Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Emx77

Guys, thank you for explanation. It make sense. However, that opens new questions. For example: Which of these two fighter bombers is having more chance to destroy 300mm Polymer plating monitor tank? In other words is it better to attack such tank with single 2325 hard attack or two 1056 hard attacks?

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During the attack resolution the game rolls a number from 0 to attack power for attacker and from 0 to hitpoints for defender and compares the two to determine if a hit was made.
The monitor in question can have different number of hitpoints depending on linear tech, design roll and various bonuses, but let's say it has 4K hard hitpoints.

If my calculations are correct at 1056 hard attack you have on average 13.2% chance to score a hit. Two attacks give you double that (yes, there are more complicated chances to hit both attacks or neither, but in the long run it averages out). A single 2325 hard attack should give you 29.1% chances of scoring a hit, which sounds better.
Also I doubt that's all there is to it since there's also the hit effect resolution (e.g. whether it's a kill, rout, pin or no effect). It's possible that having a higher attack roll increases chances of that the hit becomes a kill, but I have no idea how that calculation works.

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ORIGINAL: Zanotirn

Actually the numbers in screenshot look strange since the new model has less than a half of the attack of the old one. I.e. even if you just multiply the firepower by number of attacks the new model looks worse. (if it had just half of the attack of the old one, attacking the poor monitor would give you on average the same number of hits).

So either it's a bug or the game takes into account some factor favoring many small attacks that I'm missing here. (many small attacks are better in preventing breakthroughs but it shouldn't be relevant for an aircraft)

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If we look at Emx77's Shining Star III we can go through all the steps to arrive at the final soft attack/defense values taking this hidden penalty into account.
It starts at 1810 firepower, 60 for the machine guns and 1750 for the bomb load.
132 weapon design increases this by 32%: 1810 * 1.32 = 2389
Precision bombs have an 80% soft attack penalty: 2389 * 0.2 = 478
Though it's not shown I can very safely guess there is a cluster bombs bonus of 50% being applied: 478 * 1.5 = 717
Two attacks divides this value in half: 717/2 = 359
And finally a hidden -25% penalty for having two attacks: 359 * 0.75 = 269

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ORIGINAL: Tchey

Hi,

So do you all agree, the Shining 3 is actually worst than the Shining 2 ?

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ORIGINAL: Soar_Slitherine

We don't know how the combat kill chance mechanic works. If kill chance is flat per attack and having a specific value of firepower split into 2 attacks means the game rolls for kill chance twice while the overall chance of scoring a hit remains the same, then 2 attacks is a lot better than one. On the other hand, if overkill on the attack score increases kill chance, then having multiple attacks might not be so much of an advantage, unless the targets have much lower HP compared to the attack value so hit chance is already very high.

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ORIGINAL: Vic
attack scores might be slightly lower because the horsepower to weight ratio change.