Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: stormbringer3

I've read the old threads and I'm still not sure if I should invest in this for Italy and Russia.
Thanks for any opinions.

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ORIGINAL: Hubert Cater

I've re-read the relevant section in the Manual regarding Spying and Intelligence, and I can see how it might not be as clear as it should be.

Essentially Spying and Intelligence helps you if you are ahead of your opponent and matching levels negate each other, which is what this line in the Manual is trying to suggest:

Each new level of Spying & Intelligence increases
your own research bonus by 1% and decreases
your opponent’s bonus by 1%.

This just means if let's say the UK has S&I Level-1 then it would have a 1% bonus, but if Germany also has Level-1, then the UK no longer has a 1% bonus, and neither would Germany have a 1% bonus, they essentially cancel each other out.

But if you are ahead of your opponent, then your opponent's bonus is simply reduced to 0% and does not further reduce their per turn base research % progression. This would be the relevant section suggesting this, albeit from the opposite point of view, but it goes both ways:

If the enemy’s
intelligence level is higher than yours, then it will
just negate your own Spying & Intelligence. It won’t
reduce your per turn base research % progression.

Further examples:

- UK has Level-2, Germany has Level-1, then only the UK would have a 1% bonus (Germany would have a 0% bonus)
- UK has Level-3, Germany has Level-1, then only the UK would have a 2% bonus (Germany would have a 0% bonus)
- UK, USA, USSR have Level-3, Germany has Level-2, then the UK, USA and USSR would all have a 1% bonus (Germany would have a 0% bonus)

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ORIGINAL: Mithrilotter



The manual says "... once you have reached 45% towards level 1, 1 chit @ 5% gives you a 5% chance every turn that you might achieve a Research Breakthrough and attain the next level." The manual also says that " Spying & Intelligence can also increase the chance of a breakthrough after the 45% threshold has been crossed."

The Soviets have so much to research that increasing the chance of a breakthrough seems useful.

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ORIGINAL: Mithrilotter

My understanding is that having at least one level in Spying and Intelligence grants the possibility of a breakthrough after achieving a 30% advance in any particular area. Therefore, I always make sure that the Soviet Union achieves at least one level in Spying and Intelligence so that all other research might get lucky at 30% and beyond and progress faster. Otherwise, to my knowledge, all research has to progress to 100% to get an advancement.

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ORIGINAL: Taxman66

This is 100% incorrect. I suggest rereading the appropriate threads.

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ORIGINAL: PvtBenjamin

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S&I differentials just change the amount of the breakthrough.

Ahh You are correct


Higher S&I differentials just increase the chance of the breakthrough.

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ORIGINAL: Platoonist

The intelligence breakthrough aspect of the game was changed with in the 1.16.00 patch. Sadly, the existing manual is out of date in many respects.

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ORIGINAL: OldCrowBalthazor

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ORIGINAL: Platoonist

The intelligence breakthrough aspect of the game was changed with in the 1.16.00 patch. Sadly, the existing manual is out of date in many respects.

Hmmmm. This explains a few things....