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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/12/2021 4:43:28 PM   
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Why do we need a pilot in the plane? Once you lose the pilot that's a ton of weight you can work with

Cylons is the way to go.

Or maybe Skynet.


Cylons looked quite heavy though.


A couple of them looked real nice.

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/12/2021 5:08:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is a good resource from someone that knows a lot more about it than any of us : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eUDF6ICE0s







< Message edited by tolsdorff -- 3/12/2021 5:11:38 PM >

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/12/2021 5:13:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is about a roller coaster? I just watched a little of it and I can't understand why a person would want to give a murderer pleasure while he is killed. Better they fear what is coming and not enjoy it.

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/12/2021 5:24:01 PM   
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That is about a roller coaster? I just watched a little of it and I can't understand why a person would want to give a murderer pleasure while he is killed. Better they fear what is coming and not enjoy it.


hahaha. just watched that as well.

Somewhere on his channel there is the video where he, an actual F-35 pilot that flew the F-16 for 6 years, talks about the negative attention the F-35 is getting. Corrected the link, thank you

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/12/2021 6:20:44 PM   
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Why do we need a pilot in the plane? Once you lose the pilot that's a ton of weight you can work with


Easy answer: MIC makes a TON of more profit on manned planes which are obsolete than unmanned planes.

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/12/2021 7:07:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		61 - I am guessing you have not spent a lot of time with computer programs. They have bugs. We will see manned aircraft for the rest of our lifetimes because a human can react whereas code can only 'follow the code'. And the pilot plus gear is likely only around 300 lbs. I guess if you add in ejection seat and supporting systems it comes closer to 1000 lbs.

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/12/2021 10:30:12 PM   
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Why do we need a pilot in the plane? Once you lose the pilot that's a ton of weight you can work with


Easy answer: MIC makes a TON of more profit on manned planes which are obsolete than unmanned planes.


Who is MIC?

Would you rather be flown in a plane with no pilot with unknown and possibly known bugs in the guidance system or a plane with a pilot? One of these supposedly safe driverless cars ran down a pedestrian even though the system detected the pedestrian and had more than enough time to stop.

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/13/2021 5:43:34 PM   
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I continue not to understand Rusty's rabid obsession with the F-35 being bad (allegedly).

My understanding of it was... it was never going to replace the F-16? Like, they fill entirely different roles.

The F-15 (or F-18) would be another matter, as air superiority craft. But I still think it's fairly obvious that this obsession is off point.


I think that I understand. Anything that the US does is bad, anything that the opponents of the US does is good.


Y'know, I think you might be onto something.

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/13/2021 5:44:07 PM   
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Why do we need a pilot in the plane? Once you lose the pilot that's a ton of weight you can work with


Easy answer: MIC makes a TON of more profit on manned planes which are obsolete than unmanned planes.


Who is MIC?

Would you rather be flown in a plane with no pilot with unknown and possibly known bugs in the guidance system or a plane with a pilot? One of these supposedly safe driverless cars ran down a pedestrian even though the system detected the pedestrian and had more than enough time to stop.

Hagel zum Harry!


MIC is something-speak for Military Industrial Complex. Get with the cult lingo, man!

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RE: OT: F35 can't replace F16/F15 despite its raison d... - 3/13/2021 5:51:12 PM   
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Hagel zum Harry!
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MIC is something-speak for Military Industrial Complex. Get with the cult lingo, man!
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Gen. Eisenhower was a cultist? Wow...thanks for sharing and denigrating an American war hero.

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