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RE: April 26th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 7:22:55 PM   
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RE: April 26th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 7:23:34 PM   
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RE: April 26th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 7:24:11 PM   
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RE: April 26th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 7:25:04 PM   
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May 10th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 10:47:38 PM   
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I had figured that when good weather came the action in China would start up. I was right. I figured I had the Chinese army in a not to bad situation and was ready for the Japanese. I was wrong. Oh, so wrong.

India-Burma-Rangoon
The Japanese 29th and 22nd Army attacks the Wazristan Div. just south of Yenangyaung. After repeated attacks, the Wazristan division holds have suffered slight casualties while inflicting a good number of casualties (A3-D1).

North China.
The Japanese 3rd Bde attacks the Chinese 30th Army entrenched in Sian. The attacks are of no consequence (A1-D0).

50 miles northeast of Changtei the Japanese 17th and 20th Ind Bde cross the Jinsha river and attack the Chinese 22nd Army. The Japanese have aid of the 15th Air Div. and the Chinese have the Flying Tigers. In the air the Flying Tigers fend of the Japanese for slight losses (A0-D0), while on the ground there is stalemate (A0-D0).

100 miles east of Ankang the Japanese 7th/8th Ind Bde and the 13th Div. attacks the Chinese 1st Army. Though the 1st army inflicts more casualties than it suffers it retreats 100 miles till it is only 50 miles north of Ankang (A1-D0). There are some whispers of cowardice. In comparison just 50 mile south of the 1st Army’s battle the 1st Calvary also comes under attack by the Chines 7th/8th Bde and 13th Div. Though the 1st Calvary suffers casualties it holds (A0-D2).

South China.
The Japanese 11th and 13th Armies, in a concentrated effort, attack the Chinese 12th Army which shatters under the assault (A1-D2). The 11th and 13th are then joined by the 40th Div. in an assault on the Chinese Reserve Army which suffers horrendous casualties and shatters (A1-D5).

The Japanese 2nd and 3rd Air Div. conduct air strikes against the Chinese 15th Army in Yuan, but they have little effect. This is followed up with attacks by the 13th Army with close air support of the 3rd Air Div. The 15th holds (A2-D2).

Indochina
100 miles southeast of Kunming the Japanese 25th Army, 21st Div., and the Indian National Army cross the Hong river and attack the entrenched Chinese 14th Army. Battle is given, but it is a stalemate (A1-D0).

South Pacific
In the Solomon Islands a Japanese fleet appears off the east coast of Malaita. The Allies react and Task Force 17 launches planes but are unable to locate the Japanese. The NZ 4th/5th Tactical Air group can find the fleet and identifies the CV Akagi, CV Shokaku, CV Junyo, CVL Ryujo being escorted by 6 squadrons of destroyers. The brave New Zealand flyers attack suffering some losses but report no hits (A2-D0).

I have seen several Japanese fleets in and around the Solomon’s, but usually they are small. I did see one big fleet, but it was like 6 land units with 3 or 4 DD escorts. So, when I saw the interdiction, I didn’t think much of it. I brought up the list and saw a large list with CV Junyo at the top. I figured it was escorting a bunch of small DDs or some land units. Then I got to the last 3 ships, CV Akagi, CV Shokaku, and CVL Ryujo. Uh-oh, it is the Kido Butai.





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RE: May 10th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 10:49:18 PM   
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India-Burma-Rangoon
General Giffard orders some maneuvers and the Ind 44th Bde moves forward and reaches the Salween River, but no attacks are carried out due to severe rain. It has been noted that General Giffard’s experience as aided him in making good decisions (+1 combat, +1 mobility.)

South Pacific
The BBs Nevada and Pennsylvania with the 3rd, 4th, and 14th DD escort the 40th Div into San Cristobal where it successfully disembarks. (The Japanese tried to interdict but failed).
The Yorktown, Saratoga, and Hornet launch an airstrike against Kido Butai. The Americans loose 3 air units, the Hornet is sunk and the Yorktown is crippled (2). The Japanese lose 3 air units, the 5th CL/DD is sunk the 12th DD is crippled, and the Shokaku is crippled (2). The America fleet retreats to Port Suva.
The NZ 4th/5th Tac Air group launches its own airstrike against Kido Butai and for very slight damage (1) sinks the CV Junyo.
Force K moves to deliver an attack, but the Japanese force spots it. The US BB Arizona and UK BB Ramillies are sunk and the AUS CA Canberra take some damage (1). When I go to deliver the attack all it says is “enemy force spotted.”
Okay. I save scummed. The first time (LOL), I just moved the 40th division alone into port thinking it could slip in, disembark and that would be that. The Japanese reacted sunk the 40th.
The second time I moved the 40th in with some BB’s. They took some damage, but it was okay. I then used the American Task Force to do airstrikes. I then moved the Force K and did a naval strike. The end results of 2 carrier airstrikes, 2 land airstrikes, and the naval attack was that the Americans lost 2 CVs, had a CV take 2 pts (it would die the next turn), have 3 BBs sunk, have the NZ unit crippled (it lost like 8pts), and numerous damage to DDs. For all of this the Japanese took lost like 3pts of air and took 2pts damage to a DD.

The AUS 1st RAAF rebases to the Santa Cruz Islands.
MacArthur and the US Marine Gar arrive in New Caledonia and enter port at Noumea.
The SS Pike moves and attacks Kido Butai. It achieves surprise, but no hits, and is sunk.

Australia
A Japanese Cruiser group is spotted off the coast of Australia east of Mackay.
The fully repaired SS Swordfish leaves Sydney, achieves surprise, and cripples the CA Takao. It is also crippled (2).

China.
With the southern front in dire straits the entire Chinese line shifts south. The Chinese 27th and 20th Army carries out attacks against the surrounded Japanese 12th Army which surrenders with slight losses to the Chinese forces (China lost 0).
I look for Chinese units with less than 65% effectiveness. I spend 2 supply trucks on the 1st Calvary and 3 supply trucks on the Chinese 20th Army.

USN
The 32nd Div. reports to Astoria. The BB Indiana arrives in San Francisco and immediately moves to Pearl.

UK
10 more transports added to pool, total now 30.


Allied Production and Convoys

UK
67-14 (125-16)
Oil looks much better. Upkeep has gone up though.

USA
391-20 (387-25)
I am spending 5 more oil than I am making. I decide to keep my convoys the same to boost UK oil before I stop it next turn.
I spend 300 (only lose 275) to buy the 3rd Naval Air Squadron which should be available September 7th, 1942.

China
65-4 (8-44)

Australia
28-0 (37-32)

India
64-4 (13-21)

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RE: May 10th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 10:50:32 PM   
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RE: May 10th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 10:51:16 PM   
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RE: May 10th, 1942 - 5/8/2021 11:07:26 PM   
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Lets get the elephant out of the room. Save Scumming. I don’t like it Unless something just strikes me as out of balance and way off, I do normally will not do it even if it is really bad for me. It is just a game after all.
The first undo was moving the 40th division into port by itself. I did not consider, nor realize that the Japanese could airstrike it. My mistake.

The second time I did it I thought the results were just way out of whack. I mean, 3 CVs attacking, the BBs coming in, all of that and the Japanese lost a few air units while the enter Allies fleet goes to the bottom? Really?
Looking back on it, after the way things played out, I should have kept the second result. (I make no apologies for saving the 40th, that was due to the lack me knowing how the game played.) Yes, it might be out of whack, but the thing about naval combat, the thing most games don’t get right is just how wild it can get.

I mean take the famous Battle of Midway. Historically we lost 1 CV and the Japanese lost 4. Yet, if one commander had turned south instead of north 4 Japanese CVs launch a single attack against the 3 American CVs. What happens then? It is very realistic to think the battle could have seen Japan losing 0 and American losing 2 or 3.
Even with the commander making the right decision and turning north, if not for the quick thinking of his subordinate the American attack could have only taken out 2 CVs leaving 2 CVs to launch an attack against the 3 American CVs. If you assume the Yorktown is put out of action that would leave 2 vs 2 and then who knows what.

So, what did I learn:
#1 Carriers rule. (No duh. I have all people should not need to be told this.

#2 Aircraft, carrier or land, can interdict so you better think twice before you move a ship into or out of an area. (Should have learned this after my Pearl Harbor opening turn mistake).

#3 Naval combat is a crap shoot.

I want to make sure people understand, point #3 is not a complaint. It is accurate and as it should be.


For got a couple:
#4. When moving your fleets do not use all operation points to attack. If you use all your operation points and do not kill the enemy your fleet is stuck and the enemy gets to attack it then move off.

#5 Do not put transports in a fleet with CVs. CVs cannot do anything while transports are in their fleet.

#6 Do not bunch up your CVs. Fleets only get to interdict twice per your enemies turn. If you have all your CVs in one fleet you get 2 possible interdictions, if you break them into separate fleets one might not interdict until later. This is what the Japanese did to me giving them more interdictions.



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May 24th, 1942 - 5/9/2021 4:21:12 PM   
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Burma-Rangoon
50 miles south of the Japanese 25th and 22nd Armies attack the Warzristan Div. forcing it to retreat after taking slight casualties (A0-D1).

To the east on the Hong River the India 44th Bde comes under attack from the Japanese 28th, 31st, and 29th Armies. The Japanese armies continue west and attack the India 1st Corp forcing it to retreat to north of Yenangyaung (A2-D2).

50 miles north of Rangoon the India 2nd Bde comes under heavy attack from the Japanese 15th Div. with air support from the 1st and 5th Air Divisions (the India 1st IAF provides defending support (in the air J-3 I-3 on the ground J-4 I-3).

South Pacific
US Naval forces limit supplies from getting to Guadalcanal.
The Japanese carriers strike at what is left of Force K and sink the UK BC Repulse, the AUS CA Canberra, and badly damage the BB California (2pts damage).

China.
South of Changsha the Japanese 40th Div. and 13th Army attack the Chinese 11th Army. After suffering severe losses (J0-C3) the 11th Army retreats leaving Changsha close to being encircled. The 40th and 13th continue their attacks against the Chinese 9th Army which retreats after bloody fighting (J2-C3).

To the northwest of Changsha the Japanese send the 17th and 20th Ind Bde with support from the 15th Air Div. against the Chinese 3rd Army. The land combat sees little losses, so the 3rd holds, but there are losses in the air and it does not go in favor of the Flying Tigers flying in support (land J0-C0, air J1-C2).

With Changsha almost encircled the Japanese 40th Div. and 20th Ind Bde launch an attack, with air support from the 13th Air Div, against the only unit keeping Changhsa and the 17th Army from being enveloped, the 22nd Army. The 22nd Army holds (J1-C1).

Further north the Japanese 7th/8th Ind Bde with 3rd Div. air support attacks the Chinese 1st Calvary with Flying Tiger support. The 1st Calvary retreats. The Flying Tigers give a better showing of themselves. (land J1-C1, air J1-C0).

Convoys
The I-10 tries raiding convoys but finds no luck.





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RE: May 24th, 1942 - 5/9/2021 4:22:49 PM   
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RE: May 24th, 1942 - 5/9/2021 4:33:29 PM   
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I am getting the naval forces out of the Solomon. I expect more losses. I plan using the land based air to strike the Japanese Fleet.

In Burma just reinforce the line and try to get my stronger forces up on the front line.

The real action is in China. I have played many games that have a Barbarosa, but in all those games I have never felt very pressed. The Soviets are always getting new units and they have room to fall back. Not here. There is no room to fall back, there are no new units coming, and I have like 3-4 hexes before the Japanese are right besides points I have to hold. I feel like the Soviets in 1942-43 crying to the allies, "Open up another front."

So the plan.
#1 Move the Communist Chinese. One unit heads east. I don't expect it to attack, don't want it to attack, just threaten and make him move units to intercept it.

#2 Have the other Communist unit move south and take over blocking for the National Chinese unit so it can move south.

#3 Shift most units south to protect Changsha. It is almost completely surrounded. The green star is a Japanese Division. I don't want to attack it, but if the odds are decent I am going to have to to relieve Changsha. If it was an Army, I wouldn't have a chance.

#4 Note the Japanese unit in Canton. A 15-2!!!! If he move he could roll up my entire south and my units won't stop retreating till I get to Hongshui.




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RE: May 24th, 1942 - 5/10/2021 12:43:45 AM   
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India-Burma-Rangoon
UK, and her satellites now have 40 supply trucks. These are spent to reinforce the 1st Corp, Waziristan Div., 2nd Bde, the 1st IAF. India and UK units are maneuvered on the front line, but no attacks are carried out.

China.
In the north the Communist New 4th Army begins moving to the east while the Communist 8th Route Army moves to Yenan to relieve the Nationalist 34th Army which takes over the defense of Sian. The of course relieves the 30th Army to begin heading south.
The big battle, the Battle for Changsha, takes place southwest of Changsha when the Chinese 17th, 22nd, 3rd, and 9th Armies assault the Japanese 40th Division. Despite repeated assaults the 40th Div. holds as it gives out as many casualties as it takes (A2-D2). Chang Kai-shek, gets intelligence reports that the 40th Div. is now at half strength, but he knows that the inability to move the 40th means doom for Changsha and the 17th Army inside it. Still, he orders of the precious few supply trucks he has left to be given to the 17th.

USN
The SS Cero and SS Bullhead deploy to San Francisco and begin moving towards Midway and the
40 supply trucks arrive for use.
With 20 free transports the time to move units of the West Coast Arrives. I would like an air superiority group, but the only one the USA has is the one in Hawaii and I decide to leave it there. Instead, I take the 9th (?) Bomber group and begin moving it to Australia.

South Pacific
The US places a COMINT unit at Buin on the Island of Bougainville. The received intelligence is enlightening and depressing. The Japanese have an HQ named, “Australian Exp. Force.” They have 20 ships at Rabaul and two task forces to the northeast of Malaita. These two task forces, according to intelligence, have 18 ships which include 8 CVs and 6 BBs.

--SS Swordfish with crippling damage (1/3 strength) reports to Sydney for repairs.
--The US Far East Air Group at Lae uses supply trucks (US now has 36 trucks).
--The AUS 1st RAAF on the Santa Cruz Islands receives supply trucks (UK now has 27 trucks),
--The NZ 4th/5th Tac air group receives supply trucks (UK now has 23) but is still near exhaustion with just 56% effectiveness.
--MacArthur arrives at Port Moresby and disembarks.
--The US Marine Def Gar arrives and disembarks at San Cristobal. I wasn’t sure if the Japanese could try to intercept this movement. They could. They tried, luckily for me they failed.

The AUS 1st RAAF unit performs and airstrike on a Japanese force that includes the CV Akagi and CVL Ryujo. The Aussies achieve no hits, suffer two losses. The final report does not show Japanese losses, but during the battle I thought it said they lost 4 air.

The BB California and 3 US DDs retreat to Port Suva for repair. I expected the Japanese to try and intercept and am gland when they didn’t.

Allied Production and Convoys

UK
67-14 (131-26); 23 supply trucks, 3 oilers.
Purchase 4 sets (40) supply trucks.
Canada purchases a set of supply trucks.
UK begins sending 3 oil to NZ.

USA
393-20 (422-24); 36 supply trucks, 4 oilers, 40 transports.
Purchase 2 sets (20) supply trucks.
I purchase 3 Submarines.
NZ is out of oil and the UK has built up a stockpile of 26 so I stop trade to the UK.
I send 20 production and 3 oil to Australia and 11 production and 3 oil to NZ to use all my MM.

China
65-4 (4-45)
They don’t use oil, except for the Flying Tigers, and they have all he oil. All production going to reinforcements.

Australia
28-0 (30-22)

India
65-6 (11-21)





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RE: May 24th, 1942 - 5/10/2021 1:45:04 AM   
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India-Burma-Rangoon
The Japanese attacked the exposed India 13th Bde 50 miles south of Yenangyaung. The Japanese send their 28th Army, 12st Base Force, and 22nd Army in on the assault. The fighting is brutal going hand to hand in many places. In the end the 13th Bde holds, but with devastating losses. (I-5 J-3).

China.
--Chenzhou, held by the 16th Army comes under attack by the Japanese 11th Army. Though the 16th suffers heavy losses they hold. (J4-C4).
--The Japanese 3rd Bde attacks the Chinese 30th Army as it moves south out of Sian and suffers heavy casualties (J2-C0).
--50 miles to the east of Ankang the Japanese 110th Div. and 7th/8th Bde attacks the gug in 20th Army. Each side suffers a few casualties before calling it a day. (J1-C1)
--200 mile each of Chungking the Japanese 17th and 20th Ind Bde attack the Chinese 20th Army. Each side suffers a few casualties before calling it a day. (J1-C1)

As predicted the Japanese throw everything but the kitchen sink at the 17th Army and Changsha. A probing attack by units of the Japanese 13th Army, 39th Div. and 34th Div. is fended off with heavy losses (J-1 C-3). Then the air strikes come. The 29th Air Bde, 13th Air Div. and 3rd Air Div. The Flying Tiger take heavy losses shooting down few Japanese (J-1 C-4), but their stubborn resistance means the Japanese flyers are not able to get a good bead on the 17th and the attacks are ineffectual. Once the attacks are done though the 38th Div. 34th Div. take up the assault. In urban fighting the 17th gives the Japanese a bloody nose as they retreat with heavy losses (J-3 C-0).

South Pacific
No movement. The Japanese Fleets disappear. Aussie bombers from the Santa Cruz Islands destroy 40 supplies entering Guadalcanal.

Wow. I mean. Wow. I am speechless. The 13th Bde held in Burma and the 17th held in Changsha. The Changsha fight is important because the Japanese had to retreat….more on that later 😊






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RE: May 24th, 1942 - 5/10/2021 4:06:34 AM   
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India-Burma-Rangoon
--The India 1st Corp is provided supply trucks bringing its effectiveness to 54%.
--The India 1st IAF is provided supply trucks bringing its effectiveness to 83%.
--The 13th Bde, after doing such great service last turn makes way for the UK 11th E. African Div.
--Though General Wavell wants to lead and attack, General Giffard persuades him to wait.

China.
The Communist continue their march toward Peking. Otherwise Chinese units move to form a line south of Changsha.

South Pacific
--The 4th Bomber group arrives in the South Pacific an takes up bases at Milne Bay in New Guinea.
--The Far East Air group is provided Supply trucks bringing it to 92% effectiveness.
--The NZ 4th/5th Tac Group receives supply trucks bringing it to 61% effectiveness.
--The AUS 1st RAAF receives supply trucks bringing it to 72% effectiveness.
--The AUS 1st Corp embarks at Brisbane and disembarks at Lae.

UK
--The 10th Corp deploys to S. Africa

USN
--The US 3rd Bomber group and the 27th Div. embark and head for Australia
--The SS Bulkhead and SS Cero move toward the Solomon Islands.

Allied Production and Convoys

UK
68-5 (54-21)
--Shipping 3 oil to NZ is putting me at a deficit, but I can do it for a few turns.
--I purchase 1 set (10) supply trucks.
--Canada purchases 10(1) supply trucks.

USA
395-20 (288-26)
--With an added 10 more MM I begin shipping more production to NZ so it is able to reinforce its air and land units.
-- I purchase 5 sets (50) supply trucks.
--I purchase the 1st Marine Div.

China
65-4 (4-48)

Australia
36-3 (52-25)

India
65-23 (31-23)


I know it is still way early, but I really feel this was a turning point. The Japanese have been halted in Burma and I think we can go on attack. We have a foothold in the Solomon Islands. The US Fleet is all repaired and about to get its 3rd CV. Even the Japanese have halted the Japanese advance and reformed their lines.







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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/11/2021 6:06:11 AM   
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Should I keep going with this game or start a new 1941 game?
Or start a new 1941 game as the Japanese?

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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/11/2021 2:45:27 PM   
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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/11/2021 5:56:31 PM   
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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/11/2021 6:54:54 PM   
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Check out the War Room where I have put up a couple of threads.

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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/11/2021 7:06:47 PM   
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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/12/2021 3:09:04 AM   
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India-Burma-Rangoon
-- The Japanese move some units, retreating some advancing others, but launch only one half-hearted attack 50 miles northeast of Yenangyaung. The 31st Army, 28th Army with air support from the 5th Air Div. attack the Madras Naval Base Force with the 1st IAF flying in support. Neither the air (J3-I2) or the land (J2-I2) battle go in favor of the Japanese.

China.
-- 100 miles south of Changsha the Japanese 13th Army assaulted the Chinese 5th Army forcing it to retreat. (J1-C1)
-- A little further south of the 13th Armies attack the Japanese 13th Air Div. struck at the 16th Army entrenched in Chenzhou. The Flying Tigers fought the Japanese to a stalemate (J1-C1). The airstrike was followed up with an assault by the 11th Army which took heavy casualties (J3-C1).
-- In the hills 100 miles to the southeast of Ankang the Japanese 110th Div and he 33rd Div, crossing a river, attacked the 1st Calvary which retreated with light casualties on both sides (J0-C0). This attack continued as the 33rd Div. and 110th Div, with support of the 15th Air Div. fought the Chinese 1st Army in a stalemate (J1-C1).
-- 100 miles south of the 1st Calvary battle the Japanese 33rd Div, 17th Bde, 20th Bde, with support from the 2nd Air Div attacked the 2nd Army. The Flying Tigers flew in support to no effect (J0-C1). On the ground the 2nd Army gave the Japanese a bloody nose. (J2-C1).
-- Changsha again came under air assault from the 3rd Air Div. which was followed up by attacks from the 39th Div. and 34th Div. The defending 17th Army held and gave the Japanese more casualties than they took (J3-C1). This attack was followed up by another attack by the 4th/14th Bde. The 17th took some casualties but held.

South Pacific
-- There was no movement from Japanese units, but Allied aircraft destroy 40 supply points at Guadalcanal. (It is a Port Size 3, so they should have 60, that means they are left with 20 a turn.) I do notice that the Japanese unit on Guadalcanal is in garrison mode.


In case you are wondering the Indochina front has been quiet with neither the Japanese or Chinese even moving units.





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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/12/2021 5:31:06 AM   
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Overview
-- Both the UK and USA add more transports.
-- The USA deploys 2 airfields and the CV Wasp which reports to Los Angles. It is joined by the BB North Carolina and BB Indiana from Pearl Harbor and the 3 set out for Australia.

*The UK has 40 transports, 8 supply trucks 3 oilers, and 89 MM with 12 escorts.
*The USA has 60 transports, 32 supply trucks, 4 oilers, 47 MM with 11 escorts.
*China has 2 supply trucks.

UK has a CA coming Aug 10 and 50 supply trucks coming Aug 22nd.

The USA has 2 airfields ready to deploy, gets 4 supply orders June 25th, 20 more transports on July 3rd On July 11th the USA gets 100 landing craft, the BB South Dakota on July 14th, and then 10 more MM on July 17th.

India-Burma-Rangoon
-- The Japanese 22nd Army is entrenched at a crucial crossroads 100 miles north of Rangoon. It is the only Japanese unit that keeps the Burma road from being opened and extra supplies getting into China. General Wavell, now in command of the Burma area, wants to attack the unit to remove it. However, with the India Lahore Div. and the India 17th Div. having to cross the Irrawady river the attack is called off. (Have to cross a river, he is in a jungle an entrenched. Odds 1:2, not good.).

UK
-- The UK 10th Corp in South Africa boards transports. Destination, unknown.

Australia
-- The NZ 1st Div. embarks at Auckland and disembarks at Brisbane where it will become defensive garrison.

China.
-- The entire Indochina border units go on garrison duty.
-- The 22nd Army marches from northwest of Changsha to the southeast of Changsha and joins the 3rd Army on an attack against the Japanese 34th division. The attack is called off after taking light casualties (C1-J0).

South Pacific
-- The NZ 4th/5th Tac air group receives 4 supply trucks.
-- The SS Cero and SS Bulkhead begin patrolling 100 miles to the west of Buin, Bougainville. They are joined by the SS Swordfish which has finished repairs at Sydney.
-- The USA 3rd Bomber group disembarks at Espirito Santo.
-- The US Far East Air group launches an airstrike against the 25+ ships in the harbor at Rabaul. It suffers losses (U2-J0), but does reveal that most all of the force is transports of land units and torpedo boat divisions.
-- The US Pacific Fleet, yep the entire fleet, moves to blockage Guadalcanal. The Fleet currently consist of 2 CVs, 5 BBs, 1 CA, and 6 DDs.

USN
-- The USA Hawaiin Air group embarks are Pearl Harbor for transfer to the Australia and the South Pacific.
-- The USA 2nd Marine embarks at San Diego and heads for Australia.

Allied Production and Convoys

UK
68-5 (67-17)
-- Oil upkeep is 1 one more than production but shouldn’t be a problem for a while.
-- Purchase 20 landing ships that will arrive Sept 19th.

USA
397-20 (239-23)
--- I really want another air superiority group but cannot afford it.
-- Nothing purchased, no convoy changes.

China
66-4 (73-52)
-- I would sell the oil for more production 😊.
Upkeep 72, stockpile 73. I decide to spend nothing because when you reinforce/upgrade it takes the least of your stockpile or Reinforcement number.

Australia
36-3 (88-27)
--Oil looking good.
-- Purchase 20 supply trucks.

Communist China
-- Purchase 20 supply trucks. Due September 19th.

India
65-4 (45-23)
-- Everything looks good.





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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/12/2021 5:38:52 AM   
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UK-India-Burma
I really want to remove the Japanese from the Burma Road. I am trying to get my strongest units on the front line to do an assault or maneuver around the offending units.

China
It looks like the Japanese squashed any Communist Chinese advancement. I expected that. The idea in China is not to win great battles, but to slowly chip away at the Japanese. Attrition warfare. I think that has been done and I think the weakness the Japanese now show is because of that.

I realized I had made a mistake with garrisons. I know they are at 50% movement and I was thinking they were at 50% attack and defense. Wrong. They are only at 50% in “offensive firepower.” Since the Indochina border units are not going to advance, I put them in garrison mode. Why not other units as well, I want the ability to maneuver if needed.

South Pacific
I would not be surprised if a battle erupts I this area in a month or two.

I thought there was something about Marine units did not have to embark to invade and could walk across land hexes separated by water such as the Solomon Islands. Apparently, they still need landing craft because I cannot move them. Once I get landing craft they are going to assault Guadalcanal. I also pan on moving MacArthur HQ on a transport over there, so they get his bonuses. I will then move the Australian Command HQ, under Thomas Blarney, to New Guinea to take MacArthur’s place.

As for New Guinea, if you have noticed I am slowly moving my units. I want to assault the Japanese on the other end of the Island.


The Long Term Goals
I want to clear the Burma Road and them just march the Indian Army, with UK units, right down southeast. I am thinking about a possible assault and landing on Sumatra. This would tie up Japanese army units and threaten their resources. Not to mention give an airbase to threaten their supply convoys.

I want to secure my position in New Guinea. I am not really greatly concerned about kicking the Japanese out, but want to ensure my position is strong and I cannot be removed from the Island.

I want to continue to move into the Solomon Islands. I want to take Guadalcanal so that my air forces can muster and make Rabaul a useless position. I am then thinking about taking the Palu Islands. It has two size 4 ports. Not the best, but size 4 is better than nothing. From there I would like a to launch an attack into the Philippines. With the Philippines my air could threaten to unravel his entire empire.





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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/12/2021 7:56:27 AM   
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India-Burma-Rangoon
-- 50 miles north of Rangoon the Japanese made a concentrated effort to remove the Indian 14th Division. The Japanese 22 Army, 15th Army, with support of the 1st Air Div, attacked the 14th supported by the 1st IAF. In the air the 1st IAF, flying the updated Hawker Hurricane (1942 interceptor) gave the Japanese more than they could handle (J3-I1). While on the ground the 14th Div, though taking heavy casualties, inflicted serious casualties on the Japanese (J5-I3).
-- 100 miles northeast of Yenangyaung, in dense jungle, the Japanese 31st Army attacked India Madras Naval Base Force. Despite much fighting neither side suffered many casualties (J1-I1).

China.
-- 100 miles west of Ankang the Japanese 18th Bde and the 110th Div, with support of the 15th Air Div. attacked the 10th army. The air combat resulted in little losses on either side (J0-C0) and the 20th suffered little casualties (J0-C1).
-- The long expected assault on Chenzhou finally came when the Japanese 13th and 11th armies attacked the 16th Army. The 16th Army suffered horrible losses and was force to retreat (J1-C3). The 13th and 11th then continued their attacks against the Chinese 9th Army which shattered under their weight.
-- 50 miles northwest of Canton the Japanese 23rd Army attacked the Chinese 10th Army and after exchanging loses the 10th Army retreated (J1-I1).
-- The Communist 8th Route Army at Yenan came under air attack from the 3rd Air Div. and ground attack from the Japanese 13th and 6th Div. The Communist inflicted severe losses on the Japanese (J3-Cc1).
-- The Changsha area again came under attack as the 23rd 50 miles southeast of Changsha came under attack from the 4th/14th Bde. Again, the Chinese suffered less than the Japanese (J2-C1).

South Pacific
-- Early in the morning carrier planes from the Yorktown and Saratoga, off the coast of Guadalcanal, spotted a fleet of Japanese ships 100 miles north of the Japanese held Henderson field, off the north coast of Malaita. An attack was launched and the Japanese also launched an attack. The Japanese fleet of the CV Akagi, Hiryu and CVLs Ryujo and Shoho, with the CVE south group came under attack as their planes attacked the US fleet. In the air US Flyers take heavy casualties but sink the CV Akagi (US lose 5 air). The Japanese attack sinks the CV Yorktown, lightly damages the BB Pennsylvania and heavily damages he 11th CL/DD. Later in the afternoon another Japanese attack losses suffers heavy losses (J loses 3 air), but they sink the BB Pennsylvania and lightly damage the Nevada and California BBs.



First…Really. Sigh. I was just getting my 3rd CV. Now I am back to two again, as long as I can get the Saratoga out that is.
Second, where did the Japanese fleet come from? Lesson…fleets can travel a long distance and attack.
Third, I lost a CV that can be replaced and a BB that is kind of on the back burner. They lost a CV that they cannot replace and some air. I think it might be a good trade.




I have also noticed that all Japanese submarine attacks against Convoys have stopped.


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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/12/2021 7:57:41 AM   
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-- US adds 20 transports.
-- US adds 4 supply oilers.
-- China adds 10 supply trucks.
-- UK, via Canada, adds 20 supply trucks.

India-Burma-Rangoon
-- The India 1st Corp, 2nd Bde, 17th Div. and Lahore Div. attacked the Japanese 22nd Army. After light casualties on either side the attack is stopped (J1-I1).

China.
-- The Chinese Army shifts its front to the south, with all units moving 50 miles south and the units retreating to a line south of Changsha.

South Pacific
-- The Saratoga, with a completely depleted air group, retires with the Pacific Fleet to Port Suva in Fiji where it is joined by the CV Wasp and the BBs Indiana and North Carolina.
-- The Japanese Fleet comes under attack from the NZ 4th/5th Tac Group (6 losses, 0 hits), the US 4th Bomber group (6 losses, light damage to the BB Hyuga) and the 1st RAAF (3 losses, 0 hits). The US 3rd Bomber group arrive at the Santa Cruz Islands where it launches its own attack against the Japanese fleet (0 losses, 0 hits). All four air units would receive supply trucks at the end of the turn.
-- The SS Cero, Bulkhead, and Swordfish also launch an attack and although the achieve surprise they get 0 hits and the Cero and Bulkhead suffer severe damage.
-- The US 27th DD tries to make a run for Bougainville but is sunk by Japanese carrier planes.
-- The US 2nd Marines disembarks at the Santa Cruz Islands.

USN
-- The Hawaiian Air Force Group, now named the 1st Interceptor Group arrive and disembark at Cairns on the North coast of Australia.
-- The 32nd and 41st Div. embark on transports on the west coast and arrive at Hilo in the Hawaiian Islands.

Allied Production and Convoys

UK
68-5 (60-16) 16 trucks, 1 Air, 40 transports.
-- 20 landing craft are purchased. This will give me a total of 40 and one good landing.
-- NZ purchases 20 trucks.
-- The UK builds a COMINT unit to be deployed on Aug 2nd.

USA
400-60 (530-39) 24 trucks, 1 air, 80 transports, 8 oilers
--- Purchased 3rd Fighter group as Fighter Bombs. Should deploy Jan 1st, 1943.
--- Purchase 80 landing craft, due October 3rd.
-- Oil should no longer be a problem.
-- The US finally gets a COMINT breakthrough and “part of the Japanese Code has been deciphered.”

China
66-4 (41-55)
-- upkeep up to 103.

Australia
36-3 (64-23)

India
65-4 (75-24)





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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/12/2021 10:24:51 PM   
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India-Burma-Rangoon
-- 50 miles northeast of Yenangyaung the Japanese 31st Army and 29th Army with support from the 5th Air Div attack the India Waziristan Div with help from the 1st IAF. In the air loses are equal (J1-I1), but on the land the Waziristan Div takes more losses and retreats (J1-I2).

China.
-- The Japanese leave Chenzhou and make a concentrated attack against the Chinese 3rd Army 50 north of Chenzhou. The Japanese 1st Bde and 13th Army with support of the 15th Air Division launch their attack. In the air the Chinese Flying Tigers suffer more loses then they are able to give out (J1-C2), but on the land the 3rd Army gives devastating loses to the enemy for slight casualties (J6-C2).
-200 miles east of Chungking the Japanese 33rd Div, 17th Bde, and 20th Bde attack the 27th Army. The 27th holds off the attacks but weariness forces it to retreat. (J3-C2).

South Pacific
-- As the Kido Butai moves to leave the Solomon Islands they are first intercepted by the a AUS 1st RAAF air group. The 1st RAAF suffer casualties (1) but they get a bomb hit on the CV Shokaku (1).

This is HUGE. It cost 25% of total production cost per strength point to repair naval units. If it cost 500 PPs (it will cost more) than this single damage cost Japan 125 PPs. For the US that is a drop in the bucket. For Japan, that is nearly a turn worth.

-- Also, as Kido Butai moves the US SS submarines, still in the area, attack. The US subs achieve surprise but are unable to get any hits and all are lost.

I posted to the forums about this. Last turn, in order to attack, I had to put my subs in fleet mode, move and then attack. This leaves my subs in fleet mode with not operation points. In fleet mode my subs look to intercept enemy units. So, as the Japanese move my subs, even though I do not want them to, move to intercept the Japanese fleet. And you get the results I got. Sigh.





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RE: January 18h, 1942 - 5/12/2021 10:27:12 PM   
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My plans. China, just hold. In Burma I want to remove the Japanese and open the Burma road. Might try to cut off Japanese units in north Burma. In the South Pacific with the Japanese fleet moved off I would like to put a surface group in there that could use night movement. The problem is there is no real good port to keep them at.
-- China gets the 1940 Assault advancement.
-- US adds 10 MM
-- US adds 100 landing craft.
-- Communist China adds 20 trucks.

India-Burma-Rangoon
-- General Giffard decides to make a concentrated effort to remove the Japanese 22nd Army, commanded by General Yamashita, and open the Burma Road. The India 1st Corp, Lahore Div., 17th Div., and 2nd Bde all attempt to move the Japanese unit. The Japanese however are encouraged by Yamashita as he visits the front during the fighting. This causes them to hold firm as they give out withering fire that causes horrible casualties among the Indian units. (J1-I5). It comes as a cost though as Yamashita is wounded and killed forcing him to be replaced by Genera Seishiro Itagaki.
. My mouth is wide open. I did not even know Generals could get killed.
-- After the attack the India 1st Corp is extremely weakened and receives supply trucks (38% effectiveness, UK has 9 trucks left).
-- UK 10th Corp arrives in Rangoon.

China.
-- With 32 trucks Chang Kai-shek looks to provide his units with much needed supplies. The 27th Army, Flying Tigers, 10th Army, and 1st Calvary all receive trucks. (China has 22 left).
-- The 3rd Army reoccupies Chenzhou.

South Pacific
-- The US 21st Bomber group (naval air) disembarks at Espirito Santo.
-- The US 3rd Bomber group (naval air) tries to find the Japanese Fleet at see but is unable to locate them. It receives supply trucks.
-- The US 40th Division invades Guadalcanal.
-- The US BBs Indiana, Maryland, Nevada, and North Carolina with the 11th, 12th, and 13th CL/DD slip into Buin, Bougainville. (Size 3 Port, best I can do.)
-- The AUS 1st RAAF flies to an airfield 100 miles north of Port Moresby.
-- The US 4th Bomber group (naval air) flies to Buin, Bougainville.
-- The AUS HQ under Blarney arrives at Lae to take command of the Australian army forces marching across the north of Papua New Guinea
-- The US 1st Interceptor group moves to Milne Bay.
-- The US Noumea Def Force Div. moves to Buin, Bougainville. With its engineering battalion it is hoped it can build an airfield.
-- MacArthur moves to San Cristobal to take command of US force.

USN
-- The BB South Dakota reports to San Francisco and begins moving to Australia.
-- The 41st and 32nd Div leave Hawaii and are met by the Pacific Fleet, as an escort, as the divisions move to the South Pacific and Australia.

Allied Production and Convoys

UK
69-5 (54-15)
-- Canada purchases 10 trucks.

USA
402-60 (223-75)
--- The US changes their convoys. To UK 5 oil, to Australia 25 PP, 5 oil, to New Zealand 17PP and 5 oil.
-- Purchase SS Toro due October 1942
-- Purchase 40 trucks.

China
66-4 (17-56)
-- Communist China purchases 10 trucks.

Australia
37-3 (80-22)
-- Purchase 20 trucks due October 1942.

India
66-4 (115-25)
-- Save for small Corp or build trucks?





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