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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/25/2021 8:53:39 PM

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I take it you didn't do the radar upgrade in April for Shokaku and Zuikaku? I scour the upgrades to get all possible radar onto the KB asap.

You need to really stuff you TFs to get some decent AA on them, you might have been better off just having one task force.

What were your CAP fighter settings? Japan plays much differently than does the Allies here, I think.

I saw that there are 2 Japanese carrier upgrades coming up in June. If there were others in April, I missed them.

I use 60% CAP usually. I've had success with that for years. Looking at this fight, a higher percentage may have worked better. I still like the ratio I used for CAP versus escorts. It's just that my advantage in number of fighters on CAP didn't help enough.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/25/2021 8:59:56 PM

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Probably June for the CV upgrades...

For IJN CV fights, I have found nothing works better than 100% CAP, 0 Range for Navy fighters. Maybe 90/10 rest 0 range if the chance of a CV fight isn't great but decent. Japan never seems to get the planes into the air fast enough and their flight controllers always screw up if allowed a range greater than 0.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/25/2021 9:25:02 PM

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Probably June for the CV upgrades...

For IJN CV fights, I have found nothing works better than 100% CAP, 0 Range for Navy fighters. Maybe 90/10 rest 0 range if the chance of a CV fight isn't great but decent. Japan never seems to get the planes into the air fast enough and their flight controllers always screw up if allowed a range greater than 0.

Since I plan on another carrier battle as soon as possible, I'll keep that setting in mind. It is a logical choice when you expect a big battle that day.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/27/2021 2:16:46 AM

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22 May 42

Kaga moved a few hexes towards Noumea during the night, and sank. Expected but still discouraging. 12 Vals went down with the ship, so OPilot knows that it sank. All pilots were removed before the sinking. Kaga's air fragments were disbanded at land bases, and the units were purchased and will appear in Tokyo in the months to come. I think that it is worth the cost, even if the units do only training. I'll decide later what to do with them.

I-168 fired 4 torpedoes at Enterprise, and all missed. During the night phase, enemy task forces were seen moving away from Norfolk Island. Some went towards Wellington, others went towards Sydney or Melbourne. Nothing went towards Auckland. OPilot has a damaged carrier that is probably going to Sydney, sooner or later.

North of Wellington a few hexes, I've had a line of 4 subs waiting. Task forces had moved at high speed away from the carrier battle and ended up on 2 of my subs. I-6 fired 2 torpedoes at destroyer Bagley and missed. Cruiser Chicago was spotted, with other destroyers.

I-22 then fired 6 torpedoes at destroyer Dale, but missed. Right place with the subs, just nothing to show for it. Except intel.

40 Sallys bombed refineries at Sian but didn't hit any in moderate rain.

Mandalay was captured. 2 divisions will head north to push the enemy towards India and to relieve the paras at Katha.

Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12618 troops, 179 guns, 128 vehicles, Assault Value = 772

Defending force 5056 troops, 28 guns, 55 vehicles, Assault Value = 165

Japanese adjusted assault: 239

Allied adjusted defense: 43

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mandalay !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
273 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1477 casualties reported
Squads: 53 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 97 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (12 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 30 (30 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
21st Division
2nd Division
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion

Defending units:
44th Indian Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
106th RAF Base Force

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/27/2021 6:23:20 PM

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Catalinas at Koepang are causing problems over Dili. 2 Cats attacked an APD with troops aboard at Dili. The Cats got 2 bomb hits on APD Okikaze in severe storms. Koepang's airbase is heavily damaged, and the base is at least low on supply, but that hasn't stopped the Cats, attacking at 1000 feet. In the afternoon, the 2 Cats came back and put another bomb into Okikaze, sinking the ship. There's an xAK there also, with men unloading. It wasn't spotted but I'm sure that it will be today.

I moved 9 Zeros from Java to Dili, and am starting to fly in a small base support unit. APDs are forming up at Kendari to do a fast transport run into Dili with supply. Troops are preparing at Kendari for Koepang and Darwin, but they need higher preparation values, so it'll be some time before they go.

I've used Catalinas for torpedo bombing, even at night, but I've not used them for conventional bombing. These guys are very successful.

I guessed right at Prome. I have Nells based there, doing search, but never had any fighters there. I moved the Nells out and move Oscars in, and now 49 Blens attacked the airfield. 14 Blens were shot down, although 35 bombers were able to drop their bombs, doing moderate base damage in overcast conditions.

Melak in the interior of Burma near Balikpapan was captured. All bases on Burma are now in Japanese hands. There's still a couple of small Dutch units between Melak and Balikpapan, and another two southwest of Tarakan. They will be hunted down and eliminated. Can't have them pop out of the jungle somewhere and take a minimally defended base.

With the northern China diversion offensive underway, I'm seeing units leaving Chungking to the northeast. Units near Hanoi are close to being ready to start the offensive into China, but I want to give my diversion more time to draw the enemy to the north. I have time for this offensive. No need to rush.

Shokaku and Zuikaku were spotted southeast of Luganville. They are headed to Japan for their radar upgraded. The 3 carriers staying in the south were not spotted east of Koumac. They'll get to Belep Island today and take on planes and pilots and torpedoes. Fuel is scarce in the area, but the 3 carriers aren't in need of it right now.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/28/2021 2:29:26 AM

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I-25 missed xAK Talune with 4 torpedoes 5 or 6 hexes southwest of Norfolk Island. I'm not seeing more units, men, guns or tanks on the island, so this ship, and regularly seen APDs, are bringing in supply. I have figured out that the APDs are using the northernmost base in New Zealand to pick up the supply. Not using Auckland.

I-17 was sighted and attacked south of Ceylon. British destroyers hit the sub with a depth charge. Prince of Wales and Repulse are in this task force. I think these ships were in a separate task force from the British carriers recently seen moving around in the Indian Ocean. It looks like this task force, and maybe the unseen carrier task force, is heading back to Colombo. If they take a direct route, they'll run over 2 subs placed exactly in their way.

9 Zeros had been moved to Dili to protect the xAK there. Those 2 groups of those pesky 2 Catalinas showed up again to bomb the ship. The Zeros intercepted, but didn't get to the Cats. What? The Zeros were patrolling at 20000 feet, a holdover from when they were at Soerabaja. I neglected to give them a low CAP altitude to get to the Cats, which have been attacking at 1000 feet every day. So, the Cats got in and hit xAK Nanrei Maru, sinking the ship, along with part of the small infantry unit still aboard. Some troops did unload. This reinforcement of Dili was an attempt to get to the 20 garrison requirement. Now the units there will have to take on reinforcements to build up to that requirement. APDs will run supply in tonight.

S-46 sank AMc Uruppu Maru at Amchitka Island in the Aleutians.

The 3 carriers of KB that are remaining in the South Pacific took on torpedoes and replenished their sortie count. The squadrons can't take on replacement planes as they did so less than a week ago. These ships will loiter to the north of Belep for a few days, and hopefully remain unseen.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/28/2021 9:29:18 PM

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I-19 missed DE Starling with 2 torpedoes near Koggala. British carriers and combat task force spotted nearing Colombo.

Big bomber raid planned for Kunming. First of the war. Aiming for the airfield, which is a size 3. The "pull" of supply from Burma in this area is limited by the size of the base and forts, so damaging the base helps the supply war, slowing the construction. But with the enemy in the process of losing Burma, it is more important to damage the field to hinder supply being flown in from Ledo.

Sallys damaged some Cats at Koepang. Some retribution for yesterday.

Zeros at Port Moresby set LRCAP over Kokoda, and shot down a couple of transports dropping supplies there. I have one naval guard unit there, and another on the way. When the second gets there, we'll try to clean up Kokoda. There is no base there but there are probably forts. And mountains. An Australian brigade retreated to there. A decent sized unit for defense in the mountains, with or without supply.

The push in Burma continued. The 100th RAF Base Force was destroyed near Magwe. Other enemy units left the hex just in time. 2 Japanese divisions will attack to the north of Mandalay. 2 others will attack east to Lashio, and may head into China.

The 3 Japanese carriers north of Belep will head to Belep today, and hopefully take on planes. A Kate unit had transferred to Luganville, and it was able to take replacements, and I'm pretty sure that took replacements for all of the units at the same time last week, so the carrier units should get new planes.

Subchaser Ch 30 hit S-46 with 2 depth charges at Amchitka Island. The chaser will move a few hexes towards enemy bases, trying to catch the damaged sub on the way home, then will turn back to the west to meet up with an inbound AG near Attu.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/29/2021 4:18:07 AM

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Battleship Ise, 2 CLs and 4 DDs bombarded Portland Roads. The base had become a size 1 airfield. This should slow things for a bit. Moderate base damage and 111 non-combat squad casualties.

My surprise raid on Kunming was a surprise. Unfortunately, it didn't matter. A squadron of the Flying Tigers was there, flying H81s, and in training. Didn't matter that they were in training either. The Sallys were shot down in droves. 31 Sallys shot down, doing minor airbase damage. Recon shows about 25000 men there. The 9 Tojo unit will sweep Kunming today. Sallys will regroup at Bangkok.

Sallys bombed Koepang again, damaging more Catalinas. The airbase is badly damaged.

It's about time to start pushing east out of Vietnam into China. Paras will drop into the Chinese dot base in the mountains south of Kunming. No idea if there are enemy there. We'll find out today.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:36:34 PM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:37:15 PM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:38:09 PM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:38:54 PM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:39:30 PM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:40:11 PM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:41:02 PM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 6/30/2021 8:47:45 PM

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27 May 42 - Summary

I'm putting all of my eggs in one basket: China. I will defend the South Pacific with KB, still hoping to wipe out the US carriers. There are no divisions in the South Pacific. There is one division at Kendari prepping for Darwin. All division on Sumatra and Java have gone to China.

My plan is to take Nanning and move north, eventually taking the mountain region between Burma and China and forever cutting off supply to China. I'll decide later whether to try to take the capital or redistribute the divisions all over the Empire for defense.

The Japanese empire has just a shell of a defense. I know the risks of this. If OPilot is aggressive, he can move early and make big gains. I hope that KB will be able to dissuade him of this, and delay the inevitable counter-offensive. If I can get China out of supply, and total conquest of China becomes possible. The rewards of that could be great. I've not tried this strategy before, but I'm looking forward to the attempt, win or lose.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/1/2021 8:05:48 PM

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Destroyer Panther hit I-30 with a depth charge south of Ceylon. Not sure, but I think Panther is British. British DDs are rough for the subs. They start the war trained.

Grampus fired 2 torpedoes at badly damaged destroyer Murasame south of Guadalcanal. Torpedoes missed. Murasame is escorted by DD Kiku, and the task force is limping towards Tulagi. I've ordered the ships to Rabaul instead, hoping to avoid Grampus today.

Two big Oscar units swept Liuchow. They found about 12 P-40Es. 8 Warhawks were shot down, for the loss of 4 Oscars. A victory purely based on numbers. 8 Lilys bombed enemy troops at Liuchow, in clear terrain, and caused 94 casualties. 4 Warhawks intercepted but they didn't get to the bombers.

5 SB-IIIs with 11 H81s bombed Japanese paras at Mengtze, south of Kunming. No damage.

5 B-17Es bombed the airfield at Dili, but found 5 Zeros. 2 Fortresses were shot down and no base damage done.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/2/2021 1:46:21 AM

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Will be interesting to see how your China effort pans out - don't think I've seen another AAR with all the Southern HQ's IJA going into China! Looking forward to it.

also, as you're about 6 months in....can you show your aircraft and engine production status? And your R&D efforts as well. Curious what you're focusing on now and in the future.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/2/2021 2:27:28 AM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/2/2021 2:27:58 AM

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/2/2021 3:45:33 PM

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Thanks apbarog - PDU off is challenging, eh? Doing same, and like you, learning as I go....and probably making plenty of mistakes along the way. The biggest surprise I see from your efforts is that you're not focusing alot on the Oscar line - which you have plenty squadrons of, and many needing to go through a few Oscar upgrades before upgrading to the Frank. Getting that Oscar IIb with armor to me is a priority.

Will stay tuned in!

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/3/2021 12:02:54 AM

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Thanks apbarog - PDU off is challenging, eh? Doing same, and like you, learning as I go....and probably making plenty of mistakes along the way. The biggest surprise I see from your efforts is that you're not focusing alot on the Oscar line - which you have plenty squadrons of, and many needing to go through a few Oscar upgrades before upgrading to the Frank. Getting that Oscar IIb with armor to me is a priority.

Will stay tuned in!

Thanks for the advice IdahoNYer. I've done a pretty good job with planning my research looking at the next upgrades for aircraft. But it's harder to plan for upgrades multiple steps down the road with PDU OFF. I hadn't noticed how many Oscar units go to the IIb. I've now drastically increased my research for it. I wouldn't have gone so big on the Frank if I had figured out that I'd have all the IIb's upgrading to Franks later. So now I'm going REALLY big on Franks, eventually. I've upped my engine research to compensate also.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/3/2021 12:04:23 AM

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B-26s in the Aleutians bombed Adak Island, doing very minor damage.

In the far north of China, the enemy is eliminated, opening up the long trail to the west. It's generally better to not eliminate an already defeated Chinese corps. An eliminated one will respawn in the capital. A surviving one will take extra supply to grow. But no choice here. Have to use the trail.

Ground combat at 89,31 (near Paotow)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 35916 troops, 271 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 1091

Defending force 1976 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 858

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 858 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2608 casualties reported
Squads: 79 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 120 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
22nd Division
68th Division
20th Recon Regiment
116th Division
12th Army
16th Field AA Machinecannon Company

Defending units:
81st Chinese Corps

The push to Nanning is on.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/3/2021 5:29:57 AM

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But it's harder to plan for upgrades multiple steps down the road with PDU OFF. I hadn't noticed how many Oscar units go to the IIb.
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That's a heck of an understatement with PDU-off....its certainly a learning CLIFF!!!! Even with Tracker....
But what I've read in the AARs of folks foolish enough to try PDU-off (the Few), focusing on the Zero and Oscar lines are the main focus of the R&D.

My goal is just not to crash the economy before '45!

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/3/2021 2:33:27 PM

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Oscars at 30000 swept Ramree and found 4 Hurricanes at 15000, on a ranged CAP from Akyab probably. 3 Oscars shot down and 1 Hurricane. But the Oscars cleared the skies for bombers that hit the enemy base force there. 1/3 of a Thai division crossed into Ramree but surprisingly, no shock attack occurred. Thought there was a river crossing there. The Thai will attack today.

Shwebo was captured, and the move north through Burma continues.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/3/2021 6:58:14 PM

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Big attack at Nanning, with more Chinese there than expected. The fight is bloody but I think a re-attack today will take the base. Some disruption for the Japanese infantry from the river crossing. 2 of the 3 Japanese divisions don't have quite enough supply, so transports will try to drop supply to them. Quickly taking the base would be helpful for moving on more quickly, before the Chinese can all get into better defensive positions. The plan is to go north after going east initially, but OPilot doesn't know that yet. He has to worry about a move to try and flank the urban areas around Changsha.

Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 35458 troops, 329 guns, 519 vehicles, Assault Value = 1172

Defending force 31167 troops, 155 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 798

Japanese adjusted assault: 1047

Allied adjusted defense: 691

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2071 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 160 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 33 disabled
Engineers: 31 destroyed, 33 disabled
Vehicles lost 20 (4 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2014 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 263 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 62 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 48 (1 destroyed, 47 disabled)

Assaulting units:
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
5th Ind Engineer Regiment
14th Division
9th Tank Regiment
4th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
10th Tank Regiment
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
16th Army
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
62nd Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
64th Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
35th Group Army
16th Group Army
9th Chinese Base Force

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/4/2021 5:38:29 AM

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Portland Roads swept by Zeros from Port Moresby. No CAP. Bombers did light damage to the airfield.

Fighters sweep and LRCAP Nanning. No enemy in the air. Bombers hit the troops in wooded terrain. Should have hit the airfield.

Japanese troops shock attack at Nanning. Not sure how that happened. I thought I'd set all for a deliberate attack. The Imperial Guard Division did move into the hex, in move mode, but through the same hexside as the whole stack had already entered. I did drop supply to my troops. Had to have accidentally set a unit for it, I guess. The bad news is that the fort that was reduced to 0 yesterday was rebuilt and reduced to 0 again today.

Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 33096 troops, 329 guns, 512 vehicles, Assault Value = 1447

Defending force 29254 troops, 154 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 609

Japanese adjusted assault: 539

Allied adjusted defense: 371

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
764 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 62 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (2 destroyed, 40 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1634 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 153 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 46 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Assaulting units:
3rd Tank Regiment
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
14th Division
9th Tank Regiment
23rd Tank Regiment
4th Division
Imperial Guards Division
10th Tank Regiment
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
16th Army
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Ind Engineer Regiment
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
64th Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
35th Group Army
16th Group Army
9th Chinese Base Force

Disruption is mounting, but with a reinforcing division that did not participate today, I think the base may fall. Bombers will hit the airfield today just in case this drags on. Enemy movement is seen towards Nanning from the woods to the southeast. It is a shame that most of those troops are the ones that escaped being bagged in southern China in the opening advances. Could have made a difference here. I need to take Nanning and then move east, to take the next base east, in clear terrain, then wheel to the north, while leaving adequate defenses.

Another oversight spotted in my aircraft research. There will be lots of Zeros needing A6M3As in the future. Since the A6M2 factories don't upgrade to 3As, I need to get some up and running now. A big investment of 90 factories is ordered.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/7/2021 12:35:18 AM

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Oscars swept Nanning and found no enemy fighters. They are at nearby bases though. Lilys and Sallys bombed Nanning and enemy troops there.

Third attack in three days at Nanning.

Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42382 troops, 401 guns, 550 vehicles, Assault Value = 1380

Defending force 28050 troops, 154 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 501

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 537

Allied adjusted defense: 535

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1638 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 168 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Vehicles lost 31 (4 destroyed, 27 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1073 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 86 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 19 (3 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Our disruption is getting too high, and the trend is against us. Forts have been reduced from 1 to 0 in all three attacks. Some damage was done to the airbase today, so hopefully fort building won't occur. 3 fresh divisions are less than a week from Nanning. I had hoped that they would be the exploitation forces to move north after Nanning fell, but now it's looking like they will replace divisions at Nanning. And there are enemy troops on the way towards Nanning from the east.

My offensive could become a grind instead of a sprint to the north after taking Nanning. A grind favors the Japanese also, though, in the long run. I am determined to run the Chinese out of supply. Nanning has remained in supply so far.

Paras will drop on Mengtze in China, north of Kunming. It is very unlikely that 40+ transports will drop enough paras to take the base, even minimally defended. It is a mountain base that will have forts. But the possible reward justifies the risk. More paras at Mandalay are ready.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/7/2021 10:09:03 PM

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Paras drop at Tsuyung (not Mengtze, as I said yesterday). Supporting bombers didn't fly. Defenders are not a base force after all. A weak division, but a division. Paras aren't hurt much but are out of supply. Not dropping supply today, but will try later. Being just 2 hexes from Kunming, I can bet there will be P-40s over Tsuyung today.

Instead, another para unit will drop on Pakhoi, west of Tsuyung. Bettys ordered to support with bombs. There's just one enemy unit there also. Could be another weak division. I'll hope that it is a base force. No matter what happens to the paras, we're raising the stress level in China.

New attack at Nanning ordered, after most units rest a day. Disruptions now max out around 20 instead of around 45. The enemy has to be hurting too. Bombers and fighters ordered in.

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RE: Deja Vu All Over Again - apbarog(J) vs OPilot(A) - 7/8/2021 8:28:02 PM

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32 Oscars swept Nanning, finding 14 P-40Es on LRCAP. The Flying Tigers did a bit better than the Oscars. 26 Sallys bombed, causing 100 casualties and a few runway hits, and 9 Tojos on LRCAP participated, fighting 5 or so Warhawks. The Tojo unit did well. This is the small experimental Tojo squadron.

Massive fighters commitment over Shwebo, where the Japanese stack was about to move north. Sweepers included 11 Hurricanes, 15 Hurricanes, 16 Hurricanes and 25 Warhawks. No Japanese CAP. 39 Blens then attacked the troops in clear terrain, causing 357 casualties. Then 15 more Hurricanes swept.

More Warhawks strafed the Japanese paras at Tsuyung. Then B-17s with H81s and B-25s bombed the troops, doing no damage in bad weather.

Total air losses were 5 Oscars while downing 7 P-40Es.

Finally, success at Nanning.

Ground combat at Nanning (72,55)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42048 troops, 401 guns, 561 vehicles, Assault Value = 1284

Defending force 27267 troops, 150 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 411

Japanese adjusted assault: 946

Allied adjusted defense: 309

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nanning !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
546 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8953 casualties reported
Squads: 312 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 402 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 60 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 31 (30 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
9th Tank Regiment
4th Division
23rd Tank Regiment
5th Ind Engineer Regiment
3rd Tank Regiment
14th Division
10th Tank Regiment
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
16th Army
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
Tonei Hvy Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
30th Field AA Machinecannon Company
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
64th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
52nd Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
35th Group Army
9th Chinese Base Force

The paras at Tsuyung won't last long.

Ground combat at Tsuyung (68,46)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1415 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Defending force 453 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Allied adjusted assault: 45

Japanese adjusted defense: 10

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd Reserve Division

Defending units:
Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1

Paras dropped at Paoshan, and found the 22nd New Chinese Division there. About the same enemy strength as at Tsuyung, so these paras will also be lost soon. It was worth a try, hoping for base force defense only. Parts of the para units did not drop, and will now move from Mandalay to Rangoon to start rebuilding when able.

HA-45 engines got accelerated again, up to 8/43. They will be the engine for the Franks, which come online on 1/44. I hope to move that date up a few months also, getting 500+ engines later in 1943, and allocating plenty of factories for Franks.

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