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RE: X No repair ?? - 6/2/2021 2:56:29 AM   
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First time since game release I have seen anyone claim that AMcs work when disbanded.


Then you have missed something. Its been my experience they do.

They will form, sweep known minefields in their base, and disband.

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RE: X No repair ?? - 6/2/2021 9:35:27 AM   
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First time since game release I have seen anyone claim that AMcs work when disbanded.


Then you have missed something. Its been my experience they do.

They will form, sweep known minefields in their base, and disband.


Just had the AI drop sub laid mines at Koepang. There were at least a dozen Dutch AMcs disbanded in port. Not one formed a TF on its own and cleared mines. I had to manually form multiple TFs to get the job done.

I won't believe these claims until I see proof.

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RE: X No repair ?? - 6/2/2021 11:08:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter


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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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First time since game release I have seen anyone claim that AMcs work when disbanded.


Then you have missed something. Its been my experience they do.

They will form, sweep known minefields in their base, and disband.


Just had the AI drop sub laid mines at Koepang. There were at least a dozen Dutch AMcs disbanded in port. Not one formed a TF on its own and cleared mines. I had to manually form multiple TFs to get the job done.

I won't believe these claims until I see proof.

I don't know if it is true or not, but I would think you might need to wait until the turn after the minefield is laid before you see the AMcs sweep, if that happens automatically. A lot of the housekeeping stuff like detecting minefields seems to happen at the very end of a turn, so reaction might be the turn after.

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RE: X No repair ?? - 6/2/2021 12:20:32 PM   
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They should form the TF, sweep, then disband.

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RE: X No repair ?? - 6/3/2021 1:30:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: HansBolter


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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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First time since game release I have seen anyone claim that AMcs work when disbanded.


Then you have missed something. Its been my experience they do.

They will form, sweep known minefields in their base, and disband.


Just had the AI drop sub laid mines at Koepang. There were at least a dozen Dutch AMcs disbanded in port. Not one formed a TF on its own and cleared mines. I had to manually form multiple TFs to get the job done.

I won't believe these claims until I see proof.

I don't know if it is true or not, but I would think you might need to wait until the turn after the minefield is laid before you see the AMcs sweep, if that happens automatically. A lot of the housekeeping stuff like detecting minefields seems to happen at the very end of a turn, so reaction might be the turn after.


At most busy ports I typically have an ASW and a Coastal Minesweeping TF patrolling the port hex as basic components of port maintenance. I'll have to stand those down and await another opportunity to test this claim. Subs laying mines in my ports doesn't happen every day so it may be a long wait for a test case.

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RE: X No repair ?? - 6/3/2021 6:55:52 PM   
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There have been a number of threads discussing whether or not these vessels may sweep their own port. Here's one, check JWE's post 8.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2845289&mpage=1&key=tenders%2Cport%2Cmine%2Csweeping&#

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RE: X No repair ?? - 6/3/2021 7:00:45 PM   
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Subs laying mines in my ports doesn't happen every day so it may be a long wait for a test case.


Agreed. I only can recall once or twice where I knew of the AI sweeping a port. Doesn't mean it hadn't occurred where I missed it.

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