left me the city for my taking.
2. Baffled but grateful.




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