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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 11/24/2020 6:50:54 PM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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ORIGINAL: toenailthehun

Help needed please

I have downloaded the 785mb file a couple of times now.
I extract it into a new World in Flames Folder on my C: drive
No problem running the extracted file which installs in the new World in Flames Folder.

But double clicking on either autorun or MWIF program brings up this window
User Account Control see post#13

Which always shows up whenever a new version loads, but selecting Yes does nothing Game does not load?
Anyone have any help to offer?

Try contacting Matrix customer support. This problem seems to be external to the program/game code.

The support group is much better informed about these kinds of problems, since they could occur in any of their games, not just World in Flames.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/2/2020 4:26:01 PM   
Omnius


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Status: offline 		Just downloaded and installed 4.02.00.00 ad it worked like a charm. Also did the 4.02.01 update as well without fuss.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/10/2020 11:11:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I used the member area to DL. I ran the installer. At end of install the "launcher" was still running but I couldn't bring it up on my screen - when I tried to alt-tab to it nothing showed up and it was still running in task manager. Eventually I just killed the task.

But when I try to run mwif.exe I get the windows user account control message asking me if I want to allow this app to make changes to my device even if I run as admin. Also when I try to check for updates I get this:





Then when I try to run the game as admin nothing happens, the process somehow dies and doesn't show up in task manager even when I try to run mwif.exe as admin.

Am I doing something wrong?

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/10/2020 6:00:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't know about the access control message as I thought I'd read here that Matrix had fixed that. But otherwise it sounds like parts of your install are not in the same directory as where the game was before.

Check your disk drive for the "\Matrix Games\World in Flames" directory. You can try launching MWIF.EXE by double clicking on it in that directory and then you can see what version of the game that is. Likewise you can launch update.exe from there. Also a windows search for MWIF.EXE should reveal if it is installed in more than one directory. You can also check the properties of your desktop icon for MWIF and see what the target directory is.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/12/2020 1:21:06 PM   
jjdenver

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks pauldernyck.

I have many versions of wif installed. I have a \Matrix Games\World in Flames directory under the directory shown in screenshot here (D:\Program Files (x86)\Matrix Games\World in Flames) and I also at D:\Matrix Games\World in Flames

The game installer seems to be pointing at the former install. The latter install is an older version from 2018.

Shouldn't the installer version have the full install avail there? Is there something in the registry pointing somewhere else? I thought that WIF install was basically dependent on the directory where mwif.exe is?




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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/12/2020 5:40:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		As far as I know, MWIF does not register anything. Personally I have always avoided the Program Files location. I suggest trying the install fresh and specifying the latter directory. Prior to that you could rename it to D:\Matrix Games\World in Flames Backup and may as well delete the folder in Program Files (x86).

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/13/2020 12:20:11 PM   
jjdenver

 

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Status: offline 		The installer says I already have 4.02 installed at the location I mentioned above. The installer does not give me any options to specify a new location - instead it just chooses that location for me when I try to continue with the install after the message mentioned in the pic in this post. I'd love to be able to specify my install directory and try a fresh install since disk space is not an issue for me.


Any idea how to proceed?

Btw, when I try to use mwif.exe from that folder mentioned above nothing happens as I mentioned above.




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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/13/2020 6:53:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can we install 4.0.2 over 3.0.2 or fresh install from discs or do patches since 3.0.2 need to be added before going to 4? Etc.

Thanks. I stayed with 3.02 because it worked pretty well on production planning only issue was air to air combat dialogue box would sometimes be covered and could not move to next round.


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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/13/2020 6:54:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also what happens with 4.0.2 to mods like Kakhi in Flames to counter colors, maps or extra units or unit changes etc?

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/14/2020 10:18:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jjdenver

The installer says I already have 4.02 installed at the location I mentioned above. The installer does not give me any options to specify a new location - instead it just chooses that location for me when I try to continue with the install after the message mentioned in the pic in this post. I'd love to be able to specify my install directory and try a fresh install since disk space is not an issue for me.


Any idea how to proceed?

Btw, when I try to use mwif.exe from that folder mentioned above nothing happens as I mentioned above.




I suspect your problem is due to having several installs. I know version 4 installs new files and the EXE but it needs a lot of the old files as well. I don't want to lead you astray, so I suggest you contact Matrix Support.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/20/2020 11:31:37 PM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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ORIGINAL: TrogusP96

Also what happens with 4.0.2 to mods like Kakhi in Flames to counter colors, maps or extra units or unit changes etc?

The changes for version 04.02.00.00 should not affect those mods.

EDIT: the version number was incorrect.

< Message edited by Shannon V. OKeets -- 12/23/2020 7:30:35 PM >

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/24/2020 12:03:04 AM   
Joseignacio


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Status: offline 		Is it safe now to use the 04.02 beta after the hot patches, and all? I mean, it's a beta, sounds experimental...

If it is, can we go on with games started in previous versions?

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/24/2020 3:20:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

Is it safe now to use the 04.02 beta after the hot patches, and all? I mean, it's a beta, sounds experimental...

If it is, can we go on with games started in previous versions?

Yes, it is reasonably safe by this time. It is been out a while. IIRC, the main reason for the full version number upgrade was a change to a different version of the compiler. For a while, that inevitably caused problems. Those have, we think, all been sorted out by now.
And this version fixes a fair number of bugs in the earlier release.

Yes, you can use it on previous versions. All versions of MWiF are fully backward compatable. Any version of MWiF will run any save made by an earlier version.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/24/2020 10:50:32 AM   
Joseignacio


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Status: offline 		ok, thanks, if my opponent agrees, we'll upgrade. Merry Christmas, all.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/26/2020 12:41:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tried to install KiF mod with this beta. The mod requires replacing 2 CSV files in the Map Data folder. Will that cause a problem with the beta? I'm not sure what the map data files are used for but I seem to recall that there was some update to those files made in a previous release - maybe a 3.x release, so will over-writing them with very old KiF map data .csv files cause a problem? ty.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/26/2020 4:42:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jjdenver

I tried to install KiF mod with this beta. The mod requires replacing 2 CSV files in the Map Data folder. Will that cause a problem with the beta? I'm not sure what the map data files are used for but I seem to recall that there was some update to those files made in a previous release - maybe a 3.x release, so will over-writing them with very old KiF map data .csv files cause a problem? ty.
I've successfully installed the mod. I think I had to reinstall it after last official release (can't remember version)?

My recommendation, and what I did, was to backup of all files to be "replaced". I did this by creating backup folders and moving the files to be replaced in those folders.





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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 12/30/2020 5:58:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Steve, I managed to get 4.02.00.00 to work by doing a complete reinstall. Some things I discovered that may be of help to others.

1. After copying my saved games, I tried reinstalling from the original disk to save on downloads/time. Although I got version 1 of the game, I had trouble updating it, so I ended up downloading MWiF from the My Games page or whatever it's called. This process could be tricky for newbies, because it's in two parts and the installation stops and requests the second part, which you have to extract and tell it where it is.

2. For me, the game only seems to like being in the folder it wants on my C drive. Whilst in ran fine on my F drive, it wouldn't update to 4.02.00.00


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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 1/2/2021 7:48:25 PM   
Joseignacio


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ORIGINAL: Twisted1

I need help. Any ideas?

Also, the last version I have is 2.9.5. It will not up date beyond that.

Thanks!



Same problem here, just i have 3.02


What is the problem?




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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 1/3/2021 12:34:59 AM   
Joseignacio


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Status: offline 		Well, I have two installations, one in my desktop and andother in my laptop for when I travel or need to be away from the room I share with my wife for gaming and work...

In the laptop everything went fine.

So the problem in my desktop need to be related somehow with the changes I had in it, windows new installation, a new SSD now called C:... even though I tried in the new route E:\... and moved the folder to c:\... it seems somehow it may have affected the recognition of the location or the register by the installer.

It did not appear, logically, in the apps record in the new windows, although this was no problem for other games to work.

I am explaining in case someone else has gone through similar matters and this might have affected them.

Edit: New installation and it works now in the desktop too. I really hate reinstalling games because I always miss the CD and cannot find the password going through lots of emails and game boxes (and sometimes they are lost). It was an excellent idea to attach the CD to one of the books and have the Key on it.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 1/4/2021 6:49:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I´ve installed the v4.02 without problems but when i try update to MWIF 04 02 01 02 a window tells me that "vclx260.bpl is not found" and "a new installation cocould solve the problem", but after two installations the problem remains.

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 1/8/2021 9:12:29 PM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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ORIGINAL: Andres71

I´ve installed the v4.02 without problems but when i try update to MWIF 04 02 01 02 a window tells me that "vclx260.bpl is not found" and "a new installation cocould solve the problem", but after two installations the problem remains.

All the 04.xx.xx.xx versions require installing additional bpl files. The first 04 version has those 10 files.



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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 1/8/2021 9:18:02 PM   
Joseignacio


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Status: offline 		Steve, I believe he forgot to write it here, although I think he did somewhere else, the problem was that he wasn't unzipping the new exe in the right folder I believe. Just so that you know (he is my opponent in the current game).

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RE: v04.02.00.00 Beta Available Now! - 1/8/2021 9:26:21 PM   
Shannon V. OKeets

 

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Steve, I believe he forgot to write it here, although I think he did somewhere else, the problem was that he wasn't unzipping the new exe in the right folder I believe. Just so that you know (he is my opponent in the current game).

Thank you for the update.

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