Slitherine

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Changelist for v1.08.04
-Added customization of Formation Types task to the Staff Council (!)*
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*=requires new game start [ ]

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ORIGINAL: newageofpower

Armies might be useful if scenario editor ever makes it in, but currently 99% of starts have too little world pop for it to make sense.

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ORIGINAL: BlueTemplar

Generally you probably want to put your beta feedback in the dedicated thread, I'm not even sure Vic even reads (or reads all) the messages in the "general" "sub"forum ?
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4824133

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1.) Are you *sure* you only need 200 ? It kind of seems like you need the full 500, but then (for buggies/APCs) you get 333 back to the SHQ ?
(And kind of weird to then see 33 recruits just "hanging out" in the SHQ (in Assets Management's Items report), and not being reported in the main screen...)

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2.) I think this only happens when a unit uses all 3 of fuel, ammo and energy, leading to 5 logistic categories on top of replacement and food ?

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5.) On top of the always there Planet Statistics and Agricultural Crops reports, the Planet Generation pages are already there depending with which setting for planet generation you started with. It *is* a shame though that you don't get to see them even after you win the game. (Even better would be to be able to slowly uncover this information as you explore the planet !)

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7.) Any examples of OOBs you don't see the benefit of ?

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9.) You don't *have* to completely fill out formations.
OTOH the problem with using only 2 (non-motorized) subunits is that you won't be able to do it manually
(you'll have to have the 3rd one to get killed somehow, or maybe shenanigans with obsolete models being recalled might work ?),
but especially : you're going to get an HP penalty in combat !

10.) See already above about the less than 3 subunits penalty.
Clearly what you're asking for is already in the game (but with 3 subunits instead of 2).
I'm more concerned about how using Regiments/Divisions is kind of an exploit to make these specialized units:
Why would I *really* bother with Battalion/Regiment Heavy OOBs (or unattached Independents) when I can achieve pretty much the same thing with "understaffed" Regiments/Divisions of the corresponding "Light" OOBs ?
(I guess at *some point* if I need really large specialized units I will *have* to get them, but so far I haven't even used Divisions for that yet...)

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I was livestreaming yesterday and was buying stacks of Buggy units (cheaper now to patrol borders than infantry for open terrain) and while the description stated that they needed 500 recruits it was only drawing 200 out of the pool with each purchase.

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(cheaper now to patrol borders than infantry for open terrain)

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No, the pages are not there. The summary page that lists the number of Minors and Xenos isn't carried through to the help file. And the auxiliary information pages showing the top life forms (with size, attack, defense, and competitive stats) as well as the evolution list don't carry through to the help files but are present during planet creation.

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I was trying to understand what you were referencing here and then realized you thought I meant the number of sub-units in a formation rather than the number of recruits across a formation. I'll change my OP to make this clearer. I was thinking that the first level should be about 40% of the current amount of recruits (same number of units in OHQs etc).

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- Not sure why we don't just have the final amount for the troops rather than needing to have the old full amount (eg, buying a buggy shows 500 recruits required yet only uses 200). I do like that with armoured cars you get about 4 turns worth of food now so if changing the recruit cost means reducing the food capacity then I'd prefer to have the less-intuitive recruit cost but with the food benefit.

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- I struggle to see the benefit of many of the OOBs. It seems to me it would be better to either have tangible benefits for having the combined arms or just drop the more convoluted forms and allow the player to manage the combined arms attacks on the field.

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Added customization of Formation Types task to the Staff Council (!)*

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- I'm finding I pretty much exclusively go for Brigade size formations and rarely opt for Corp size and never Army size. I'd suggest re-thinking the troop amounts across the board and have a smaller size option. -- EDIT TO CLARIFY: -- So a Battalion formation would be say 40% the size they are currently, Regiment units would be the same as the current Battalion units, and Division units would the size of the current Regiment units.
So when that extrapolates across to the formations with OHQ's, the overall troop and equipment components would be much smaller and individually they wouldn't be able to push back the extra hexes (so more like how Sentinels work in the game). Smaller formations of AT guns or AA guns may be able to be spread more easily to defend larger areas but with weaker effect.
Where this would break-down is with the more convoluted OOBs where there are small numbers of different units but if the OOBs were streamlined then that should still be able to work

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(And kind of weird to then see 33 recruits just "hanging out" in the SHQ (in Assets Management's Items report), and not being reported in the main screen...)

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ORIGINAL: Mercutio

I would like some way to edit an OOB to include a support unit. Whether it be anti-tank, AA, etc.