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Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/5/2021 6:41:44 PM   
lekseus

 

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Status: offline 		I set the escort ~30 in Attack and Ground support fields.
But when enemy attacks AI sends bombers without an escort again and again. I tried to decrease the Commitment level on Bombers airbases - no effect.
How to deal with this issue?
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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/7/2021 6:15:46 AM   
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I'm sorry but I don't uderstand the question.

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ORIGINAL: lekseus

I set the escort ~30 in Attack and Ground support fields.


Setting escorts here controls the percentage number of escorts compared to the bombers sent by the AI. It has no effect if you do everthing manually.

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ORIGINAL: lekseus
But when enemy attacks AI sends bombers without an escort again and again.


The escort setting above has nothing to do with intercepting enemy bombers, that's Fighter intercept, however unlike the escort setting above, these fighter intercepts are alway under AI control.

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ORIGINAL: lekseus
I tried to decrease the Commitment level on Bombers airbases - no effect.


The aviation commitment level has nothing to do with air directives or air ops of any kind. All it does is provide semi-automatic deployment of air groups to a/b which, again I'd do manually. Have look at section 8.4.3. of the unofficial manual for details.




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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/7/2021 10:22:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		It happens during enemy attacks, I don't do anything manually.
AI sends my bombers to support defending forces without fighters at all despite settings in the Air Doctrine.

Q: How to prevent it?

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/8/2021 6:17:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lekseus

It happens during enemy attacks, I don't do anything manually.
AI sends my bombers to support defending forces without fighters at all despite settings in the Air Doctrine.

Q: How to prevent it?


Post a pic of your air directives

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/8/2021 1:06:38 PM   
lekseus

 

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Status: offline 		It says I'm not allowed to post links. I tried to type those directives down, but the forum doesn't even allow me to type numbers.
Can I pm you?

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/9/2021 7:39:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lekseus

It says I'm not allowed to post links. I tried to type those directives down, but the forum doesn't even allow me to type numbers.
Can I pm you?


You can't post links but you can upload jpgs. Not sure why you can't type numbers, that makes no sense.

I thought maybe you had to many escort percentages to high but there're not.
There are a number of things that can prevent groups flying, morale, fat, number of ready a/c, commander, range, distance already flown etc and there's been numerous threads about it.

If you download the unofficial manual and search/index it will show you how to set range. Basically in the commander report under air groups, GR column or directly under a groups report.

Personnal I'd use manual ops, using the AI as little as possible.

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/9/2021 9:29:56 AM   
lekseus

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks. Guys on another website told me its a well known issue and there's no way to get rid of this completely. Just move airbases with bombers further away from the enemy than bases with fighters.

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 6/9/2021 11:17:46 AM   
Chris21wen

 

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Status: offline 		Yes the norm is to have fighter bases closer to the front than bomber but setting range is also important.

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 7/20/2021 7:53:17 AM   
lekseus

 

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Status: offline 		If I want to stop fighters to escort bombers what do I need to do?
I put that number to zero in the Doctrine - no effect.

Manually opening every airbase with fighters and set the commitment level to zero isn't very convenient.

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 7/21/2021 7:47:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		There's a separate directive for escorts

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RE: Why is Air Doctrine ignored? - 7/21/2021 8:12:40 AM   
lekseus

 

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Status: offline 		I know.
My question was zero level derective for them doesn't stop them.

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