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- 8/22/2003 10:28:14 PM

RockinHarry

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[QUOTE=REMF]I haven't tried the "speed 0" solution, but I know when I did it with other units in the past they would often "repair" themselves and be able to move again. As a designer I have to switch all MMG's to HMG's (water-cooled) and then change weapons, etc., for the squad. The H2Hfr update wasn't supposed to impact older scenarios designed for H2H, but that's what's happening. For what it's worth, I intend to add "fr" to the name of scenarios I've designed with the update. As much as I like the fr version and applaud Panzer Leo's monumental efforts with H2H, I think the MMG situation has created more problems (from a design standpoint) than it's worth.[/QUOTE]

Well, I highly agree to Steve�s point of view. No wonder, it�s scenario makers (human vs. AI) point of view. :D

Maybe Panzer Leo adds the original common MMG�s to the norway or czech OOB, for use in human vs. AI designed user scenarios? That�s sort of stuff that I already contributed to V8.0 OOBs and we can do the same for H2H fr! ;) Make their availability December 1949 and don�t add formations, so that these units only can be added/replaced by scenario makers. This also helps keeping these units out of the AI picklist.;)

Well, scenario makers. Lets stick heads together! What do we need?
I�ll add common MMGs (MG34, MG42 ect.) and a loadable bunker/shelter that works better than the stuff we already have, is already added to my norway OOB (H2H fr). The solution simply is using "APC tracked" class. Other non-APC class drop their passengers when they take a hit by any ordnance!

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- 8/22/2003 11:09:22 PM

JimPY

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Joined: 5/11/2001
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[QUOTE=REMF]I haven't tried the "speed 0" solution, but I know when I did it with other units in the past they would often "repair" themselves and be able to move again. As a designer I have to switch all MMG's to HMG's (water-cooled) and then change weapons, etc., for the squad. The H2Hfr update wasn't supposed to impact older scenarios designed for H2H, but that's what's happening. For what it's worth, I intend to add "fr" to the name of scenarios I've designed with the update. As much as I like the fr version and applaud Panzer Leo's monumental efforts with H2H, I think the MMG situation has created more problems (from a design standpoint) than it's worth.[/QUOTE]

Dear REMF; Thank you for the info on which mg's to use. I have not had a chance to get very far into the scenario with the mg's at 0 speed. They are german mg42s. I only changed the standalone mg42 units since when I got into the scenario the first time they were the ones retreating off the map. You are probably right about some of them repairing themselves. I agree that the fr version is excellent, but the mg situation dure is worse than the disease. I hope that Panzer Leo changes it back.

Jim Yalem

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